WHY WAS IT SO EASY BACK THEN? WHAT CHANGED???

>he will go down in history as a SOMEBODY and an IMPORTANT PERSON because of his role in music development, even though he did fucking nothing but scream into a microphone and have autist rage on stage.
you're fucking stupid
go shout into a mic and see how it sounds compared to Rollins
don't be fooled, only certain people can pull it off and Rollins had a very good voice for it, even if I think most of thier songs were shit, his voice was great

>WHY was it so fucking easy? WHY is it no longer that easy?
WHY don't you want to put in the work?

Yeah and it’s fucking impossibly hard to even break into the underground now. Anyone can upload a song to Spotify but unless you have connections or hit an extreme lucky break you’re gonna get sub-1000 plays and be a nobody still.

Black Flag were not fucking nobodies. Rollins was an underground celebrity and was renowned nationwide among alternative music fans for his insane antics. Literally from talentless nobody ice cream store employee to nationwide punk icon in 1 or 2 years. How the fuck can you do anything like that today?

Sure you can still make it if you are a virtuoso but that’s not my fucking point. I’m saying in decades gone by you could be some working class nobody with a plebeian musical knowledge and suddenly be a rockstar in a matter of months. There is NO equivalent today in any genre. Boomers and Gen X all had the fucking golden ticket to rock stardom right in front of them. LITERALLY all they had to do was find some other retards with amateur instrumental skills and they would be able to hit it big.

These days it’s like we’ve gone back to the 50s or 60s, back to a pre-punk ethos. “Oh, you’re not rich and well connected? You aren’t a unique generational talent either with born great vocal skills? You aren’t a one of a kind master of your instrument? You aren’t 10/10 attractive and marketable? Well GET OUT then you pleb the music business isn’t for you”

>Boomers and Gen X all had the fucking golden ticket
Bullshit. Do you know how many thousands upon thousands upon thousands of rock and punk bands there were that went nowhere?
If you want to cry and say you never had a shot instead of taking your shot, that's fine. But don't blame that on muh boomers.
It's zoomers more than anyone that pirate music and stay home playing video games that make it so hard to make a living as a musician.

You seething retard. Noone had done that before so it was ground-breaking. You have to do something NEW. Get it? Also those people lived in squalor and worked hard. Except for a few, most of them do not make a living off of music. Some of the ones who do make a living off of music, run record labels, record artists, produce music. Skills they learned by working hard with what they had, and literally inventing DIY. They also built a huge network of like-minded artists, and bolstered each other's success. Also work. You're exactly the type of idiot that would expect to be in a punk band and not put any work into the band or any work into the scene. You also don't have an ear for the different structures and little intricacies in punk music that make it interesting. You only view it as some pyramid scheme you wish you were in on when it happened.

You know which zoomers are actually going to make it in the music business? Ones that are working on their craft right now instead of whining on Yas Forums that it's all too hard.

>it’s fucking impossibly hard to even break into the underground now
>Anyone can upload a song to Spotify
You have no idea what the underground is. You won't find it on Spotify (or at least not success from it). Stop trying.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Rollins
>Henry Lawrence Garfield (born February 13, 1961), better known as Henry Rollins
>Early life
Rollins was born Henry Lawrence Garfield in Washington, D.C. on February 13, 1961, the only child of Iris and Paul Garfield.[5][6][7][8] His father was of Jewish descent.
>As a child and teenager, Rollins was sexually assaulted,[13]

lmao this is all you need to know about henry "rollins" right here

>be henry rollins
>be total fucking nobody in washington dc
>college dropout
>work at a fucking ice cream store
>work as roadie for shitty punk bands
>shitty punk bands start asking him to sing
>he knows no instruments and has no musical training
>cant sing, just screams and acts insane on stage
>starts getting notorious for being a rageful autist who beats people up at gigs
>fucking sing for bad brains
>still work at ice cream store
>black flag (his favorite band) ask him to be singer because they know of his autist rage reputation
>he auditions
>he gets it
>become bitter asshole whom nobody likes or takes seriously, and be considered the worst lead singer of a band which didn't record any LP's before you
>off of precisely zero talent

