Okay Yas Forums i need your help now more than ever...

You are a clown. Within two posts, you came off like a tremendous insecure socially retarded failure. If you think, for one minute, a girl that looks like that doesn't have any experience with talking to guys, you're orders of magnitude dumber than the most retarded thing you've said here. AND, if that pic you posted of the brother is true, you better think really hard about trying to wedge yourself between her and the family. I'm really thinking this is a troll, but if it's not, that guy is about the size of Cain Valesquez. You might want to re-think your strategy on this, because this whole "separating them from the family" thing is absurd, and probably really dangerous.

OP... find you a crush that doesnt have a jaw that threatens to bite your skull into pieces

it's not at all dangerous if done the right way. i don't even have to make her move away from the family, but the family from her, you see? if they start finding out bad things about her since they are very strict church going types which i guess albanians are not really sure, then i can force a wedge between them. they won't know it's me weaving the tapestries of their fates but weave i shall until i knit myself a comfortable life with my little flower.

Don't do the sign thing. Um . . .ask if she has a boyfriend and then go on a date? Social distancing though if you work anywhere that gets Fed money then she would be required in the workplace to say no . . . Guess that only leaves stalking her a running into her at the grocery store. Good luck!

Oh yeah, I see.

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Kidnap her. It's the only way.

You seem like a person that tries to over plan and have contingencies for situations. When it comes to dating, chill the fuck out, relax, just be yourself. Have genuine conversation, and if she's interested in you then she'll let you know with body language like always smiling around you or lightly touching your arm or shoulder. If you get these signs then you can ask her on a date. Don't worry about her family approval, relationships are between individuals not groups. If she likes you then her family won't matter, just be yourself around them too, know that you can't please everyone in life and some people are bound to have negative opinions about you. Realize it is a possibility and don't try to force anything. Just keep doing you, and eventually someone perfect for you will enter your life whether it's this girl or someone else.

You are definitely inside the friend zone. I fucking guarantee it. Your goose is cooked on this one. Move on.

How did you guess he was bad at picking up cues?

jinx'd

there is no such thing as the friend zone. it's a hunt, you don't hunt friends. she's also twerked at me before on break at work so i'm sure she will like my sign idea if you're the one who said not to do it. i'm getting tired though, i could be wrong. either way the friend zone is a myth for fact.