>You seething retard. Noone had done that before so it was ground-breaking. You have to do something NEW Okay, get this then: The deeper we get into the development of popular music, the LESS NEW THINGS there are possible to invent You literally just proved that boomers had it easier. No one had ever tried something as simple as making edgy amateurish, fast paced rock music with shouty vocals before. It was just SITTING THERE easy as fuck to make. It wasn’t even different that much to 60s rock or something like the stooges and so a lot of it was just rip offs anyway.
These days, everything has already been tried. We got to the party too late. All the good ideas have already been tried. Now, if you want to invent a unique new never before heard genre, you have to do some autistic savant retard shit like invent post-shoegaze industrial jazz metal with IDM influences. Some insane shit like that. And guess what? Then it will just have an incredibly niche audience cause it’s too fucking complex. Making original music got IMPOSSIBLY HARDER because the boomers and Gen X already did ALL of the interesting ideas before we got here.
Landon Morris
>work as roadie for shitty punk bands I can't imagine you working as a roadie, OP. In fact, I can't imagine you having a job at all. People who have succeeded in music got into music because they love music. Nothing you have written in this thread suggests that you love music. What it suggests is that you want a shortcut to success and you're bitter because you think someone has taken that away from you. You can't succeed if you don't try, and that was just as true in the '70s and '80s as it is now.
Parker Wood
this argument could just as easily be applied to the influx of soundcloud retards that made millions shit a lot of these fuckers made more than any punk band did in their lifetime
this is either bait or an actual mongoloid figured out how to use the internet
Henry Howard
>You can't succeed this is just true across the board these days. unless you consider playing music as a hobby as successful that is, which no reasonable person who's being honest would
You are correct about the elimination of possibilities, but you're looking at it all wrong. The Stooges weren't trying to invent "garage rock" or "proto-punk" They just wanted to start a rock band, and they looked up to the MC5, who were just trying to play Rock N Roll, but they cranked their amps. The Ramones weren't trying to invent punk, they just wanted to play rock music, and really like the Stooges, the MC5, and the New York Dolls, who weren't considered any special genre at the time. Just weird crappy rock music. The Ramones happened to be friends with a bunch of weird art-rock bands that were inspired by the VU and Warhol scene. (Being in a local scene is key, local scenes still exist) The Ramones toured everywhere all the time to try to achieve commercial success. A bunch of kids saw them and we're like wow we can do that, but then they did it their own way that came naturally. Just like the Ramones did when trying to play stooges esque rock. The key to making something new or at least unique is to take into account your music influences, but make the art that comes natural to you. Don't ape styles and don't try to make some specific new thing. That's why terms like tryhard and poser exist. Most of those people didn't "make it" every middle aged Joe auto mechanic has like a 50% chance of being in a punk band with his friends in the 80s
Andrew Phillips
>local scenes still exist based out of touch boomer lmao
Ryan Mitchell
Hey, this is Henry Rollins!
I was in a band in the eighties that everybody says they like but they don't actually listen to. Brace yourself, because I'm about to beat you down with my basic bitch political opinions stated with a determined intensity. You won't be able to handle my conventional majority views stated monotonously over a boring hardcore guitar riff. See, I'm a punk rocker, but I'm old now... old and wise! Being older means I'm smarter even though none of my positions have changed since I was an edgy teenager.
I think masculinity is dumb. That's why I make tough guy faces and lift weights and stuff. I'll kick your ass if you like masculinity!
See, I'm a white guy, but I can't STAND white guys. This is a brave, bold statement I shouldn't be making, I might lose friends and social capital for saying it. Sorry if that bursts your bubble, honky, but that's just how it's gonna be.
Homosexuality is natural and normal. Someone has to tell you this, America, and it might as well be me. I can handle the shitstorm that'll follow. I can afford to declare wholehearted support for the revolutionary policies and cultural mores that have been altered, top down, by our elite ruling class. Sodomy feels good and you should try it. Things that feel good are always good, even if it gives them AIDS.
Conformity is like death. It's rigor mortis for your soul and that's why I'm a nonconformist who fully supports every state supported culturual change that has taken place in the last 30 years. I plan on continuing to push the envelope and fight in the safe space the ruling elites have formed for me within their global power structure. They don't stand a chance, cuz guess what? I'm a 53 year old white man. And I'm single, and I'm not a father. I'm living the dream, and when I die I'll leave not a trace. Gone forever. Are you man enough to go extinct? Heh, didn't think so loser. Have fun fighting against your genocide, you fragile weaklings.
I'm not though. There are still localized music scenes that have characteristics that differentiate them from other scenes. The Nuke York scene, Midwest Lumpy Records scene, PNW has a very loose kitchen sink scene of noise/indie/art rock/ wall of sound shit. Washington has it's Tri city scene too. Melbourne has it's own scene. NWOBHC in England. England/Scandinavian joint Post-Punk scene. There's active hardcore punk scenes in every city between NYC and Chicago. The punk in all those cities continues to mutate and change in it's own ways.
Carter Lewis
>These days it’s like we’ve gone back to the 50s or 60s, back to a pre-punk ethos. “Oh, you’re not rich and well connected? You aren’t a unique generational talent either with born great vocal skills? You aren’t a one of a kind master of your instrument? You aren’t 10/10 attractive and marketable? Well GET OUT then you pleb the music business isn’t for you” Nobody ITT wants to admit that this is absolutely true; this bizarrely inexplicable and idiosyncratic tendency toward cultural regressiveness is evident across multiple domains of life in the gradually more and more post-boomer world of today, eg relationships, employment, housing, medical care, etc.
