Countries worst prepared for a pandemic happen to handle the pandemic the best

The joke is that both US and UK are in full panic mode and at the top of the worst countries hit

Poor people are lucky to be given rights.
If they dislike it so much, they should just stop being poor

>if you get symptoms you need a hospital to treat you
>this has nothing to do with the health care system though
what are you gonna do, visit a shaman?

>US and UK are in full panic mode and at the top of the worst countries hit
That's a funny way to spell Italy and Spain.

You being a poor faggot has nothing to do with the quality of care in the US. We're the only country that requires all of our doctors to specialize. Whenever a socialist faggot whines about healthcare in the US, it's because they want it to be free

The NHS used to be good 15 years ago, I don't think I've ever seen someone defending USA's health care system, however.

This. Our country is mostly empty land with a few over populated urban centers. Rural communities and states are largely unaffected right now whereas the urban centers are practically ground zero

>socialized medicine

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You are redonculus, pandemic readiness isn't "if you can cure viruses". It's about tactic responses in place, stocks of protective equipement and so on. It's about governement maangement, not hospitals.

Also, no, you don't need a hospital if you get symptoms, there's no cure, they literally just have you lay there and wait to see if you die or not.

The only ones who hate it are poorfaggots honestly and that's because they don't want to pay for their own healthcare like a proper adult because that iPhone is much more important

>USA
Most dead and infection maybe after China

>europoor realizes his system is a scam
Kek, imagine giving money to the government

Nigga US beat those countries a couple days ago

I don't believe for a second that favela monkies and other third world hell holes aren't in worse shape, they just aren't reporting it because they are third world hell holes.

Wirklich?

The only two countries bigger than the USA can't be trusted to give accurate numbers so it is no surprise that we have the most cases.

okay zhang

>A country with more people is going to have more dead and infected

You don't say.....

More like social experiments on the subhuman population.
Uneducated underage spamming "immune" and "immunity" and showing their low iq.
This whole thing with the self isolation is so terribly done. Stupid people taking advantage of even dumber sheep.

Whoa are you telling me that the country with 3x as many people has more people? Clearly you have a degree or something.

In a pandemic you really aren't supposed to visit a hospital unless what you have is life threatening because otherwise you would overload the system and kill the people who need more care.

>it's not true
>yes it is
>w-well it doesn't count you stoopid!

Get fukt non-anglos. South Korea is a bro though. And Thailand gives us ladyboys to fuck, so they chill too.

Holy fuck you idiot, the point is that you're pointing out that a country that has far more people in it than most has more infections than others. No fucking shit a country with more people will have more infected

HOW DOES AMERICA DO IT?

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worst country hit doesn't mean the country with the most people that is actually reporting accurately you fucking buffoon. It's okay, I know statistics and percentages are really hard for low IQ individuals.

AHHHHHHHHHH i'm still healthy right

>more cases
>less deaths

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>Italy
>11k deaths of 101k infected
>nearly 11% mortality rate

>Spain
>7k deaths of 85k infected
>~8% mortality rate

>UK
>1.4k deaths out of 22k infected
>~6.3% mortality rate.

>US
>2k deaths of 140k
>~1.5% mortality rate

I'm neither poor nor in the US, nigger. your medical system is absolutely broken though. your doctors are busy scamming the rich into getting operations they don't need. great examples for this are spine fusing (0% effectiveness, literally counterproductive, every patient that gets it ends up getting worse and eventually getting an entirely stiff back while paying out the ass for it) and stomach reduction (every patient just drinks soda to stay fat or become fat again any way). if I was an American I'd have any important medical procedure done in a different country by a doctor who is used to treating sick people with legitimate producedures. I wouldn't want a glorified plastic surgeon anywhere near my vital organs.

Honestly reporting infection numbers makes a world of difference Zhang.

NEED FOR SPEED

If thats the case then why do all the rich europoors go to America for operations especially those that are for life saving procedures

If the government kills infected people than the virus didn't :^)

>57 cases per million people
Yes this is believable

>my country is 3rd place
I'm honestly surprised, although it probably helps that shops and workplaces either just outright locked or have heavy regulation even though washing your hands shouldn't be a regulation but COMMON FUCKING SENSE at this point, and people are just not going outside at all except for getting essential goods like food. I'm still going to dodge cities like the goddamn plague though, because those places are always are infested with all kinds of shit.

>Canada
>Everyone stays inside anyways
>Still have everyone stuffed into a handful of cities
Truly a model for the world.

Sweden has literally taken zero precautions to combat the spread of the virus. Literally nothing, not even an official statement advising to not gather in crowds.

>infection and death rate actually relatively low compared to most on list despite being one of the first nations the virus spread to

Makes you think, huh?

this, its the same reason why Africa has been barely affected by Corona
No one seriously goes between places in africa aside from humanitarian aid workers and the occasional rich people who want to see a wild lion or shit like that unlike countries like america and UK which has people traveling all over the place both in and out of the country

Because most of our population lives in over crowded cities

US health care is actually pretty damn good. Its just so expensive no one can afford it.

Did you seriously fucking compare plastic surgery with actual medical care and pretend you were making a point?

