Who's to blame?

What fucking product you vague shit? And what part of NOTHING IS BEING SHIPPED OR PRINTED do you not understand exactly?

>What fucking product you vague shit
I really don't know how to make this more clear, the current standard for writing and art for comics is at an all time low. No one wants to go out of their way to support bad comics.
> And what part of NOTHING IS BEING SHIPPED OR PRINTED do you not understand exactly?
I'm saying if they were making enough money, they would have been able to survive not being in business for 2 weeks

>No one wants to go out of their way to support bad comics.
People do that all the time. Look at Saga for instance

Right now our problem is the big two capitulating to LCS about not releasing comics digitally.

Corona is responsible for the actual collapse of the direct market going on.

Okay so what I've grasped from you is that you're a child with little understanding on how this business works. Quality of content means jack shit under these circumstances. Do you think businesses like these have huge stockpiles of money on reserve? No, even Disney is hurting right now. Business relies on supply and demand, and since comic books are one of many non essential businesses forced to shut down due to COVID-19, they naturally are starting to feel the financial pressure. What kind of underraged idiot are you not to understand this?

seething sjw

>Implying THIS HARD
No I'm merely pointing out OP is an idiot thinking the content is relevant right now.

The corporate cults that inevitably form in unchecked capitalist economies.

Help a brainlet understant something. Why are comics shops suddenly in deep shit? Like 99% of them sell other stuff more profitable than comics. Yugioh, Pokemon, MTG, board games and anime statues. You could deliver this to peoples homes and a 50$ board games is better than 20 bucks in comics. Why the temporary cancelation of weekly comics is such a big issue?

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Marvel has at least attempted a few thing, they slashed the cost for orders last month before Diamond shut off the supply. It's not much but it was at least something. DC has not said a peep, some LCS owners have said that they attempted to pass a few things past AT&T but that every time they were shut down. DC is responding the worst out of all of them, by not responding at all.

Because this a quarantine, meaning states are cracking down on travel and people interacting. Comic shops are reliant on walk-ins and regulars picking up their pull lists. Being shut down means that they need to complete rethink their platform, create online listings/stores, and figure out reasonable shipping prices and contact methods for their customers. This means hiking up prices a wee bit for packaging, and being completely reliant on current store inventory for the time being. Back issues usually sit forever unless a customer is specifically looking for them, as opposed to new issues going out the door each week. They only ever order for the demand, their pull lists. But even if they figure out a new store organization, customer contacts, and shipping, this is still a frivolous expense. Most people are out of work, unable to pay rent, and are likely buying food and other necessities instead

>50$ board games is better than 20 bucks in comics
not really, 1 board game you sell to 5-10 people, where as 1 person would buy 5-10 comics a month. But ya, some stores are trying to do delivery but even then it's a HUGE dampner on stuff. And they will have a hard time restocking even MTG or stuff if they need to.

Because a lot of small businesses are in deep shit and because people aren't spending $50 on board games right now. In fact a lot of places have required them to close because they're non-essential businesses so you couldn't get a board game from them if you wanted anyway.
Comic shops as business have been in life support for a long time now and the mass loss of revenue from coronachan is going to put a lot of them (and other local businesses) in the grave.

China

a lot of the way these stores sell board games and card games is bringing players into the store to play and buy them. Not happening. People aren't getting together to play MTG, Roleplaying nights are on hold unless you play by Skype.

How the fuck is a global pandemic caused by putting lesbians in superhero comics for children

Chinese government for not letting people know what was going on.
Then, the American government for not taking this shit seriously until it had already become a pandemic.

there would be supply if there was a demand, if a business shouldn't be skitting from pay day to pay day.
Comics were already dying before the wuh flu, it just put the nail in the coffin

that's a might fine strawman you built there, never said anything about lesbians.

Everyone knows what that statement is implying because this is fucking Yas Forums. Don't play stupid, it just makes you look like a jackass that doesn't actually want to have a real talk

Only reason this situation exists is because Marvel fucked everything up and killed all other distributors in the 90s. I don't really give a shit about them trying to save the industry as it is now because this status quo has been shit for decades. To be honest I think DC has the best response because they see this rickety ass cobbled together shit boat is sinking and they aren't wasting anytime or effort in trying to keep it floating. Let it die and try something new after that.

how would you want the industry to operate? I assume you don't want LCS cause what you are saying is you want them all to die. If they do then no floppies (I'm fine with that part actually), and then the only places you will get comics are book stores and amazon. Is that what you want?

Really sounds like your paranoid as fuck to be honest. I say the comics are bad, you automatically assume I mean lesbians, are you projecting or something?

