This shit is so easy to debunk it's embarrassing

This shit is so easy to debunk it's embarrassing
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go ahead, debunk

There's nothing to debunk because he hasn't said we shouldn't call a malevolent god 'god' only begs the question of if that is truly godhood.
I don't think omnipotence was ever a precondition for god, only being the 'primary mover' - pure actuality with no potentiality

>is god willing to prevent evil but not able to
He is also able and willing to give humans free will. Evil is not from God.

Isaiah 45:7

>This shit is so easy to debunk it's embarrassing
The lord works in mysterious ways.
There, that debunked it.
Oh wait you want something more pseudo intellectual?
God can prevent it and is willing to prevent it but why should god prevent it? He can do anything he wants to do and it is always for a reason, a bit like a robot with obscure programming that nobody can figure out.

>worshiping a non omnipotent, evil, child minded being

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>Atheists
>worshipping

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>He thinks God is a being
Bruh

Can someone actually definitively define what 'god' is? Because it seems like there's a lot of wriggle room about debating the existence of god in the bible, firstly from pedantic hermenutical and exegetic issues of interpretation of what was really meant. but then there's always some smart ass who is like
>but you believe that there is something, right user?
How can you answer that unless they actually explain what that 'something' is?

>exegetic issues of interpretation of what was really meant
That's actually an inherent problem. Did God fail to communicate clearly? God isn't supposed to fail.
>God communicated the message but the pen was held by fallible men
Did God fail to find/create an adequate scribe? God isn't supposed to fail.

Don't put the cart before the horse. I asked what is the definition of god? How do I know the failure to communicate is an issue if I don't know the nature of the supposed god which the standard of communication and immunity of his message to mere mortals is indeed some kind of indicator of godhood or if it is compatible unless I have a clear definition of what god is?
You can't make that assumption without defining just what the hell you're talking about.

If god is kind why he gave us niggers

So we know just how generous he was to us by showing us what he could have done?

Bro. You're confused.
> God needs people to write stuff.
> God can't make people do stuff.
> God made ALL people, but can't make people anymore.
> God made a perfect world, but tolerates imperfection for 'fun' and revenge against his toy people.
> Shut up and suck the priest's holiness already.

This is some retarded shit.

Because God is a nigger, son.

This is easy to debunk. Through the hebrew translation it does not always translate to moral evil

Yes I am confused because you haven't told me who this 'god' is first.
This is your argument at the moment
>Dude it can't be Pierre, this guy is allergic eggs. And if he's allergic to eggs then he can't enjoy omelettes, and omelettes are delicious. Pierre only likes delicious stuff, therefore this guy is not Pierre.
I don't even know who the fuck is Pierre, now you're trying to assure me that delicious omelettes are essential to his PIerre-ness?
That's what you're doing.

It always sounds like religous people are blind parents defending their shitty brat.
>Give cancer to kids
But he means well
>Poverty, aids, starvation
But he wants to teach us to be strong

Here's the rest of OPs pic

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There may be a god but I doubt he's particularly interested in humanity or earth. Just another planet out of billions with life forms run amok.

OP makes claim, produces no supporting statements.

OP is so retarded he should hang himself from nearest pole.

After running in circles over this, you will eventually come to the conclusion that there are 2 possibilities:

1 -- There is no god; or,
2 -- The god that exists is actually malevolent

Choose one.

Who or what is the agent referred to as god in this though?

That's not necessarily accurate. A third might be

3 - Malevolence doesn't actually matter in the context of the infinite. Or isn't as bad as human beings frame it to be.

After all, in the garden of eden story, it was said that the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil would make Eve like God, for having the knowledge. Because God had that knowledge. And having that knowledge made Adam and Eve self-aware, and shameful, and capable of evil. Just by having the knowledge of it, you develop the capacity for it, because young children and animals don't really understand evil, but they are surely capable of ignorant cruelty. It's when you willfully engage in evil that it becomes malevolence. So to be like God is to at least be CAPABLE of malevolence, but the frame of goodness is to generally abstain from it. Like a proper adult abstains from malevolence, even though they have every opportunity to interface with it.

But God made the fruit, and made it available for all that he forbade his children from eating it (because I'm sure God is completely unaware of the proclivity for human beings to do exactly the thing that they're told not to do), so it could be entirely possible that God MEANT for his children to become aware of good and evil, and become capable of malevolence. Because malevolence is a tool, and for all that it causes pain and suffering, you do not become a God by limiting yourself or avoiding pain.

How do I know if I'm an atheist when I can't describe the god that I'm suppose to assert a definitive position of belief or dismissal about?

Yeah, omni-benevolent doesn't necessarily preclude pain and suffering, or protection from evil. Because benevolence is to nurture and promote growth, not to be a caretaker. Allowing bad things to happen isn't necessarily malevolent unless the suffering is pointless, or for the amusement of God. If the suffering promotes growth, like how disciplining children promotes growth, than evil the infliction of pain and suffering can be a benevolent action.

I am god ama and quit the fanfiction

What's Satan really like?
What really happened to DB Cooper?
What do I have to do to be really really rich?

But, if he is not able to solve the paradox and is not able to give human free will and get rid of evil, then he is not almighty.

Satan isn't an entity. Satan is a personification of the evil within you, and the temptation to listen to it.

He's dead.

You are really rich. You just want to be richer than your neighbors. But no amount of money will ever make your life free from pain. Money isn't the point.

If God is all knowing then he knows what will happen in the future. If he knows what will happen in the future, free will does not exist. If he doesn't know what will happen in the future he is not all knowing.

If god is the creator of all things and has the sight of future than there is no free will, since he already know what's going to happen, he created you in a certain situation with certain parents and certain dependencies, passions and abilities, therefore he did create evil, it came from his own creation with the knowledge it will behave this way and as the creator he had the ability to stop, change or just not giving life to certain individuals yet he chose not to - and so Epicurus still stand strong

God is all knowing like your parents were all knowing. You thought you were so sneaky as a kid, sneakily watching porn in the dead of night. But your parents were 100% aware of it. In your teenage years, they had a pretty solid awareness of when you were cranking one out, and left you alone and didn't bring it up as a courtesy so you wouldn't feel ashamed.

Satan is fake you made him up what kind a question is this even
isnt even his real name lmao he's dead as a kind
if you want to be real rich you gotta post a picture of your dick online (just kidding cant get rich as you are)
this dude is satan lole

For a God to have children, it's reasonable to presume that the children will grow to become like their parent, and be something like Gods themselves. If you want your children to be like you (or better, as is the appropriate position for any truly good parent), then you must challenge them, and discipline them to keep them on the right path, and give them every tool and opportunity to expand themselves. Including the capacity for evil.

Those who live by the sword will die by the sword. But that's no excuse to not HAVE a sword. Have a sword, but keep it sheathed unless you truly need it. Be capable of evil and cruelty, but wield it only when truly necessary. That is to be Good. That is to be like God.

>You are really rich. You just want to be richer than your neighbors. But no amount of money will ever make your life free from pain. Money isn't the point.
Okay then maybe I should have asked, how can I get for free the items and the services that will allow me to reach my personal existential fulfillment, that is without the need for exchange of money. Such as travel to certain culturally significant places on the other side of the world, faster and better computer equipment, and the ability to arrange and marshal permits and on-the-ground contacts with people around the world.?
Also how specifically did DB cooper die?