USA has a bretty good deaths/capita. The only countries doing better are Turkey (fucking liars), China (giga liars), Germany Canada and Korea. We are winning boys.

woah

cases are not a viable or real metric in situations like this
looking at cases/test done is a real metric as it shows saturation rate

It's not expensive, most of you fags just rather buy frivolous shit than buy health insurance

They know it's a scam

Its cuz Sweden is too damn cold for anything to survive there

neither of the procedures I mentioned count as plastic surgery. both are used in response to real physical problems patients complain about and neither solves the respective problem but because it requires surgery and likely follow-up surgery in the future american doctors scam their patients into these procedures instead of actually helping them.

If Chinks are lying, then how can they keep selling the US and others medical goods and ventilators?
reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-carmakers-tesla/tesla-ceo-says-bought-ventilators-in-china-for-u-s-idUSKBN21B19Q

The guy is partially full of shit. We have banned crowds of more than 50 and there has been general information to avoid gatherings.
However they came in late as fuck because our department of health wants to go their own special snowflake way regarding this virus and doesn't want to shut shit down in the same vein as Europe is doing.
They are pretty much betting on this method being the least disastrous in the long run but well, we'll see.

>one of the first nations the virus spread to
before America hit the 1k mark most of the other countries on the list already were at much higher confirmed cases.

>people actually still believe this

Nigger two weeks on a respirator will cost you at least 200k. Health insurance will only cover 80 percent, that's still a lot of fucking money for the average American.

because the chinese government doesn't care about human life. Did you already forget that time they killed literally millions of people?

because most of it is broken

These stats ignored the fact those countries are led by retards

businessinsider.com/coroanvirus-holland-recalls-over-half-a-million-masks-imported-from-china-2020-3

>ignores the out of pocket maximum
Way to prove you would rather buy frivolous shit than research health insurance.

>some bottles with oxygen cost more than a top class 5 star hotel
Sasha USA

I bet you did your (((investigation)))

>pretending U.S. is on meltdown
>only nog-nests are having major issues
>tfw 2 months vacation

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>wageslaves get put into more debt that they'll never get out of
ok

WESTERN CIVILISATION IN THE GRAVE TONIGHT
EVERYBODY GONNA HAVE A GOOD TIME

USA is gonna win, gg no re

>WESTERN CIV IS IN THE GRAVE TONIGHT
>EVERYBODY GONNA HAVE A GOOD TIME

there, now it actually works.

The US? Sure.
The UK? England can eat shit, but nah.

The medical debts are going to fuck the US citizens really hard

Just go bankrupt bro.

No, there's just been no legal order backing up the social distancing and home quarantine orders. The swedes are doing the same as everyone else but just without the force of law behind it

REALLY MAKES YOU THINK, HUH

I'm always amazed at how many exceptionally rich people post on Yas Forums

No doctor fucking reccomends any of that shit you just mentioned you faggot. You have to go see a specialist for those things and that requires you to actually go out of your way and seek them. Stop speaking on things you know nothing about

nice, the great equalizer. i see this as a positive.

western journalism is literally just propaganda and self wank with no basis in reality

retarded white boomers literally think if they say something it becomes the truth

I mean you either pay 60 dollars per game or 1200 on a computer. It's a fucking expensive hobby.

You don't have to be rich to have insurance. Just not a lazy faggot

It's actually one of the least expensive hobbies cost/time wise

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>he values things based on cost/time

>insurance pays for everything
you have to be well off to have insurance this good if it even exists. insurance only pays so much. don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

If you're going to spout lies, at least know what you're talking about. Out of pocket for most insurance policies never goes higher than $1000, if that. My deductble is $150

>ignores the out of pocket maximum again
Quit pretending you know what you are talking about

I spent 900 on my build that lasted 4 years and never buy shit full price.

when the discussion is about expenses, yeah. pass reading comp 101 before posting namefag

The source claims that estimates are up to 600 000, out of 1,3 million. Which is still high, but not confirmed, at least not in the article that the BI is citing.

For the price of just a gaming computer, you could buy a pretty nice instrument. And that doesn't take into account the cost of games.

You've clearly never had insurance or never even looked up policies so you can attempt to lie better. A fucking $200 policy will cover almost everything these days and deductibles are rarely past $500 and that's just insurance. HSA have no deductibles at all. Jesus fuck you lefties can't even shill your autism properly these days

My out of pocket was 10k when I had United. It was still like 6k when I had Cigna. Eat dick.

I take it you're too young to actually have you're own insurance.

My year maximum I would have to pay is $2k a year, but my premium is only about $65 a month.

>He spends 2400 dollars a year to subsidize Jewish medical costs
Do Americans really?

>what is per capita
It's no surprise the US has the most cases. China is lying, Brazil doesn't test, indonesia doesn't test and India is only starting testing.

>he spends 2400 for ahmed's 6th child
>oops don't forget benefits

>It's a fucking expensive hobby.
Only an absolute weapons-grade poorfag would describe it this way. I don't even pirate and it's like 1% of my yearly expense, if that. With pirating it's literally free except the cost of the hardware and the electricity / internet connection.

Eat a dick lying faggot, not even Blue Cross Blue shield which is one of the most expensive in the country has a 10k or 6k deductible

How much of your taxes go to healthcare?

Even in my area, which is a suburb/rural area right outside of a mid-sized city, the damage has been minimal (while still on lockdown and such). As in the flu and other shit is still far and away more deadly. We're actually improving right now. My friend in an even more rural area has 1 confirmed case and I bet it won't get higher than 10.

