why are meat eating robots such fucking hypocrites? i keep seeing these depressed whiny threads about how they want a gf, or have depression due to being a loser, or have been bullied, etc
yet these crocodile tear hypocrites eat meat and pay for animals to go through unimaginable suffering that dwarves anything they could potentially experience as a human. meat eaters trigger me, but ESPECIALLY robot meat eaters
theres literally no justification for it, you delusional hypocrite
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At least they arent the level of hypocrites that vegans are. They pretend to do any good for animals by just having a dietary restriction but in reality will eat plants fertilized by animals, and support farmers who kill birds and rodents
Robots don't have meat you mongoloid
Animals like pigs are incapable of emotions like empathy unlike us. You fucking idiot user
>you cant complain! Think of starving African children!
Just because you get BLACKED doesnt mean you can be a robot, moralfag
>At least they arent the level of hypocrites that vegans are
but vegans arent hypocrites, you moron. vegans dont pay for animals to be tortured, enslaved and needlessly killed for our amusement, unlike you
>but in reality will eat plants fertilized by animals
>animal manure tho
there is veganic farming, and unreasonable to ask vegans not to eat plants made from manure, as its literally inescapable. theres literally not enough vegetables and grains not grown from manure available. not to mention, theres no public information available on which plants use animal manure and which ones dont
>and support farmers who kill birds and rodents
its justified because they are invaders who are stealing our food. if we didnt kill them they'd eat all of our crops. if a human was doing the same thing, its perfectly fine to kill them. dont steal if you dont want to get shot. no hypocrisy there
fucking retard
>Animals like pigs are incapable of emotions like empathy unlike us
wrong. this is a anti-scientific claim. PLEASE show me scientific evidence to back up your claim or shut your ignorant ass up. heres actually science proving you wrong, moron
animals are sentient and conscious and experience emotions
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you are really fucking retarded arent you. there is no relation between the four panels at all. robots are guilty for being weak or weird and not standing up to themselves. nobody really thinks shit like that when eating meat, we just eat it because it's tasty.
>Robots don't have meat you mongoloid
do you mean eat meat? because so many people here claim to be "le autist virgin robot" yet they eat meat. its very common here
if you meant "have meat", i dont understand what you mean, that doesnt make any sense
God you're a fucking retard. I could easily shit on your weak example, but then you'd go on and say that plants feel pain and vegans are murderers. Hang off a tree bitch.
Vegans are the biggest hypocrites in the world when it comes to what they eat and what they believe in. You will literally eat anything fertilized by animals and allow your farmers to kill infinite rodents
I'm a big hypocrite and hate it. I claim I love animals yet I I'm not a vegan/vegetarian. Even after forcing myself to watch all the suffering I still eat meat twice a week and I'm too weak to change that. I tried being a vegetarian an few times but everytime i give up after 6 months. I can't justify it and never will.
Not eating meat is like being at the grocery store and having the exact amount of money at hand in order to make the line progress faster. This doesn't work, since the next person will probably take ages and the little time you saved becomes irrelevant.
The only solution to this problem is giving a sufficient alternative to meat that's cheaper because the people who care about animal cruelty are way too insignificant to make a change (like in the grocery store allegory).
Only retards here are the vegans. They pretend they dont require animal suffering for their diet but its the complete opposite
Look faggot. If I charged at you with a knife you'd feel an emotion right? Now, if I charge at a pig with a knife do you think it would have an emotional response? Yes, yes it would you moron.
I wasn't put on this world to be on somebodies plate, I was put onthis world to be schlomo nosebergs wage slave. Weird how leftoids are more concerned about pigs than human workers being exploited in their nations, probably just leftist useful idiots who are paid to change the leftwing from what it was originally meant to be into oh my god not the heckiinnnn porkerinooss!!!!
Peopel can't get a living wage or healthcare, but vegnoids are concerned about pigs, also this guy has been shilling this board for years, came to r9k for the first thing in years and I see this schizos threads again even though he was pretty btfo back then. There is no such thing as a vegan from birth.
>there is no relation between the four panels at all
yeah there is, its pointing out your HYPOCRISY
>WAAAA PEOPLE TREAT ME BADLY, I DONT LIKE THAT, ITS UNETHICAL
>heh, i dont care about the suffering of pigs, i love paying for them to die for my taste pleasure, lol
>nobody really thinks shit like that when eating meat, we just eat it because it's tasty.
well, obviously thats not true, because vegans think about this sort of shit and stop that behavior
its like a normie who enjoys bullying shy autistic kids at school saying "nobody cares about those losers, we just hurt them because its fun, lol"
are you so dumb that you cannot see the hypocrisy?
>robots are guilty for being weak or weird and not standing up to themselves
ahh, so might makes right?
so children who get raped and killed by pedophiles guilty of being weak and deserve what happened to them?
