>tfw actually have femdom gf
>all the guys on here are not actually subs and are just coombrains or lazy
>they don't deserve a femdom gf
>luckily they will never get one
It's frustrating to see such stupidity, but gratifying to know they will never succeed, especially not long-term.
Yeah it's very easy to spot, it's all I want a femdom gf but after that demands demands demands
clueless
I had a femdom 'gf' from here before, I wasn't into femdom at all though, we met up IRL and I put a collar and leash on her and made her call me master. She was utterly humiliated by it but loved it, later she admitted that she was only into femdom because she was insecure and felt if she sexually controlled the guy she wouldn't get cheated on or something idiotic like that. I'd take another femdom gf, only to break their shitty fetish.
This is not a thread for your fanfics, scrot
>after that
Before that, even
can you explain to me what a "real sub" is then?
Whatever helps you sleep at night, kid. I've fucked 4 femanons from r9k, I'd pump and dump them and they'd then write long rants about how much of an asshole I was on here. My online handle on r9k has been posted according to desuarchive over 600 times, many of them being women or orbiters pissed off that I fucked and dumped their precious waifu. I've been talking to one popular e-girl from here that's still orbited hard (her name starts with a B) several hours a day, it won't be much longer till that number hits #5. Women love getting put on a leash and fucked hard, if you think otherwise and you're a woman you're on several layers of coping mechanisms due to some sort of trauma. You'll realize one day.
Simple. Do everything your gf wants, and enjoy it.
"But that's what I want!", you will say.
No it isn't. Explain what you believe a femdom relationship to be like.
>Do everything your gf wants
i mean to me that's the whole point of it. it's femDOM. she's supposed to be in the lead. but that doesn't mean you cannot ask for something. while it can be about the girl deciding everything, it's not only just that.
>Explain what you believe a femdom relationship to be like
what i imagine a femdom relationship to be like:
-it's more frequent that the girl is the one initiating intimacy and sex
-girl is the one in charge during sex or whatever act. pace and positions are up to her. possible extras too, but those are usually better done after talking through it with your partner beforehand.
-the guy has to be able to be receptive about the girl. he has to provide something, for example moans, for the girl to have the drive to continue. he's not supposed to just lay there, and while that can still be femdom, it definitely won't work in a relationship.
-it can be the "girl takes it whenever she likes it" type. (while i'd prefer having more wholesome relationship)
honestly, i have really hard time imagining what it would be like. i just know the main component of the girl being more assertive.
-though it can be also possible that it's the "shy dom assertive sub" relationship where the sub is more straighforward about sex but isn't still in the lead.
though i'm not here to argue what's real femdom and what's not. in my opinion there are many different kinds of subs just like there are doms. and while slave is a sub, subs aren't always slaves. while it can be about the fact that she DOMs every aspect of the relationship, it's not really about that (and personally i'd prefer to be on more equal standing outside of sex and intimacy, especially if we were to live together since i think it's good to choose about things in life together instead of her choosing everything.)
Thanks for responding, but the crucial mistake is that you even said what you want. Your list should be replaced by
>Whatever she wants
And that's it.
>i'd prefer to be on more equal standing outside of sex and intimacy
Then femdom is not for you, friend. How can you say to a girl "I want control in this aspect, but not in this," and yet claim that you are submissive, and that she is dominant? This is just you being dominant. You can't give and take as you please. Then it's just a normal male-led relationship with slightly different sex acts performed.
What, are you too ego-driven to be a girl's bitch 24/7? Well, any genuinely dominant girl won't respect you then.
Honestly I don't give a shit if the girl is dom or sub.
You are a faggot and a liar which I will prove right now. If she's real, post a picture of her with a timestamp. You won't though because you are a faggot and a liar.
How does one visually prove that a female is dominant? There are flaws in your methodology.
I don't know if BDSM is actually able to be performed safely in a mental/emotional context by the majority of humanity.
I didn't ask for a picture of him being dommed, I'm demanding he post a picture of the girl in question. He won't do it because he is
1. A faggot
2. A liar
Coming onto a taiwanese cotton-candy processing board to brag... for what?
So it is the mere existence a female that causes you doubt? If you are so in denial then I don't think anybody here can help you.
>Then femdom is not for you, friend.
i hate arguing but fuck man
this is what i mean. it's always the people who think there's the "real way to be a sub" that think like this. you're either supposed to be a slave, or a dom yourself. you know it's generally good to play co-op games with another human being? if you were to play alone, it would be a lot harder to finish it. it's the same with a relationship. yes, in a hypothetical situation, where a girl knew me so well, that she would know what is best for me, i would let her lead the whole relationship alone no problem. but you see, i'm not trying to lose control of my whole life here. i'm just not an assertive person when it comes to sex and intimacy, so i'm undeniably submissive in that area. You seem to think that you should give up everything of your own to be a sub. But let's think about this. If you're in a relationship and the girl chooses that she is the one who decides how you're going to use your money, to me she's starting to be more of a controlling person and she's just using me for her own benefit. and while it is her being dominant, it's also a sign of a bad relationship. if i wanted to get used i would go out there and literally sell myself. I don't want to be her sex toy. I don't want to be her slave. And while those ideas are, not gonna lie, kind of hot in sexual context, they are not something that i'd actually want out of a relationship. but instead I want to be a human being that is loved and that gets to love another human being.