Honestly if covid19 was more lethal there would have been a much greater response. Because it's not so bad a lot of governments prioritized the economy over all else and took a lax position on the virus. Eventually locking down when they ran out of options.

I take it you're a faggot living in his parents basement and wants to pretend he actually knows what he's talking about while still on mommy and daddy's plan

My city has 600 cases alone kek

Still haven't met anyone with the disease, I think. I went to the super market the other day, I might have it already.

>implying that neet pays taxes

irrelevant to the point being people pay money for health care even with insurance, parrot. if you think the average retard on this Korean hooker board (you) can pay 10k for surgery then try living outside of your mom's mansion that she got from whoring to her boss.
I have insurance and an HSA as I'm actually employed unlike pol larpers such as yourself, covers about $2000 -- not enough for any major medical procedure. yes, I get a cough and a virus that's most likely covered in full but that's besides the original point, which was the implication that insurance = you don't pay for any health care. you're welcome to keep posting but just so you know, anyone with half a brain cell knows you're full of shit. top it all off that different doctors can charge different amounts for procedures (see: appendectomy) and you have a recipe for abuse and debt.

>Spend $2400 a year or get taxed $5000 a year for shittier care

Tough choice

They lack a lot of hopitals beds, A LOT

>muh NHS

Britbongs sure are weird. They're so proud of the last bit of social good left in their shitty classs society and even that's comparatively average at best.

>almost
kek

By not lying about the numbers and having a higher population?

>I have insurance and an HSA

And you've already crashed and burned in your lie

>mutts
>not lying
The cope is real.

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Sure beats waiting five months in the queue then get told to wait some more

>Sweden
U must be joking HAHAHAHA.
Ofcourse they´re on the list, since they stopped doing checkups on anyone with corona symptoms!

Please, we're probably the only country thats still telling the truth about the cases.
nypost.com/2020/03/19/coronavirus-in-italy-health-care-workers-stop-counting-bodies/

are you done bro? you can have both together. this board is 18+

You claimed insurance only pays for so much which is why I pointed out the out of pocket maximum exists. You can stop pulling your random numbers out of your ass btw like the $10k. If you don't factor how much you are able to foot, then it's your fault for not doing the research and buying worthless insurance.

Do americans really need to cope so hard to believe they are doing better than china? You realize even if they lied about their numbers they still are a totalitarian state that gives zero fucks about human rights and pulled the most radical shit to contain the virus. Meanwhile americans did fucking nothing at all.

And there's reports that burgers are hiding their death toll. Not like burgers have never lied in the past, so of course they're telling the truth this time. lol

>out of pocket maximum
nice I love being in debt that's great. the exact numbers don't matter, the fact is you're paying for it either way and oftentimes it's a large chunk of your wagie paycheck. but whatever keeps people in their place.

>certain versions of an age old tuberculosis vaccine apparently train your immune system to respond against infections similar to covid
>give you boosted malaria resistance as well and current anti-covid medications are repurposed anti-malaria drugs
>USA and Italy both never did widespread vaccination of this type

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>A fucking $200 policy will cover almost everything these days and deductibles are rarely past $500
does this cover ambulance rides? or is that separate.

1.5% mortality rate and 100% bankruptcy rate from hospital bills

>US and UK
>civilized countries

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user, people can read through the reply chain. Moving goal posts and cting like a condescending dick isn't going to covert people to your side.

Uneducated meme replier
Go back to school or Europe

health care system != quality of health care
duh, the case of a pandemic is an extraordinary circumstance where the health care system would be irrelevant

I would happily pay for private insurance if my tax rate were reduced by whatever part of it pays for the NHS. I fucking hate the ridiculous amount of waiting involved for subpar care that we Britbongs get.

whatever namefag. insurance was touted as some sort of cure all to the health care debt problems in the US, it's not as ive shown with basic logic: you still pay, and for major medical procedures you pay a lot. but keep coping with your failed argument, it's cute. peace.

how long do you have to wait

No, you can't, no carrier would let you have both, you can only have one or the other. At most you might be able to make a "limited" contribution fund to your insurance. Jesus kid, go away already

But they aren't cucked enough to close their borders and stop flights unlike here in Germany.

Yes. I can read the reply chain. You seem to have a poor grasp on the discussion.

How is it contained if you are just letting people die untreated?

simple google search proves you wrong but ok

You've been btfo repeatedly and shown to pull shit out of your ass and you're still at it. Truly lefties are the most tenacious retards I have ever seen

>$60 for a game
>$1000+ for a PC
>fucking expensive

It's not exactly cheap, but especially considering how much value a PC offers overall, what kind of poorfag are you?

I'm really fortunate to live in a country with public healthcare.
Not as extreme as in the UK, but way better than in the US.
You pay a fixed ratio of your salary, and everything is covered.

By welding their doors shut so they can't get out.

Simple Google search already says otherwise, not to mention every fucking insurance carrier I'm the US will tell you the same thing I've just told you but OK

Better than the US in what respect because I gaurantee I get better quality care than you with better qualified doctors and pay less in insurance than you pay in taxes

>he took off his name for this post
imagine being this fucking stupid lmao. United healthcare offers insurance in conjunction with an HSA or FSA. Source: I have this plan now.
get a fucking job and quit being a larping polfag.

