/jazz/ - Yes jazz is dead so leave us alone edition

Discuss jazz without asking stupid questions.

What have you been listening to lately? What'd you think of it?

Any records you're enjoying this year?

What's the most under appreciated Impulse! record? (pic is great but unrelated)

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Last I've heard was Peter Brotzmann & Black Bombain album.

The dude makes the sax scream.

I'll now give this album a listen.

I usually get this with Coltrane:
1) First era (Blue trane etc.) is boring
2) Giant steps and A love Supreme are GOAT
3) Ascenscion and Om and beyond is basically incomprehensible for me.

Is there a midpoint between 2 and 3 with which to approach them?

I donno if scream is the word I'd use. Pharoah Sanders was a screamer. Brotzman is closer to someone trying really hard to clear a throat full of phlegm.

I was specifically referring to these first minutes.
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Recs on Pharaoh? I haven't delved deep.

>Is there a midpoint between 2 and 3 with which to approach them?
In a lot of ways the Dolphy ensemble was a little like that, though more just approximately in the same territory as ALS. More free wheeling than My Favourite Things but more controlled than Meditations or Ascension. Check out the Live at the Vanguard album and if you really like it, there's a compilation with all the dates the band played there.

Yeah I see what you mean, this has a lot of treble to it that is sometimes missing in Brotzmann's playing. It's still got the unmistakably filthy rattle to it tho.
>Pharoah Sanders
His best work is under Coltrane's name imo. I'm sure there's plenty of people who'll tell you different but I think his work was often style over substance. I like to hear him with other people who are really talented musicians as on Meditations. He doesn't have enough solo time to become boring and his simplistic high pitch wailing contrasts nicely with Coltrane's really dense motivic soloing. Coltrane also makes better artistic decisions as a leader.
Summun Bukmun Umyun is probs my favourite of his as a leader, mostly because he just has some class sidemen with him.
Karma, Thembi and Black Unity are also fine, but often patchy or unjustifiably long winded.

offtopic jazzpleb here just hearing black saint for the first time. what a miraculous sound

welcome friend. what did you like the most of it?

Picked this up on vinyl recently and the guy selling it to me said he thought it was very weird. It's dissonant at times for sure and there's some pretty busy textures and some extended technique but in the grand scheme of things... I've heard a lot worse. Even from Mingus.