Theoryfags make shit music because they don’t care about making good sounding music...

Theoryfags make shit music because they don’t care about making good sounding music. They care about making music that is “impressive”

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Impressive music sounds good, fight me.

They're just tools my man.

They are but whose music do you find more interesting? Adam Neely's or David Bruce's? They're both trained composers, but Bruce has a unique style that interests me more imo. Sometimes, it gets kinda derpy, but it's not as bland as Neely's work: youtu.be/hV_1FGpv-F4

Think before you speak
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Theory can be used to compose, but I think it's more beneficial as a tool for analysis. It's cool to use theory to dissect and figure out why things sound so good.

I mean, with Bach, his music is so impressive from a theory standpoint, that it surpasses most of his peers (I find most Baroque music other than him and Vivaldi to be boring). He's one of many exceptions.

user, all of pop is derived from bach
Whether they know it or not, your favourite soul artists are just doing their own rendition of a bach keyboard
Theory is inescapable

This is also my perspective. I rarely use theory to compose. Sure, I might set a key signature, but more as a reference than a set key, and may incorporate some twelve-tone stuff for heavy/scary parts (thanks Van der Graaf Generator), but besides that, I just choose the notes that sound the best. I use theory to more analyze what I did afterwards.

I thought modern pop was derived from the blues and Romantic (period) song (lied) forms, but if you wanna go that far, you could make the case for it.