>#1
>United States

Hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahuaeihgakteakjngaekjgnta

>duude just pay the rating agency to fake the results
Why the fuck do people still trust those?

Everyone knows the US has top notch facilities, probably the best in the world. But that is fucking irrelevant in this case. Your general health care system and average hospitals are fucking garbage.

having free healthcare doesn't mean that you got better doctors and stuff. It just means you pay more taxes to have worse services.

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United Health offers limited insurance in conjunction with HSA and from what I've seen it covers shit like dental and vision. Nice try trying to move the goal posts though and get better insurance UHC is utter shit that I had when I worked for Target while in college Even McDonalds gives better inaurance

Everyone is insured, although it isn't free.
If you have no income, and no possessions, social welfare pays for it.

>pay less in insurance than you pay in taxes
My taxes cover many public amenities I regularly use, that you have to pay for.
Taxes are A-okay, if the money is used in a way that benefits (You).
I had no study debt at the end of my degree course.
Looking at the US, I'm really thankful for that, and hope, we will be able to keep this up.

Our general system works fine except for poorfags going to the ER for papercut and the shitty hospitals tend to be the public ones. I go to a private hospital

People need to get treatment in hospitals
That what health care is

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i have to dissagree since the health care quality is amazing but it may cost your fucking life later that would be better if you were fucking dead

Opposite. Less taxes for better services.

You do have debt when you finish school, it's the tax debt you'll pay for the rest of your life and I personally don't want to pay for someone else to get a free ride on my dime. My government fucks enough things up as it is and I don't want to add to the list. We technically already have government insurance anyway and both programs are shit

You guys all talk as if there were any quality consistency from doctor to doctor or from hospital to hospital for that matter. I swear to god you can go to any two hospitals in the same country and you will always get a completely different quality of service.

Shitty doctors are of course more common in general though.

Holy fuck the cognitive dissonance is dripping from your post. You accuse me of moving the goal post but you are literally moving the goal post. You claimed that insurance companies will not offer insurance + hsa, now you're back pedaling to "well they do but it sucks lmao!". Have a nice day moron.

No retard, you don't have to go to a hospital in order to receive health care. The two are not mutually exclusive

Yes because waiting on a list to see a doctor while paying more taxes than what someone pays in insurance is superior

>I personally don't want to pay for someone else to get a free ride on my dime
That someone will be your children, you fucking retard.

There's is no back peddalling when you're claiming a fucking falsehood and parading around as fact. a UHC insurance plan in conjunction with a HSA doesn't cover actual healthcare, it's for other shit and you're still lying about your deductible and I know that for a fact because I had UHC when I worked for Target

I used the NHS 15 years ago. It was shit then and it's shit now.

You mean less money in taxes for superior coverage.

Dude I have fucking medical, dental, vision, and an HSA. You can find these plans on their website. You claimed insurance + HSA does not exist. You were wrong. Admit it. If you can't, we're talking really bad character trait and/or possible mental defection. Consider self reflection. Once again, have a good day.

And just to shit on you further

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Honestly I feel ripped off for being forced to pay for health care as a young adult that is healthy and that lives a quiet life. I understand the system only works by exploiting healthy people though.

You pay more, the US has some of the lowest tax rates, and you care is worse as you have waiting lists and most of your doctor's aren't specialists whereas it's mandatory for every US doctor to be a specialist

Anything you pay for that is supplied by the state is always cheaper.

All these studies are conducted by US and UK institutions who vastly overrate their home countries on idealogical grounds.

Pretty popular one from 2014 boosted the USA to top 3 based on "its admiration of human life and belief in freedom and community" apparently meaning it could contain any outbreak through grit and cooperation.

Yeah. It's horseshit.

You choose to have children retard

Ah, the bliss of stupidity and ignorance.
Let's meet again in a few weeks my young friend.

BASED

That is not true in the slightest

Its almost like not not eating medics like they are candies is actually good for your immune system

How much is a bottle of water from Nestle vs a gallon of water from the tap?

k fag. Screencapping these posts.
I'll be back on the 15th.

That system is ass backwards though. Having generalists stationed to filter the masses while sending specific problems to specialists is way more logical. Not to mention most daily health problems are simply not complex enough to require a specialist.

Are you fucking comparing a bottle of water with tap water? And your water bill will vary based on location and how much you use

You misunderstand, every doctor has to specialize but not every doctor becomes a dedicated specialist.

I'm comparing state water to private water.

bad takes all around itt

US health care system sucks absolute dick and is 100% in need of fixing (not in the way socialists want though)

NHS is below average and bloated but it works (for the most part)

for most western countries though multipayer is the way to go. US should be emulating germany and switzerland here, not UK and canada

State water fucking varies you absolute mong and your water bill is from your city, not your state

A lot of countries have tap water that is way better than store water and cheaper at that.

A city government is a state, retard. Also, Nestle water is the same water. Just like state healthcare is the same healthcare as private healthcare.

>200k US deaths incoming
I don't think you will, somehow.

So you've never paid a water bill in your life

So what's the point then? You realize graduating with a field you specialize in but then not using that knowledge in your work environment will make you worthless in that field. A real specialist is someone with years of dedication dedicated to a specific field. Graduates are all worthless till they are shaped by years of practical experience. A degree is just used as a filter, it's not proof that you actually know what you're doing.

Have you clapped for RNHS yet?