And i'm ready to bet my ass that any genuinely dominant girl, who is a working human being, would respect me for wanting to talk about things, instead of only take charge or only let go of it entirely, especially when we're talking about a RELATIONSHIP.
these are the times i wish i could sort out my thoughs so that i could actually write something convincing but autism yipee
I'm not in denial, no idea where you got that mess from. If OP wants to come here of all places and act like he's better than everyone then he should be able to back it up.
Well, I don't think we are arguing as much as you think.
>in a hypothetical situation, where a girl knew me so well, that she would know what is best for me, i would let her lead the whole relationship alone no problem
Because for me, this is not hypothetical. So, it is possible, and should be aimed for. It's fundamentally about trust, though. The other scenarios you describe don't have mutual trust, understanding and enjoyment as foundations.
If you both know each other well, and trust each other enough, then her being dominant is essentially co-op. I mean, somebody has to make the final decision on things, after all. But that doesn't mean there is no discussion. It's about respect (both ways) and trust; and then submission and dominance are just convenient, and enjoyable, ways to manage the practicalities of the relationship.
>But that doesn't mean there is no discussion. It's about respect (both ways) and trust; and then submission and dominance are just convenient, and enjoyable, ways to manage the practicalities of the relationship.
everything you described in this post is totally different from what i got from you before and i totally agree with everything you said there. i would totally let a girl make the final decision after discussing something. that would be also easier on me since i tend to get stuck with choices. but i wouldn't be ready to transfer money from my bank account to the girl's and let her just choose where we live instead of talking about it, which is what i thought you were standing for in the earlier posts. (of course not this exact scenario but you get the point hopefully)
Bro teach me the way
>things are deserved by wanting them
That would ease things quite a lot.
Well, I still don't believe that everything should be discussed, or that I should have input on all decisions.
I trust her, so I do what she wants. I trust that her decisions will make us both happy, so I don't say "I want this" or "I need that". She can say "What do you want?" or "Do you want this?", but that is at her behest. Discussion is not mandatory; only on request. This might seem like something risky, giving up the ability to have an input in everything, but this is the thrill of pure trust, and the most enjoyable aspect of it all.
My version of your apartment scenario would be: I pick out several apartments, show them to her, and she picks the final one (or rejects all choices and I pick some more). Both partners have input, she makes the decision, and I do most of the work.
>i would totally let a girl make the final decision
But I don't like the idea of "let her do something". This just sounds like you are giving permission for the girl to be in control - just another form of dominance.
I think that she *should* make the decision, because she is better at it than me. Otherwise why is she in control? My gf is better at leading these things than me, so she should be in charge. It's just the most logical choice. No permission needed.
I dated a girl who generally took initiative on everything but was still sensitive to my wants and needs.
Femdom does not have to be absolute control all the time. Roleplaying is one thing but body autonomy, limits, and consent are a big part of femdom relationships.
what is meant by the "let" is that you open up yourself and give up your own control. if you don't do that no one can have control over you. it's not that i let her because she couldn't do it otherwise, but it's more that i let her because i think she should have the control. but maybe it's more like when she would take control i naturally let her which means i don't fight back, like some people would. yes, you could be open to everyone, in which case you wouldn't need to lower your guard to let someone be in charge, but that would make you really good prey for people that want to do actually bad things to you. kinda hard to explain but i hope you get the gist of it.
oh and like this user said it's consent. "letting her have the control" is essentially me showing her that what she is doing is fine
>mfw want femdom gf
>mfw want cuddles over sex
>mfw thinks sex is overrated
>mfw want her to be the big spoon and hold me and kiss my neck
welp I guess I dont deserve it then
You will find it some day user
>want
>want
>want
>wah wah wah im so sad nobody will fulfill my demands
there are plenty of other threads for having a moid pity-party
lol what board do you think you are on
Every thread is a pity thread
I just want a relationship where a woman dominates me in the bedroom but I dominate her everywhere else
I know what you are saying, and I think that we are in agreement on the practicalities of such things, and the notion of trust and consent.
But the key here is the "why". Why would you want a girl to be dominant? Because you would like it, I suppose. But for me it is a logical choice that the female should be in charge in the relationship. I think that, in general, relationships function better when the girl is the dominant partner.
Men are physically stronger, and so to voluntarily give up your position of power, and to accept that the female is actually better suited to power, is the ultimate bond, and the most perfect form of honour and trust in a couple. We do it this way because it simply makes sense.
congratulations on proving the OP correct with such efficiency
Already got this with a chubby girl lul. She is trying to stick a finger in my ass which is scaring me tho
>Why would you want a girl to be dominant?
i don't have any deep meaning for it like you do. Yes of course i like it but it's not really only about that. It's just a logical reason: i'm not that assertive, hence an assertive girl is the best compatible partner for me. And then there's this thing:
>be me 1st grade
>have a crush
>we're best friends
>one day she just out of nowhere pushes me against a wall and kisses me straigh on my lips
>still dream about it over 10 years later
i'm quite sure she had a crush on me too. nothing more happened tho since we were just kids and she moved away before 2nd grade. can't really blame me for falling girls like this.
I wasn't saying he's really wrong though? I also don't see how desiring such a relationship could possibly be bad.
I can live very unhappily without a gf
saying need cuddles over sex doesn't sound correct at all, I think sex is fine like every 2 weeks or so I guess
I didn't say want in line #3, retard
and yeah I am sad nobody will fill that void in my life, I want a mutual loving relationship, and I'd put all the effort in the world into it