How is he not suicidal?
All that knowledge about music theory, chord progressions, etc and still can't write one great song.
How is he not suicidal?
Parker Lewis
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Ayden Howard
Because his talent keeps the lights on
Xavier Jones
wasted trips
man makes good money from youtube
money's all u need
end of story
Xavier Watson
Sungazer slaps tho
Jayden Smith
Why write a great song when you can write muzak for music students and rake in the shekels?
Hudson Turner
none of that guarantees a great song
in my opinion, a great song starts with a great melody (usually vocal)
everything after fills sonic space and/or compliments the melody (chords, percussion, etc)
if you can't write a great melody, you can't write a great song
Aaron Foster
I like that Sungazer track, Drunk.
Jose Phillips
yeah but theory should help you to write pleasing melody?
Jonathan Martin
Why does he need to? Not all musicians are composers. His knowledge helps him communicate with other musicians that compose music and play with said musicians. No one really needs to like whatever he’s composing though, he’s doing it because he likes/enjoys it first.
William Gray
>he
Do you mean, "me", Adam?
Carson Perry
Do you honestly believe that knowing about chord progressions and other theory should make you a good songwriter?
Why? Do you think that historians are also the ones that make history? No. In fact, quite the opposite.
A music theoretician is arguably worse off than a person that just creates out of urge to create. It's also why Jacob Collier's music, while admittedly technically perfect, is ass to listen to.
They get lost in the theoretical, losing touch with the actual human side of it all.
Owen Butler
Cool thread
Lincoln Price
>A music theoretician is arguably worse off than a person that just creates out of urge to create
uh-huh
Nathaniel Gutierrez
Note that I'm not saying that one create art while understanding the theory.
I'm just saying that just knowing the theory is not enough. One requires vision. Your pretty list of composers shows precisely that: they are the pearls in a sea of uninspired contemporaries. Because they had artistic vision, their colleagues didn't.
Adam is one of the latter. Still, he's doing better than any of us in terms of being a professional musician.
Camden Campbell
he's a nice boy
Andrew Adams
thanks for your blog post
Dylan Reyes
No problem, amigo!:)
Jaxon Hall
I agree. And Neely is a jazz composer, he makes fusion jazz music. So does Collier. They both have quite large followings for a genre that niche. They're more successful, musically interesting and relevant than Yas Forums combined will ever be. That's a fact.
Noah Morgan
Jack Young
People who get too invested in theory end up writing music for commercials and shit
Charles Brown
what is this image of wh*te w*men trying to convey
Connor Clark
Not that user, but all of those musicians literally could not have written music or had it performed without training, patronage, being in a position to even receive training, etc. You're selecting from a sample of people whose music would never even have been transmitted if not for theory, so it's really not much of an argument you're making.
Folk music in the past was considered 'low-level' bullshit and wasn't written down in a standardized form, but I'm sure plenty of it was great and could stand up to the quality of much of the work of the composers in your picture.
Don't get me wrong, I love music that's heavily based on theory, but the user your replying to's point still stands.
Zachary Lee
>music that's heavily based on theory
what the fuck does that even mean? theory is descriptive, not prescriptive.
Nathaniel Perez
But that's precisely the problem with a lot of 'theory heavy' composers: they use the theory prescriptively.
Jose Murphy
how do you "use theory" prescriptively exactly? music theory is the study of the practices and possibilities of music; you use knowledge while composing, not theory.
Julian Hughes
But they do. They actively go out of their way to write music that pushes at the boundaries set by the music theory they know (e.g. fucked up time signatures, key changes etc.), rather than pushing at the boundaries of artistic expression. They're thinking within the framework set out by the music theory they already know, rather than thinking in artistic terms.
Kevin Lewis
he making that youtube green my guy
Logan Lopez
>They actively go out of their way to write music that pushes at the boundaries set by the music theory they know (e.g. fucked up time signatures, key changes etc.)
I would hardly call key changes and odd time signatures "pushing the boundaries of music theory," those concepts have been around for literal centuries. Besides that, how do you know they're doing that for that reason, and not just because they like the sound of it?
I really like the sound of 7/8. It sounds cool and I like it, theory be damned.
Levi Baker
no, it doesnt. Its impressive but its just that, all masturbatory bullshit
Justin Campbell
Precisely, in the composing practice theory should be damned. But to these guys, it's not. It's the guidelines that they use.
They're not creating art, what they do is just generating music through the rules they learned. The true artist composes without rules
Jace Ward
murmuure - murmuure
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Grayson White
Not a fucking chance lol. There are people here who I'd listen to for enjoyment in those shill threads. Even that faggot Una Luca oogabooga yah yah yah song. I'd unironically never support Neely or Collier microtonal faggotry.