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I live in the EU, in the Baltics at that, with some of the highest taxes in the EU, and I pay it every month.

still more accurate than pff rankings

No retard, your city is a different locality than your state and public healthcare is generally shit compared to private healthcare which is why most people choose to go to private hospitals which offer better care and services. The fucking VA was literally killing people with the shit care they provided

Fill a bathtub with even the cheapest store bought water to experience the difference, you fucking imbecile.

So your doctors are less qualified than US doctors, got ya

>Sweden
Oh yeah sure, we would've. IF THE FUCKERS IN POWER DIDN'T GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO IGNORE AND STOP DOING TESTS LIKE AS IF THAT'LL JUST MAKE THE PROBLEM GO AWAY GOD DAMNIT

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Yeah, our doctors are less qualified for cutting off foreskin and genital mutilation, you got me there.

>No retard, your city is a different locality than your state
A city, county, state, and country are all states.

Explain how healthcare would change if it became state healthcare. Are all the hospitals just going to shut down?

Once again proving you've never paid a water bill before

This is what happens when you put women in charge, user.

It's about the quality of care the system provides, not to mention the cost and I neither want the shitty care nor the increase in taxes, especcially since it only benefits parasites

>US and UK that high
Ayyy lmao. Meanwhile, we're over here dabbing on anglocucks with our "socialist healthcare"

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So all the doctors are just going to find another job or move out of the country? All the hospitals are going to shut down? Explain what changes.

>poor people can't get it so it's bad
literally the opposite of how it works, your healthcare is what's shit.

I'm a plumper, I'm the water bill.

>is this a joke? US and UK have the worst health care systems out of all civilized countries.

Stop conflating the healthcare in London to the rest of the country.

This, I'd much rather pay for health insurance and know what it's going towards and be able to negotiate a better deal each year rather than being taxed for the NHS and having no idea where any of that money goes and is likely being wasted anyway.

>So all the doctors are just going to find another job or move out of the country?
You say that like just any american medical school graduate qualifies to be a doctor in america.

Good joke. Private insurance only gets more and more expensive the older you get.

Yes the more likely you are to use it, but at the moment I pay just as much as everyone else despite never using it.

>its a retard e-conservative pretends america has good and affordable healthcare thread

Lmao cringe and die of corona

>countries worst prepared for a pandemic happen to handle the pandemic the best
>in picture it has the countries best prepared to deal for pandemic
??????

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As it should be. Fuck boomers

For the record.

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The only good that can come from this is London being completely cut off from the rest of the country and the resulting chimpout burning that shithole to the ground.

@501642364
The countries in the OP pic are also hit the hardest, you utter fucking brainlet.

The US and Britain are currently folding like paper

video games

Someone explain how you have high medical costs in the US. If you have insurance why do you still have to pay the majority of the bill, doesn't that defeat the point? Seems like you're just getting swindled by middle men

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fuck off with your socratic inquiry and just shitpost usa bad already

China has a higher population you dumbass

Suck my dick, hall monitor faggot

>tfw the North West figures is basically Liverpool because of all the chinks here
And we STILL don't have the new Hospital that was meant to open in 2017 because the contractor cheaped out then went bust. Leaving a massive bill to fix the building so its safe

>Seems like you're just getting swindled by middle men
You don't fucking say?

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>believing Beijing's numbers
They probably have at least 100k dead by now

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The UK isn't folding, we just have certain areas that are more stressed than others. If anything this is expected because places like London are well known for being massive shitholes decades before any of this.

Finland is doing pretty well as far as I know. Sweden is fucked, but I don't consider that a big loss.

>a bunch of poors and negroes go bankrupt
oh no

How the fuck do you hide 100k dead without anyone seeing it?

Seems like a pretty shit study.

ghsindex.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/2019-Global-Health-Security-Index.pdf

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>I'd much rather pay for health insurance and know what it's going towards and be able to negotiate a better deal each year
Is that really what you think would happen? Look at the U.S.

wouldn't it be simpler to leave the kid at home

>Finland is doing pretty well
What do you expect from a country that practised social distancing for centuries before it became cool?

>companies start going bankrupt after a few weeks of reduced business
Whole economy is a ponzi and businesses are just as bad as niggers.

this user is right I don't think china would kill a shitload of people and then try to hide it that doesn't sound like them

Yes, our country is run by corporations.

If you are actually dying the emergency room will not charge you upfront. Also staying home is literally the solution to the pandemic.

>thinks affordable means good
>calls others retards

I didn't vote for these retards. Besides, the decision came from a man.

Ask Hitler

>thinking you would get a lower tax rates
Americlaps still pay high taxes

US hospitals charge you for the privilege of holding your baby after you pop it out. This is after you've paid them to mutilate your sons penis so they can sell the foreskin to cosmetic companies

Americans pay more for healthcare than any other country in the world. You can fly to Spain. live there for a year, and get 2 hip replacements for the price of one his replacement in the US. Your health insurance money is also only going to the company that sold you insurance, not a penny goes to a hospital until you injure yourself

I don't think Germany was very much concerned with hiding or having "humane" procedures in their priority list, especially during a time of war.

>Germany hoards all the medical equipment
>Innocently wonders why it has a low death rate
Germany is a blight on the entire continent and always will be

>they literally just have you lay there and wait to see if you die or not
Do americans really believe that? No wonder you're dying in spades

I bet you clapped for our NHS.

