Holy shit

>How can a guy get a date out of these sites when any message you send is just one of hundreds every few days? How does online dating ever work for anyone?
You aim down ie go for single mothers and the like.

I've always said that all people should catfish as the opposite gender at least once to see what it's like from the other side. Guys need to see the results of their collective simping, orbiting, and white knighting. Girls need to see just how bad they would have it if they were their opposite gender looksmatch.

It doesn't work unless you either stand out from the other literal 1000s of choices or the girl simply doesn't participate in the culture.

his confidence and his haircut

>Something that is different from what everyone else sends you, that captures your attention and never,
I know it's hard to give exact advice but could you give an example of something that might stand out to you?

You're essentially in a rigged game, so you have two smart options:
>dont play at all
>find a way to exploit the rig, i.e. become a fuckboy or come up with super original, outstanding messages

>I should do one with ciara pics and quotes next. someone do the about me summary for her and ill do it
Do this and put her in a big city. I bet she would get literally over 100 messages per day

Being on a dating site conveys neediness, IMO, and sending the first message does it tenfold.

First of all, I'm a man so everything I say is from a perspective of being the sender or the friend of the recipient girl.
Having said that, examples that were successful in the past included for instance a guy that shared his grandma's cheesecake recipe; a guy who came up with a little story like "you have two doors in front of you. A - left, B - right"; or a guy who sent a pic of a lotto ticket and asked which numbers to cross.

fucking kindergarden tier shit. Women are pathetic and these men are below them.

And the user asking 3-4 times for a pre-made message to send to women from someone on here is the most pathetic.

This obviously only worked for the woman it was destined for, messages like this would probably not yield success if adressed to the average club stacy. Should go without saying imo.
But overall I agree, online dating is inherently pathetic and should be refrained from as much as possible.