OP you're fucking retarded, just shut up already. I can't believe the concept of mandatory shutdown harming a business regardless of comic content is alien to you

Bitch this isn't just a fucking business, it's an entire industry that was already in the midst of dying. Every other niche hobby was able to survive 2 weeks, even fucking table top games, the things that require other people to play with lasted 2 weeks.

All you've done in this thread is demonstrated that you don't know how this fucking industry works. You are a faggot

thanks for not even providing an argument, I'm sure your constant bitching will rally anons to your way of thinking.

Asshole, you willfully ignored everything posted in this thread, and laughably tried to say the reason why the industry was suffering was based on the content of the books. You're a joke. Stay mad

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what? Every industry is saying they are screw (with the exception of Amazon who is still milking every penny). Tons of restaurants are saying they are going under, hobby lobby is fucking over workers saying they will go bankrupt once they are forced to shut down. This is all across the board.

Once again not an argument, if the product was better we wouldn't be in this mess.
A restaurant is not an industry, if the entire food industry was going under your example would work.

Continue to ignore the elephant in the room that is bad comics.

Fuck Diamond, piss on their ashes.

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Big picture? Marvel and DC.
No matter what proclamation any party makes online, publishers, retailers, and Diamond are not "in this together." Their interests do not perfectly align. Retailer's interests stop at their doorstep. While a lot of problems can be attributed to the DM and Diamond, they're both acting in their own interests. It's Marvel and DC's fault for letting the other two parties dictate their business plan and create this co-dependence.

I mean the virus shutting everything down is no ones fault, but it has luckily shined a light on the weaknesses of certain businesses.

So really we should use this opportunity to change how the buisness works to make sure something like this doesn’t happen again

DC for abandoning anthologies decades ago

Safespace and Snowflake.

Yes.
The fans too.

Don't you mean
>Who's hand should I shake?

sjws, feminists and liberals

The pirates.

Piracy is a civic duty. Starve the beast, end corporate "art."

diamond always.

My dream is coming full circle

Who put the chemicals in the food chain?

Is this Spongebob comic crop from?

They should have embraced digital but like the bullshit comixology is pulling (4$ for renting a right to read a pdf online, fuck off amazon).

They should look at how the manga/manwha industry did. The mangaplus app, viz, webtoons...hell this even made the paper sales of manga increase.

The comicbook industry is stuck in the past and don't want to evolve. But it is not the only one, the movie business will surely go full VOD soon and you can say goodbye to movie theaters.

Those plans would only work if they made comics worth buying, no one wants what they're putting out.

>if the produc
How can one user be this dense? It's not about the product right now

Ya those table top games and their product are doing just as bad.
Fuck if they had a good product they could make money off of digital sales, oh wait no one wants to buy their product.

I love how your very correct comment is causing so much butthurt.

There would be no need for overshipping if people wanted their trash in the first place.

>Because its a common thing people bitch about on this board?

It's common, and it causes people to bitch, so maybe it really is a fucking problem???

Holy shit youre a fag

>Okay so what I've grasped from you is that you're a child with little understanding on how this business works.

Like your Big Brain take on all this? Sales figures have been at their lowest in pretty much the history of comics. We live in the Grand Age of Superhero fandom, when kids are seeing the movies and going to shops to read more about their new heroes, only to find Cap is a Nazi/Hydra agent along with all the other dumbfuckery being shoved down readers throats.

Sales have been HEAVILY reliant upon variants and gimmicks, which does not create a healthy market. The fact that the industry is so widely fucked after only a few weeks shows how poorly they were doing with liquidity to begin with.

Seriously, you need to to brush up on a LOT more before you insult someone else's take on the industry, because you are demonstrating a more "child with little understanding" approach with your criticism of OP.

There was a ton of plausible talk about the industry dying soon before Covid was even heard of.

The problem with how manga do it and how comics do it is likely tied to how much of a collector's market comics are. With manga, you aren't supposed to keep the anthology magazines, they're for recycling after reading. Volumes don't have the same collector worth as floppies do, there's no such thing as variants in the manga world. But because of the collector's market (and the LCSs that feed into it), comics are more expensive to produce and are therefore billed at higher than manga are. Changing this requires completely restructuring the industry, likely with lower wages for creators.

>OP Whines about content when the real killer right now is DISTRIBUTION
Dumbasses

oh shit you changed my opinion on this subject with that utterly witty remark, truly you are a high iq individual. So IQ that you don't even need to address anyone else's arguments, you're too smart for such a lowly thing.