I'm so tired of this meme, we pay less in insurance than any other country pays in taxes and any mimicry of a single payer system would result in a tax increase to support the additional costs. Even faggots like Bernie Sanders admitted this

When did germany become this based? Italian, spain, greece etc, they were always a liability. Thank god for the virus for germany to wake up a little.

t. Gian Luigi, who's grandpa is already being treated in a German hospital

You fags need to solve why the fuck your healthcare is so expensive in the first place. Private healthcare anywhere else in the world is crazy cheaper

They charge for the room, the drugs, the blood they might have to give you and the labor of the staff. Did you think preventing you from dying while popping out your spawn should have been done for free?

This is so retardely hilarious I naacp'd myself

This shit is the first time in a long time I'm actually really happy to live in Germany. Say about our retarded government what you will, but they've been doing things a lot better than other euro-countries, especially when it comes to testing

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Holy shit, it's like as you get older you develop more health problems or something

OY VEY REMEMBER THE SIX MILLION THIS IS ANTI-SEMITISM I TELL YOU

Seeing all these seething Europoors come to grips with the indisputable FACT that their socialized healthcare is worse than the US is amazing.

Sorry that your governments, which clearly care about you sooooo much, neglected to build enough hospitals and beds for you and are now running literal death tribunals to assess which civilians to deny coverage. If only they didn't waste all those resources importing foreign workers to take your jobs, huh?

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The system becomes bloated, future medical school students become shittier as the system focuses on quantity and not quality, care quality plummets, basically the VA on a mass scale

Just let them cope in peace, user. This is literally all they have.

Amerilards are dumb fucking laying retards. Who fucking knew? There are dumb nigger countries starting to outsmart you at this point.

Canada one of the only ones deserves to be on that list. We win again boys.

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We pay fewer taxes than yuros and we don't pay taxes at all on trivial shit like toilet paper that you have to pay and our products are cheaper

Are you really defending charging some one money for holding their new born baby to them after its come out? They literally list it on the bill as a $400 charge

>US healthcare is so great that even fucking RUSSIA is sending aid to the US
Can't make this shit up. Now only Cuba's left to give you fags a helping hand.
youtube.com/watch?v=y2xdMenxFrY

Then where are the mass graves of six million Jews

Hospitals and doctors can be sued in the US, pretty sure yuros have made it either impossible or next to impossible to do the same.

Essential items don't have tax on them, do you still have to tag on sales tax for toilet paper?

>Germany hoards all the medical equipment
We do?
Then why dont we have enough masks and beds?

Germany
>26k intensive care beds
Italy
>6k intensive care beds
UK
>4k intensive care beds

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They can be. If you fuck up you can and will be sued
See

Holy shit, it's as if the system is currently overloaded or something

>Germany
k intensive care beds
Make that 40k

>best prepared for a pandemic
>gets fucked by a pandemic every other country besides Italy has managed to contain

Germany is counting them differently. Anyone that has a disease other than COVID will not count towards COVID death toll

There is no sales tax for toilet paper

Every country helps other countries during natural disasters, you dumb twat. It's a political gesture to score brownie points later on.

He's probably referring to the fact that Germany stopped exporting medical equipment and also seized medical equipment heading for other countries that made the mistake of going via Germany.

Can they be sued for millions? Because a leading cause to increased cost is to cover the malpractice insurance for hospitals and doctors for claims that can range into the millions

Then we're the same

What does better preparation to do with hoarding ,you retard?
Do you think germans just "stole" Italy's beds or something? Italy's economy was fucked for years and they cut health-care funding. We've even taken people from Italy, the Netherlands and France in to be treated at our hospitals
Yeah, I heard they were converting beds into intensive care beds

jealous as fuck of the greatest nation in human history

ironically, this kind of thinking is what has gutted the NHS in England. They imagine that they can import the ideas, methods, practices etc of private healthcare to make the NHS more efficient. What you get instead is a total clusterfuck of trusts, management organizations, imagining patients as "customers" of the NHS, etc. it's total bollocks.
it's infinitely more efficient to take the route Scotland did and just stick with (more or less) the pre-John Major era NHS structures, try to centralize procurement and management, recognize that doctors and nurses want to treat the sick and will try to do that if you leave them alone rather than buggering off to take 15 tea breaks the moment a manager is more than 2ft away, etc.

new public management is the greatest crime against public policy in centuries.

>G-germany's lying
>b-but everyone else is totally honest
lol ok

In case you haven't noticed, it's only our over crowded urban shit holes that are currently having problems. The rest of us are fine

Yes
See seizing other peoples shit isn't "preparing"

It just shows how a country which scored something like 60+ on the list in the OP has managed to do better at dealing with pandemic than the number one most prepared country, you fucking cretin.

No, you have VAT and pay a higher sales tax, were still not the same

We are fine. Only sucks if you’re a Jew Yorker vermin

Doctors in US are fired if they talk about shortages of supplies...

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Why are so many retards forgetting to check that they aren't on Yas Forums before they make these threads?

VAT is our sales tax, but we aren't taxed on essentials

Only thing I don't understand is why the numbers are growing in germany. Germans despise each other so why is it still going strong. I understand that italy is slowing down because italy is a ghost state now but what the fuck is happening in germany.

