being a human, we have things that influence towards one opinion or another; a child growing up in a satanist cult wouldn't have the free will necessary to choose to be good, because they wouldn't know what "good" even is
and why would god need to be a proud parent? why would a being capable of doing anything it wanted perfectly need the validation?
Low iq stoners go on about how psychedelics open your mind up and make you more positive
James Ramirez
Blake Barnes
do you think a soul contains our personality? what about when people get brain damage and change?
Aiden Lewis
>It actually does indeed change lives.
It can, sometimes, but that doesn't mean it will. Or that you couldn't reach the same conclusion with sufficient navel gazing.
I've spent several years experimenting with psychedelics and i never had an experience like that. Most of the time a trip is just a trip.
Ryan Long
Being influenced doesn't take away free will. There's actual reallife cases of children who grew up in cults rejecting those teachings.
>and why would god need to be a proud parent? why would a being capable of doing anything it wanted perfectly need the validation?
As i said, i'm not religious. But from what i know of Christianity that's how god is supposed to be.
As for why? No idea. Ask your local priest i guess.
I don't even get what my fellow humans are thinking most of the time, i certainly have no idea what would motivate a god.
Leo Hughes
Yes, in a way.
First of all we need to clarify what Catholics mean by soul. Catholics are not Cartesian dualists, so they don't see the soul and the body as 2 different objects. Catholics are monists, which means body and soul are one objection, similar to how a golden statue is made up by the matter (gold) and the form (the shape of the statue). The soul is therefore the shape or the form or the body.
>what about when people get brain damage and change?
It seems like it would change people, even being restricted to a wheelchair might change your personality.
However, Catholics hold the view that God gave you the ability to understand good and evil in some way, so that you can choose how to behave. This may be clouded and you are especially called to seek truth and objective reasoning, instead of relying on your intuitions. However, we believe that people can choose the objective goodness and seek God at every point in their life.
Owen Ward
>d punish his children to an eternity of suffering when he did not impart his grace onto them?
>Because his children turned away from God and rejected his free gift. The torment is a condition of this rejection.
This is the most retarded nonsensical coping ass shit I've ever read. Just like every Christian explanations I've ever read. "It doesn't have to make sense because God is mysterious HUUUURRRR!"
Elijah Bailey
if you account for every single thing that influences us, from our peers to our gut bacteria to our brain chemistry, it does take away free will
i didnt know that catholics held that belief; does that mean since our bodies are all different, our souls are all different? does that mean that some people can have a harder time than others at doing good?
and why would god allow truth and objective reasoning to cloud us from good?
thank you for answering me btw