Be honest, is there any point in natty lifting?

yes use roids, user. hope you're okay being a testeslet

eat more and train more
now fuck off autist

Every person with a brain would have MEASURED the difference. Track lifts weight cal and protein and then adjust as necessary.

Believe me or not but do ss and gomad. You're clearly to dumb to do basic stuff in fitness and I guarantee you you will gain muscles from that.

Natty Lifting Advocate: You will look better than you do currently, you will feel better AND you will not risk permanently lowered test levels for the rest of your life and severely reduced sperm count jeopardizing your ability to have kids and not feeling like a lethargic depressed asshole.

ROIDS: sick gains, easy gains, lots of energy and libido. But hormones are complicated and there are numerous ways to mess your health up, even die, with roids. Heart issues, blood clots, fucked up hormonal profile on par with an 85 year old.

Even so,1 or 2 basic test cycles are unlikely to mess you up in any meaningful way if you dont go on too long, keep doses moderate and do PCT. Do what you want. Why do you care what thots like?

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Arnie did roids and he's doing fine at 70.

Just pin forever lmao. Modern society has cursed men with lower t levels. Gotta fix that shit yourself.

you chose the most successful bodybuilder of all time, the governator, as your example of a roided bodybuilder. Think about that for a minute. Do you think he is representable in any meaningful way of the average roider?

He injected way more than your average roider, I imagine.

You can still look great while lifting natty.
Not only will you feel great, but you will also live longer.

natty physique is what most people consider aesthetic, and being ripped
>lifting for others lmao
what i like about lifting is that it's the easiest way to get a hardcore workout. i can get away with eating a lot and being "lean" (16-18% bf)