Welp the government wants to kill Encryption with the "EARN it act." Fucking hell America

And meanwhile, Joe Biden continued with his story about Corn Pop:
>"After I took down Corn Pop and his fellow bad boys, Honeycomb, Apple Jack, and that dimwit, Special K, Corn Pop and I developed a mutual respect for each other and we became good friends. In fact, I briefly dated his sister, Sugar Smack, but that was before she began writing bad Chex and turning Trix.

>So, late one night Corn Pop and I walked downtown to grab sandwiches at Subway. It was about 2 a.m. and along the way we ran into Jussie Smollet, who smelled of bleach and had a rope around his neck, but we didn't think anything of it. Then, out of nowhere, Cesar Sayoc's white van covered in Trump stickers, which strangely didn't have a scratch on it, pulled up and Nick Sandmann and his Covington Catholic crew, all wearing red MAGA caps, jumped out, and they began staring us down.

>I tell you, I was never so scared in my Life. It was scarier than finding yourself in a dark alley with Count Chocula and Franken Berry. Corn Pop was so scared that he dropped a load of Cocoa Puffs in his pants. I was about to whip out my cell phone and call for military backup since I had Captain Crunch and General Mills on speed-dial, but at that moment I said to myself, 'I'm a Biden, man, and I'm not going to be intimidated and bullied.' So I grabbed a drum from Nathan Phillips and walked over and beat it in Nick's face while chanting the war cry of Elizabeth Warren's tribe.

>Man, that was something! I look back on that night and thank my Lucky Charms that I'm alive today to tell you about it. No joke! Cerealously, that's the truth, on my name as a Biden."

Case in point, literally everyone who ever got canceled after some spergs dug up their old twitter posts.

>i need to backdoor all online security to keep my country secure
nigga wut

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Explain to me what this is like I'm a 7 year old, I looked it up and didn't get much

Let me give the following theoretical example between a cop and a father where the father has been accused of sexually abusing his daughter when he in reality is innocent but ends up incriminating himself despite it.

Police: Did you touch your daughter's genitals?

Dad: No.

Police: Do you give your daughter baths?

Dad: Yes

Police: Do you wash your daughter's private parts?

Dad: Yes.

Police: So you do touch your daughter's genitals?

Dad: Um.. No. It's not what it looks like.

Ok. Gimme your usernames and passwords for all your socials then. I'll post whatever I find interesting on here.

Fuck of gubberment

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The government wants to ban any encryption that doesn't have a government backdoor. Freaky stuff. If you really want to make a change, write to or call your senator and tell them to oppose the EARN it act.

The scariest part about this bait is that somewhere out there some cocksucker who is in a position of authority actually believes this.

Not true. No human knows all the laws, so therefore there is no way to know whether you are in violation or not.

This

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why the fuck did I read this?

That’s funny, I don’t see the CIA the FBI or Dept of Defense or the White House following that same guidance.

If they can keep dirty laundry, so can citizens.

No human, but an organization of hand picked people who share a goal of national security.

They're not that stupid, they know when to use and when not to use power for the most part. Sure there's mistakes, sure there's dicks, but the cost of not implementing safety measures is far greater than the cost to freedom of implementing them.

That's misrepresenting a statement, the guy would be innocent. No one in the NSA or CIA would see this man as guilty.

Secrets of national security are completely different from personal secrets user.

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I bet you think the guvmint did a great job preventing 9/11, you dickbag.

They put profits and funding ahead of national security, and if you want proof of that, good luck because it is both classified and encrypted.

>No one in the NSA or CIA would see this man as guilty.
This is coming from the country that puts adults on sex offender lists for sending their 17.5 year old nudes to their boyfriend?
You put a lot of faith in the judgement of others towards you, user.

I...don't see the problem? They're not going to be monitoring everyone's everything 24/7, they're incapable of that. It sounds like it'd only get checked if there's suspicion, the way security cameras in grocery stores are always on but only checked after a crime. What's the big deal?

Kindly explain to me how backdooring all encryption is a safety measure?

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lemme guess, personal secrets shouldn't exist, right? Post your full name mailing address, and all your usernames, emails, and passwords right here, right now.

The thing is that as an outside party, the police does not know that the dad is actually innocent, They don't know the facts and that is why he is asking questions. Even given that, I don't believe it is unusual for police to misrepresent people's statements anyways.

plus, if everything has a backdoor, there's nothing stopping someone other than the government from using it too. you want to spread your cheeks for hackers, be my fucking guest. but don't make the rest of us do it too.

The big deal is that it's literally a national security risk. It pokes a hole in encryption, and that's just another failure point for hackers to exploit. It puts the safety and security of every United States citizen at risk.

This will most likely not pass once tech companies start to get wind about it, and move on beyond managing their virus'd selves. It causes too much potential damage to consumers, which will be felt by share holders and top dawgs alike.

Please keep raising awareness tho! Also, fuck them for disguising this as an anti child porn act.