In every fucking country it's like that. You can live in Italy somewhere in the countryside and not give two shits about any of this.

We need a list of Countries frequently visited by the Chinese to correspond with where the infections began popping up so the world can use that for reparations for our dead.

>muh reparations
>implying the US Fed Reserve could keep up with paying out reparations
nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research-1.18787

Stop spreading this Italo-meme. We even counted people with severe heart-diseases who died of heart-failure because they also had Covid
Because we do a shitload of tests, probably the most out of every european country. Most people are taking this shit really serious here. The UK does fuck all for testing apparently and has less than half of our infections but more than twice our deaths. The fucking Netherlands only test people who are really sick and/or old and have 1k deaths/13k confirmed cases. If those countries tested more they'd find more mild cases and their death rates would shrink

Thats because medicine is privatized much like prisons but only slightly better.

Wasn't talking about the US you fucking mongoloid I was talking about China.

oh no no no

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And I'm saying you're really bad at shifting the blame, retarded mutt.

the NHS is fucking awful, I've heard nothing good about it besides it's "free"

I actually would have had more respect of america if they actually committed with their strategy of not giving a fuck for the sake of the economy. But only when it was far too late they started with the quarantine. Now they are completely fucked both ways.

Why would you hear anything good about it? If they make it look good you might want to change how bad your system is

the US states might as well be different countries for how they're handling this pandemic

NY is testing a fuck ton of people. They should have shut down everything 2 weeks earlier but the response has been solid at least

I think the country that's dealing with it the worst is Spain. They have like a 10% death rate.
The US has a shitload of infections, which makes sense considering how big the country is, but Spain still has more infections per 1000 people. That being said the US is really fucked, because it likely has metastasized, so good luck rooting it out. And good luck getting low IQ Americans with guns to stay inside for two months.

>Norway
You mean the country that just came out and said “We have no culture, please immigrate here and fuck our women?”

Hmm, lets look where it started....China. Lets look at who knew about it....China. Lets look at who covered it up as long as they could...CHINA. Seems I placed the blame on the right fucking subhuman scum. And I'm the retarded one. Thanks Chinese spy. Keep working for that social score, I'm sure they wont put a bullet in your head if you keep trying to convince the world the obvious fact that China fucked everybody over is just not true.

So was China's plan to kill as many westerners as possible?

>dont wowy mr amewicun piggu
>viwus noot tha bahd
>no need for extweem measures
>u weel all be safe

>confusing Norway with Sweden

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Spain has the same problem Italy has with Lombardy and China had with Wuhan: A massive cluster-area, theirs being Madrid, where like the majority of deaths occur.

At least that wasn't the foundation of the entire country like the US

I literally linked you an article that says that the same virus was developed in the US in 2015. Shortly before the outbreak in Wuhan, there were war games conducted between the Chinese and US military. In october of 2019 Bill and some other large farma companies conducted preparations for a pandemic.
So yeah, mutts shifting the blame like always.

What? UK has one of the best.

that's america

But the gun nuts are the ones most likely to stick themselves in a bunker and "wait it out".

That sounds like a bunch of mumbo jumbo political speak. What actually happens?

No, their measures were really hardcore and should've shook up the rest of the world but didn't. Even their president said multiple times what a horrible situation it was. But they are probably using it now to improve their standing as a world power right now
>US scrambling to contain it, grabbing all the resources
>China positioning itself as the night in shining armour, delivering medical-supplies, doctors, all that good stuff to countries in need

And whatever undocumented illegals. As soon as the government proposes public health care that is not given to illegal immigrants and on a restricted basis for visitors (i.e. when your visa/permission to be here expires), I will vote for it. NOTE I FUCKING SAID ILLEGAL, LEGAL TAX-PAYING IMMIGRANTS ARE FINE

>And good luck getting low IQ Americans with guns to stay inside for two months.
Man Jew yorkers are braindead

The retards over on Yas Forums are already rationing their provisions. The fuck is wrong with the world right now. Is everyone completely retarded this days?

probably an economic hostile takeover, they're ready to buy up europe like theyre buying up africa and australia

>Editors’ note, March 2020:We are aware that this story is being used as the basis for unverified theories that the novel coronavirus causing COVID-19 was engineered. There is no evidence that this is true; scientists believe that an animal is the most likely source of the coronavirus.
Hmmmm....

Why would you even go to Yas Forums at a time like this?

Are quarantined US citizens monitored in any way?
Some countries are straight tracking their movement through the phones, is this even possible in the US?

>what is damage control
If I'm to believe that either the Chinks invented the virus in a wuhan lab or the Burgers created it in 2015 and are now just damage controlling, I'm choosing the latter.

when you go to a real first world country like Germany or in east asia you realise just how shitty it is.

Funny how as a result of a global lockdown the ozone layer has near enogh fixed itself. What if it was maufactured for this purpose?

Kill hundreds of thousands to save millions.

Is he right or wrong? m.youtube.com/watch?v=RFftsn6izic

Yeah, I wonder why...

Source?

wrong. west is just coping.

I think part of the reason more developed countries are having a harder time of this is because the current generation is so entitled they can't comprehend the idea that they should be inconvenienced in any way. Wait for the sudden spike after Easter because everyone decided that meeting up with family is a suitable reason to break lockdown.

