*changes music forever*

*derived from african instruments*

wow cultures were influenced by other cultures, incredible

There’s definitely some swing in there

absolutely, but swing probably isnt the only element that makes ragtime ragtime
and definitely not the only element that makes jazz jazz

But certainly foundational

yeah, and im sure that beethoven piece was very influential
what im arguing is just that it probably shouldnt be called ragtime, and that it definitely shouldnt be called jazz

Agreed.

>Africa
>Piano

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His teacher was a music professor from Germany who introduced him to a lot of classical works, I still think Joplin was fantastic and original but he didnt create something out of a vacuum, classical music doesn't have this hang up about pretending you have no influnces like American music does.
>Beethoven just went total madman and went 100+ years ahead of his time
Sonata no 32 is just a mad work so modern for the time youtu.be/YE2iyBRmA_g

Only instrument a nigger contributed to the world was blowing into an empty beer bottle