Trump won't let this happen. He's on the peoples side, that's why I voted for him.

This. We all know there's corruption in government organizations, and if someone is innocent but being targeted by the government for whatever reason, they can and will take those statements out of context. It's why when they read you your Miranda rights, they say "anything you say can and will be held against you." It is a certainty.

I forgot to add that, if I've been reading up correctly this will make a small council of about 19 people who will decide what is and isn't acceptable internet behavior. The council will be at the behest of Barr, which feels like a free speech violation. So I really don't think this will get legs, but out politicians are stupid and dicks so who knows.

Having a council to decide what is and isn't acceptable speech is literally a violation of free speech, regardless of who is on the council.

So FBI having a dossier on Sam Cooke and Muhammad Ali was of the upmost national security? And of the CIA having info on dirtbag Donny T’s activities in Russia before the sham of the election made him the top figure in that organization? All of that was to protect the citizens, no?

Misgivings by the government should not be protected no matter how big the embarrassment.

nice bait. trump doesn't know shit about encryption and security and probably believes that that would actually work

Umm yes they are. But you can’t know that coz it’s a secret.

Just because somebody has a secret doesn't mean that they are doing something wrong. A woman having a draw full of dildos is an example. She is doing nothing wrong or even illegal but she may be embarrassed about the dildos and I don't see how her dildo collection is rest of society's business.

As I said, there's mishaps, but it's better to have the power to protect the nation than to not.

>Government

You meant "Republicans"

It keeps cops and federal agents as well as prosecutors from doing annoying things like actual investigations or protecting liberties.

Society's, no.
The CIA, yes.

>Wants to steal all your personal information so they can arrest you and charge you for any little thing you do
"Bu-buh it's fur thuh childrun user! Dink of duh cheeldrun!!!"

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That's the problem though. The government would read through everyones messages and either jump to conclusions or use them as an excuse to maliciously pursue people.

>it's okay, the politician I voted for will protect me!
Look, I voted Trump too, but you should never trust any politician to keep your best interests in mind, no matter how good they seem. The best thing to do to stop this from passing is to raise awareness, and contact your local lawmakers.

Which part of the bill, exactly, bans end-to-end encryption?

no, the dildo collection is NOT the CIA's business. it's not even the FBI's or NSA's business. I don't care how much crack she's stashed in that drawer, They don't get to search it without a warrant.

There are liberals everywhere in the government.

Yes... that's what I just said.

If she could be a terrorist, yes they do.

Waste of quads. They would literally need the FBI guy Reddit meme to be a thing, with half the country being a government agent and each assigned to a different person to always monitor anything and everything they do. The internet is so widespread you can't just easily monitor that many people

if they think she's a terrorist, then they should have no problem getting a warrant and doing this the right way.

Everyone could be a terrorist, that's how probability works. But it's better to let 10 guilty men go free than to let one innocent person suffer.

Whether you think the gooberment should be able to spy on you or not there's a much much bigger fucking problem here. When you create back doors, you're creating a vulnerability to other people as well. If the government can get in to watch you masturbate, then so can a decently skilled hacker. Destroying encryption is a much bigger issue than just privacy. They're fixing to destroy cyber security as a concept.

It may not explicitly ban end to end encryption but it gives a guy who wants to ban it the power to do so.

AFTER they get a warrant. They have to follow due process.

Better to let 1 innocent person suffer and get 10 guilty men for it

They have the power to protect in the most advanced intelligence gathering capabilities. So boo fucking hoo, if they have to go through courts to make sure they are not abusing said power or have carte blanche to do whatever the fuck they want with it whenever they want.

My liberties are more important than both your & the government’s laziness and xenophobia.

Until they do

Due process doesn't matter to this government.

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might as well just put everyone in prison then. we'd get all the criminals

This is the real problem. It's not a matter of rights, it's a matter of the security of the entire country. Creating a backdoor creates a vulnerability, and this could be used against us by foreign nations to undermine the safety and security of everyone in America.

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THIS so hard

Big data can. It’s how they broke stealth technology. The nsa has some frighteningly powerful algorithm programs.

I’ve seen them at work.

End to end encryption is the only bypass to not allow nsa systems to snoop.

>quote attributed to somebody without a source
"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." -Abraham Lincoln

You can't catch 10 criminals by tossing some random innocent in jail, dumbass. What kind of retard logic is that?

Fuck off libcuck he never said that

Are you fucking retarded? You think the nsa is the equivalent of mall cops stating at monitors? There are algorithms that gather and present information to them. Like if they wanted to see nudes of your wife and teen daughters. If they send them electronically without end to end encryption, that can easily be gathered.

From what I read of it in the text of the bill itself, it establishes a committee of 19 members of varying qualifications to create a list of best practices that companies may or may not choose to follow.

I believe it’s from the Guantanamo bay school of Aristotelian criminal justice philosophy.

And you assume these people are reasonable and will do the right thing?

Fuck those 19 people, give it to all or give it to none.