Question for Incels

do you consider yourself more attractive than these ugly men you see with girlfriends?

Yes and I also have a decent looking gf what's your point

you had me going bro, you almost had me bro

OP here, not the guy you're replying too. Depends desu. I know a guy who was literally a skinny pale beta computer nerd who was in a 6 month relationship with this cute blonde girl, I would've thought me and that guy were about the same on a scale of x/10. There was also this overweight wrestler who had an equally overweight gf, who I would say I was more attractive than him, though I also wouldn't of wanted to date the girl had she even came up to me and asked so I don't think it a big deal.

Other ugly guys getting girls doesn't change my personal experience of literally never having a female be the slightest bit interested in me. Not once in my life has a girl even so much as started a conversation.
I guess my reasoning is that looks aren't the main factor in making someone an incel. There are ugly people getting laid, and there are good looking incels. I'm not all that bad looking myself.
I believe there's some other quality at play here, some inherent trait that somehow determines whether you'll actually be capable of attracting females. The expirience of being an incel, at least for me, isn't just "I'm too ugly to get laid". I have a complete inability to even imagine myself in the situation of having sex, or even just going on a date. I literally can't comprehend the possibility. I have absolutely no idea what I'd do, or how I'd act, or what it'd be like. It's like trying to imagine a color that doesn't exist. You just can't do it, because it's something entirely outside the context of your experience that you have no mental ability to do.
Being an incel is having whatever trait it is that causes this. The incel is missing something deep and instinctual that the average person is not.

>you had me going bro, you almost had me bro

Keep seething brainlet

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1: while ugly couples do exists, they are often connected by a third party called "money", "social status" and other externalized love

2: jews want you to believe such relationships are possible but they are far from the norm

what is the norm:

The norm is the tall dad and the material he settled for, their relationship third party is internalized by the mother as because of her broken self image he can only settle for chads, that's the case with most women, they have broken self-image because they are too lazy to workout so they can only settle for chads

see Neither of them were rich, and they both had the same social status

canned incel response to cope with reality

i dont see people irl

This. If you see actually ugly people they are always alone

Incels want the girl bowing down to them and offering them sex and a relationship like they see in animes.

Of course IRL not even ultrachads or whatever get relationships this way, but this is why incels ignore all the ugly couples and even more, the ugly guy that has a girl supposedly out of his league infatuated with him, there are plenty of them too

>This. If you see actually ugly people they are always alone

That's because you never leave the house and only see people in the mirror

the ugliest people i've met have girlfriends or wives. most of the single men i have met or heard of looked average.

what the fuck is the point in life if it doesn't work like anime?

what can I offer to a woman?

how much money do I make?

yeah Fuck all that

>Not once in my life has a girl even so much as started a conversation.
Lmfao they're not supposed to

If you are shallow mentally then there's nothing you can offer. You're like a female who's been born male. Consider trannyism

I only know one couple IRL where the dude is uglier, a few were the female is uglier and most of them are pretty looks match.

There will always be an exception, especially considering this is human behavior.

every time i see an ugly person in a relationship, its a reminder that i probably just look uglier than that to everyone else

What if it just means you're dumber than that person

yeah, I don't think even a man even started a conversation with me unless he needed something
That's not how life works.

I'm assuming people just put in effort and have compatible personalities. I cannot judge appearance objectively, for there is no objective concept of beauty. Since I've never been approached, I assume that means either (a) I'm unnattractive, (b) I'm not in situations that people would approach me, (c) or both.

I've never put in effort myself or approached any women. I rarely leave the house anymore, so I'm not surprised I haven't met anyone. I don't see what value I have and that's supported by the fact I've never been in a relationship. (This is chicken/egg logic, but it is still valid). I don't want to waste my and someone else's time with online dating. Worthless shit sitting on a shelf at a store just wastes shelving space and people's attention. Not everything will sell. All I'm left with is useless introspection at my perceived lack of value, so I might as well just focus on other things that are within my realm of control. I have long since stopped caring.