Pic related should be a madatory IQ test in order to vote. If you can't figure it out then you have to low of an IQ to function in a democracy.
IQ Test for Voting
A. since the cube itself doesn't have any momentum.
Cringe user never heard of General relativity hehe
It has nothing to do with general relativity in this case.
Listen to me, user... DO NOT VOTE! Leave the important choices for us!
t. someone who is educated
It would rather be Newton's first and second laws
>mandatory IQ test
>advocated by someone who knows fuck all about IQ test
But it do, from the portal universe perspective the box moves
Is a portal the same as a wormhole or no?
If not then please explain how they differ
I'll take your bait, here's a (you)
first of all, to answer that question a person needs to know about Portal
secondly, the logical answer would be A if you have played the game, but someone modded the game to create that situation, and the result was B.
depends on how the portal works
i do not understand why does a box being squished make something seemingly totally unrelated
>using a single 50/50 question to gauge iq
I think you're the retarded one here user
Moving things cant have portals on them
>b-but that one bit in Portal 2
Straight up IQ testing for candidate selecting isn't helpful.
It would be like IQ testing for deep sea divers.
People should have to at least compose one 20-page well sourced essay on the history of their country's politics, tie it in to the significance of the present-day election, and explain how it will affect their own life. Or at least demonstrate an understanding of these points orally.
If baby boomers had to pass a history course on the history of labor conditions in the 19th century, the American communist party, the sit-ins and protests of the early 20th century then maybe they would have appreciated their incredible union jobs in the 60s instead of thinking they earned their amazing lives by "workin' real hard". What a fucking dumb generation.
I agree with your method in spirit. The problem is if the "correct" answer to that thesis is falsely biased, it can be used to intentionally select for candidates that agree with whatever the status quo is. IQ testing in theory is orthogonal to any political biases, and will give you a population of people who are capable of making rational decisions. A person who can make rational decisions but is ignorant can be educated (and quickly at that), while a person who can't make rational decisions but can memorize information is just a slave who will inevitably be manipulated by other actors.
It's B. Pic related is my analysis and I'm legitimately curious what the gap in my logic is if I'm wrong. Basically I don't think normal conservation of momentum applies in this case because the space is discontinuous.
based user, B it is
Partially applying this universes physics to a virtual one is wrong user. You rely on conservation of momentum in pic related, however portal demonstrably violates that same principle when axes of the portals aren't aligned. They also violate conservation of energy. Any proof that tries to establish the behavior of the cube has to formulate a set of assumptions that defines the behavior of the universe which contains them. They will all run into contradictions because our universe doesn't support portals in the way portal does. There is no reason to believe that the cubes velocity will avoid a discontinuity just as it's position did. The way you would determine this, in a universe which supported it, would be through observation and experimentation to determine that universes physical principles (which quite clearly couldn't be the same as ours).
The real answer would be determining what the video game rules would have the cube do. The cubes velocity is stored relative to it's resting frame of reference and thus it won't move when a portal moves through it. The correct answer is A.
I'm pretty sure they're quantum tunnels not wormholes
How does the gravity in both portals affect the box? Does the floor absorb the top panel's impact? What would happen to the portal if it broke through the floor and kept going?
that's the dumbest shit ever. We aren't asking how it would work in portal. We are asking how it would work here. And besides, they already did it in portal through modding and it was B as well.
excellent analysis. Conceptually, the most convincing idea is that of the semi-departed position, where part of the cube is coming out the other portal. For the cube to remain whole, it must move out of the exit portal as quickly as it is entering the entrance portal. No math needed.
so therere misunderstood by almost everyone and cutting edge science barely understands them? sounds like a tough problem
>How does the gravity in both portals affect the box?
In portal, gravity doesn't travel through portals, but in real life something like gravity waves would probably travel through it and do some weird stuff. I don't really know, that stuff is beyond my education.
>Does the floor absorb the top panel's impact?
I don't see why not.
>What would happen to the portal if it broke through the floor and kept going?
I guess a bunch of rubble would shoot out the other end.
got tired of posting the golden balls problem in /g/?
your handwriting sucks and youre making assumptions which might be false
suppose, for example, the piston stopped halfway down the box
does the box split in two and half of it fly off, like you say, or does it remain stationary and only fly off if the entire box is engulfed?
Look man, it's not that hard. Take a ring and take something smaller than the ring. Now put the ring on this smaller thing horizontally. Did it fly away? No? Well, there you have it.
b-but he posted differentials so he must be right
>We aren't asking how it would work in portal. We are asking how it would work here.
Read my post again and try thinking this time, dumbass. It CAN'T work here, that's my point. The laws of physics explicitly do not support portals in the way portal does. You can't just use a partial system of this universes physics to describe the boxes motion. The user made the braindead assumption that the velocity of the portal as it exits the portal is the same as it enters the portal. No shit. The extrapolation was that it kept that velocity afterward. That's how objects in our universe behave, however we've determine that they behave that way through observation and describing the trend as a principal. The principal is called conservation of momentum. The problem is portal does not follow this principal, so extrapolating with it as your basis does not give you any additional confidence in your results aligning with our universes behavior.
And modders had to support moving portals, in doing so they get to decide what happens by changing how the game behaves. Valve literally didn't support checking for portal collisions when an object isn't moving. The solution to that was more than likely to move the entity into the portal on collision with the portal so that it triggers the normal portal behavior.
Honestly you are too stupid to keep this conversation going with. Please try and educate yourself on what science is.
>your handwriting sucks
Trust me I know. I've got dcd.
>does the box split in two and half of it fly off, like you say, or does it remain stationary and only fly off if the entire box is engulfed?
That's not what I'm saying at all. Its momentum is discontinuous, but the cube isn't being split in two. If the acceleration of the cube as it exists the blue portal generates enough force to overcome gravity and the inertia of the cube, then the whole thing will fly out, even if you stop the portal halfway.
That different because both sides of the ring are moving. The portal is not a ring because one end can be moving while the other is stationary. The object in the ring doesn't go flying for the same reason you don't teleport 15 feet away when you walk through a door. Basically what you're saying is "portals don't exist in real life" which is obvious.
For all intents of the purposes it does work just like a ring. The whole conserving momentum thing is kind of the point. As GLADoS said - Speedy thing goes in, speedy thing comes out. Box is not a speedy thing, thus it remains a non-speedy thing.
>How much would you weigh if the acceleration of gravity was half as much?
>well, I guess I'd weigh half as much then
>hurr durr, partially applying this universes physics to a hypothetical one is wrong user!
>f the acceleration of the cube as it exists the blue portal generates enough force to overcome gravity and the inertia of the cube, then the whole thing will fly out, even if you stop the portal halfway.
so we know you are wrong then
the portal just touching a tiny edge of the cube should not make it fly out
>The whole conserving momentum thing is kind of the point.
Yes but it's your relative momentum that's conserved. That's why if you go through a portal, you come out the other end facing the same direction relative to the portal. If it were relative to the world and not the portal, then if you went in a portal facing north, you'd always come out other end still facing north, which is obviously not the case.