>I can't get on stage with zero rapping experience and start just dropping shitty rhymes and have people love me
there definitely are semi-big to decently-big rappers like this. jumex, lil xan, yung lean

>You seething retard. Noone had done that before so it was ground-breaking. You have to do something NEW
Okay, get this then:
The deeper we get into the development of popular music, the LESS NEW THINGS there are possible to invent
You literally just proved that boomers had it easier. No one had ever tried something as simple as making edgy amateurish, fast paced rock music with shouty vocals before. It was just SITTING THERE easy as fuck to make. It wasn’t even different that much to 60s rock or something like the stooges and so a lot of it was just rip offs anyway.

These days, everything has already been tried. We got to the party too late. All the good ideas have already been tried. Now, if you want to invent a unique new never before heard genre, you have to do some autistic savant retard shit like invent post-shoegaze industrial jazz metal with IDM influences. Some insane shit like that. And guess what? Then it will just have an incredibly niche audience cause it’s too fucking complex. Making original music got IMPOSSIBLY HARDER because the boomers and Gen X already did ALL of the interesting ideas before we got here.

>work as roadie for shitty punk bands
I can't imagine you working as a roadie, OP. In fact, I can't imagine you having a job at all.
People who have succeeded in music got into music because they love music. Nothing you have written in this thread suggests that you love music. What it suggests is that you want a shortcut to success and you're bitter because you think someone has taken that away from you.
You can't succeed if you don't try, and that was just as true in the '70s and '80s as it is now.

this argument could just as easily be applied to the influx of soundcloud retards that made millions
shit a lot of these fuckers made more than any punk band did in their lifetime

this is either bait or an actual mongoloid figured out how to use the internet

>You can't succeed
this is just true across the board these days. unless you consider playing music as a hobby as successful that is, which no reasonable person who's being honest would

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You are correct about the elimination of possibilities, but you're looking at it all wrong. The Stooges weren't trying to invent "garage rock" or "proto-punk" They just wanted to start a rock band, and they looked up to the MC5, who were just trying to play Rock N Roll, but they cranked their amps. The Ramones weren't trying to invent punk, they just wanted to play rock music, and really like the Stooges, the MC5, and the New York Dolls, who weren't considered any special genre at the time. Just weird crappy rock music. The Ramones happened to be friends with a bunch of weird art-rock bands that were inspired by the VU and Warhol scene. (Being in a local scene is key, local scenes still exist) The Ramones toured everywhere all the time to try to achieve commercial success. A bunch of kids saw them and we're like wow we can do that, but then they did it their own way that came naturally. Just like the Ramones did when trying to play stooges esque rock.
The key to making something new or at least unique is to take into account your music influences, but make the art that comes natural to you. Don't ape styles and don't try to make some specific new thing. That's why terms like tryhard and poser exist. Most of those people didn't "make it" every middle aged Joe auto mechanic has like a 50% chance of being in a punk band with his friends in the 80s

>local scenes still exist
based out of touch boomer lmao

Hey, this is Henry Rollins!

I was in a band in the eighties that everybody says they like but they don't actually listen to. Brace yourself, because I'm about to beat you down with my basic bitch political opinions stated with a determined intensity. You won't be able to handle my conventional majority views stated monotonously over a boring hardcore guitar riff. See, I'm a punk rocker, but I'm old now... old and wise! Being older means I'm smarter even though none of my positions have changed since I was an edgy teenager.

I think masculinity is dumb. That's why I make tough guy faces and lift weights and stuff. I'll kick your ass if you like masculinity!

See, I'm a white guy, but I can't STAND white guys. This is a brave, bold statement I shouldn't be making, I might lose friends and social capital for saying it. Sorry if that bursts your bubble, honky, but that's just how it's gonna be.