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No it wasn't. It was developed in Canada, there was a rogue Harvard scientist involved, but it wasn't made in the US and it wasn't sanctioned by the government, you absolute idiot.

Didn't Snowden recently comment on this?

Because only a retard would trust a mutt (retard).
t. balt

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>the elite
>wanting to save others and this planet
The goal is create a tombstone and leave when it gets bad

>not listening to stallman's advice
stallman.org/articles/dont-watch-covid-tv.html

So it was developed in the US?

Oh look who got infected, the Chinese spy. It was a US/China venture you dumb nigger. They let that shit escape from their fucking labs and because their slave population isn't being fed they "cook" and I use that term loosely, anything and everything they can grab. They even make food out of fucking industrial waste for a quick buck without a care in the fucking world. Its clear that this type of behavior is responsible. Keep trying to blame the US though, thats why your ass got infected.

>Because only a retard would trust a mutt
As opposed to trusting Beijing? Stop huffing glue, you discount Russian

>is this even possible in the US
Bruh the CIA has a backdoor into every smartphone in the US

The fuck are you talking about, brainlet? The ozone layer is still full of holes. For it to heal will take decades or even longer, not a few weeks.

>rationing their provisions
Smart move, food shortages are a thing in the uk at the moment and you are restricted on how many of each item you buy. If this shit is going to last 6 months then that is a wise thing to do.

Google it faggot.

>TFW no cellphone

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Yes, muttoid. You are the cancer of this world.

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Nah, you don't touch your provisions as long as infrastructure is still working. Their behavior is completely retarded and I'd like a source on supply shortages for the UK that goes beyond meme products like TP or flour.

ESPECIALLY considering all the fucking metropolitan boomer liberals are emigrating en masse to their southern/rural summer homes. Driving across country COOFING all over the place. New York plates south of the Mason Dixon should be shoot on site.

And a ching chong nip wong to you, Chang

>source on supply shortages for the UK
The source is me. I'm in the uk, there are a lot of empty shelves already, you are restricted to x amount of items, you are only allowed to buy what is cinsudered essential.

If this lasts longer it is only going to get worse.

Fantasy: There is a good guy and a bad guy
Reality: There are only bad guys

The problem is people are buying way more than they usually do, so obviously shelves are going to be empty. If retards weren't out panic buying perishable goods we wouldn't be in this mess

There's bad guys and then there's China

They've literally had a over 2 million decrease in mobile phone users out of nowhere. Some think that might be actual number of infected

That's not due to supply shortages but abnormal customer behavior. Harvests have been good this year. If the UK truly has a supply shortage then it's due to their incompetence of properly executing importing laws. I wouldn't be surprised since the UK just can't get their shit together ever since brexit.

>Canada
the boomers here are still congregating in parks

now you know statistics are a fucking joke

Well yeah, this is the pro lem but it is only going to get worse. If this is what it is like now one or two months down the line it is only going to get worse and tougher restrictions will be put in place.

Cope harder, Traywon.

Realistically, everyone's just out looking out for their own interests like the greedy faggots like everyone is, but glowniggers like are just too busy trying to push an agenda.

Burger pls.

Shelves are mostly filled back up now though now the meme consooooming has gone down

As long as the supply lines stay up, it's not going to get worse. People can only fit so much loo roll in their cupboards.

Seethe and moan more, Chang

>so good luck rooting it out. And good luck getting low IQ Americans with guns to stay inside for two months
I own guns and live in a rural area. I'm not going anywhere. I've got plenty to eat, plenty of toliet paper, and plenty of elk meat. In fact, I have so much elk meat that its absurd, like an entire freezer filled to the brim with it levels of absurd.

So what? Going hungry is literally the least of your problems. Maybe you will have less variation in the fridge and more inconvenience buying food but that's it. It would take decades to go from our current industrial standard to literally starving.

Fuck off Ozymandias

The panic buying is slowing down, I work in retail and I haven't been turning away any where near as many entitled retards mad I won't let them buy 10 packs of bacon or 7 4 pint bottles of milk
Its harming people who are buying for 2 households which is really annoying
I'm also sick of people going "oh I'll pay for these separately then" or "I'll go to another till with it". The fucking restrictions exist for a reason so every one can buy something still, why do you need all this bacon and milk aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Retail was never fun but its extra bad now... I did have some one thank me for my service today though which was pretty strange, when is the country going to clap for me?

You not getting a bonus? It's still too little though

Mods are fags

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I'm getting fuck all mate. I work at The Range
When this shit was kicking off shortly before lockdown they increased opening hours. Were telling staff they won't get sick pay if they have to isolate. Only if they can prove they got the virus etc. Also if the store does close they (which it wont despite 90% of customers coming in for paint and garden stuff) they wont apply for the government grant to pay us 80% of our wages as its too much hassle. The DIY and Gardening sections are taking in an insane amount of money. The most since I started working there. The store is empty other than those 2 areas. We were logging all non-essential purchases for some reason but got told to stop. I presume because its just a written record that the overwhelming majority of the people in the shop are there to buy shit they shouldn't be
They KNOW they shouldn't be out too, as they make a bunch of excuses when they get to the till

Wait I guess I lied about not getting any bonuses, they put some fruit cordial in the staff room

That's..not true.

Retail really is shit, as if being a wagie wasn't bad enough. Similar shit to you, meanwhile people i know are sitting at home getting paid 80%.