Homosexuality is natural and normal. Someone has to tell you this, America, and it might as well be me. I can handle the shitstorm that'll follow. I can afford to declare wholehearted support for the revolutionary policies and cultural mores that have been altered, top down, by our elite ruling class. Sodomy feels good and you should try it. Things that feel good are always good, even if it gives them AIDS.

Conformity is like death. It's rigor mortis for your soul and that's why I'm a nonconformist who fully supports every state supported culturual change that has taken place in the last 30 years. I plan on continuing to push the envelope and fight in the safe space the ruling elites have formed for me within their global power structure. They don't stand a chance, cuz guess what? I'm a 53 year old white man. And I'm single, and I'm not a father. I'm living the dream, and when I die I'll leave not a trace. Gone forever. Are you man enough to go extinct? Heh, didn't think so loser. Have fun fighting against your genocide, you fragile weaklings.

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I'm not though. There are still localized music scenes that have characteristics that differentiate them from other scenes. The Nuke York scene, Midwest Lumpy Records scene, PNW has a very loose kitchen sink scene of noise/indie/art rock/ wall of sound shit. Washington has it's Tri city scene too. Melbourne has it's own scene. NWOBHC in England. England/Scandinavian joint Post-Punk scene. There's active hardcore punk scenes in every city between NYC and Chicago. The punk in all those cities continues to mutate and change in it's own ways.

>These days it’s like we’ve gone back to the 50s or 60s, back to a pre-punk ethos. “Oh, you’re not rich and well connected? You aren’t a unique generational talent either with born great vocal skills? You aren’t a one of a kind master of your instrument? You aren’t 10/10 attractive and marketable? Well GET OUT then you pleb the music business isn’t for you”
Nobody ITT wants to admit that this is absolutely true; this bizarrely inexplicable and idiosyncratic tendency toward cultural regressiveness is evident across multiple domains of life in the gradually more and more post-boomer world of today, eg relationships, employment, housing, medical care, etc.

nothing has changed

Sauce?

>The Nuke York scene
lmao stopped reading right there holy shit

>No it isn't you still need to have skill and be considered to some degree a good rapper
>I can't get on stage with zero rapping experience and start just dropping shitty rhymes and have people love me
Lil Pump is right there

Nah. What's changed is rap has been forced as legitimate by internet critics and pushed by jews and so now it is seen as such. Rock didn't die, it was killed off by jews. Make no sense.

1.Nothing wrong with working at an ice cream store. It's an honest way to make a living. You also forgot to mention he worked along side Ian McKay at said ice cream store. (They were also roommates)

2. He also played bass in S.O.A. when he was still going by Henry Garfield.

3. He got his gig with Black Flag after just spontaneously jumping up onstage with them at a show in New York and sang Clocked In. Greg Ginn was so impressed with him they asked him to be the new singer the very next day.

4. The bass is an easy instrument to pick up and learn. No musical training required.

5. >Can't sing, just screams and acts insane onstage
Jealous much?

6. If he ever beat anybody up, it was purely self defense. Were you at any of Black Flag's shows when he joined. I was, and I saw that people started with him first. He NEVER drew first blood, but he wouldn't back down from a fight, either.

7. He was never the singer for Bad Brains. He did sing Kick Out the Jams (MC5) with The Bad Brains as his back up band for a movie soundtrack, but that was it.

8.please read point #3 concerning his joining Black Flag. I'm not going to re-iterate.

9. He was in the right place at the right time, and got lucky

10. Again I ask, jealous much?

Fuck the haters! Henry Rollins is my hero!

>There are still localized music scenes that have characteristics that differentiate them from other scenes.

Only problem is the main characteristic of all those "scenes" is that they're all almost exclusively made up of trust funders who flew in from flyover county and have absolutely nothing interesting to say. Might as well be a country club for lawyer's and doctor's kids if we're being honest.

But now trannies and women ensured no white man with a guitar will ever make it. They police underground indie rock. That's reality.

Whatever bud. There's a bunch of bands in New York that use that as a hashtag and play shows together. What's a better way to refer to it? The hot dog monger scene?

>There's a bunch of bands in New York that use that as a hashtag and play shows together
and they're all shit lmao