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veganic farming exists, which is free from animal manure, and as demand grows for vegan food, such vegetables will become more and more available. you are being a unreasonably retard, which is the only thing you are capable of being
Hey dumbass I said empathy, not fear. Animals who don't have a high level of intelligence like pigs are incapable of higher thinking and higher-level emotions.
meat is important to my diet, the damage i actually cause is minimal, i doubt you donate your entire paycheck to charity and im not hypocritical for causing suffering to others.
How do you measure emotions? Because trees respond to knives too
>unreasonable
Wow a vegan thinks preventing animal suffering is unreasonable
So dedicate your time to fighting injustices against other humans instead of farm animals.
I don't support any unnecessary mutilation or torture, and I recognize the meat industry is cruel, but we don't really have any other choice on a mass market scale.
I'm not a robot, I'm a chad and i eat raw meat. robots are inferior and should not be allowed to eat meat, maybe they should be butchered too instead.
vegans are just attention seekers, normal people don't think that sort of stuff. imagine being such a spoiled nigger that you really have to think about the places and methods your food comes from.
nice example. but children cannot really do anything in case a pedo decided to molest them. robots can change things, most if not all the time.
Real vegans don't exist because human civilization is built off the consumption of animals. Any participation in society is perpetuating the cycle.
The only way to become a true vegan is to leave human society and subsist off a solely plant based diet in a nature reserve, with no possessions outside of anything you hand crafted yourself.
Anything less is a cope and you are just as bad as the rest.
True vegans would also not be allowed to use computers or consume electricity because of how we get most powe
>vegans
cringe
cows, pigs, mice, even chickens have repeatedly demonstrated empathy. mice will literally save eachother if they hear another mouse is in distress or is in a trap and is suffering. they have empathy, you ignorant moron
>the damage i actually cause is minimal
you are financially supporting animals being killed for your taste pleasure. how is this moral, despite how little you do it?
if someone raped a child every year, and caused minimal damage compared to other rapists, does that make it okay?
>and im not hypocritical for causing suffering to others
i mean, you obviously are if you wouldnt mind being enslaved and killed for some superior race's taste pleasure
>How do you measure emotions?
brain scans. all mammals have functioning brains and functioning nervous systems. trees and plants DONT HAVE A BRAIN OR A NERVOUS SYSTEM. they dont have the biological infrastructure necessary to be able to suffer
>but we don't really have any other choice on a mass market scale.
>other people are doing it, so i have no choice but to participate!
maybe you have the choice to not be a hypocrite yourself and go vegan?
>plants dont suffer the way I approve of!!!!!
And animals dont suffer the way most people care about. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter and do some good in the world you hypocrite
plants dont suffer at all because to be able to suffer you need to be able to experience emotions. and to experience emotions you need a functional brain, you fucking moron
plants dont have a brain. bacteria respond to stimuli in the same way that plants do, but bacteria dont suffer or experience emotions
Fuck all animals, humans are superior.
You can't put animals on the same scale as humans that immediatly makes your argument utter nonsense.
Take your hypocrisy and shove it up your ass until you actually help out your fellow man and learn empathy
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I'm a vegetarian and have been for 10+ years. I'm mainly veggie because i just don't really like meat itself, not for ethical reasons. I ate vegan for a while whenever I was with a past gf because she was vegan and it was fine. I might go vegan if i finally one day get my life on track and move out. Might not go full vegan if i can find local milk/eggs that i know isn't mistreating animals though.
>Weird how leftoids are more concerned about pigs than human workers being exploited in their nations,
first of all, lumping all vegans into leftist is wrong. theres tons of vegans who are ultra-right wingers and post stuff about hitler being vegan
second of all, humans have human rights and laws protecting them. there are huge agencies that stop human exploitation, human trafficing and slavery. theres no laws protecting animals from being killed for your taste pleasure, retard
>probably just leftist useful idiots who are paid to change the leftwing from what it was originally meant to be into oh my god not the heckiinnnn porkerinooss!!!!
>implying theres any money in veganism
the largest food companies are animal based ones. tyson farms, mcdonalds, the list goes on. purely vegetable products dont make money. theres no money in broccoli and sweet potatoes, you crocodile tears hypocrite
cry harder about how your boss bullies you, while you pay for animals to be killed for your taste pleasure. yeah, its not like theres any hypocrisy in your actions, retard
>how is this moral, despite how little you do it?
i dont care if its moral. it benefits me. i do feel bad for them just not enough to make huge changes in my life just like you dont give away all your money to charity.
>you obviously are if you wouldnt mind being enslaved and killed for some superior race's taste pleasure
i would mind because that wouldnt benefit me. how does that make me hypocritical? i never said enslaving is good or bad.
>You can't put animals on the same scale as humans that immediatly makes your argument utter nonsense.
okay. whats the difference between humans and animals that makes it okay to enslave and kill animals for meat, when its not okay to kill humans for meat?
>Adverts for food places are the equivalent of advertising carnivorous diets. The media makes you want to kill animals.
I've thought about vegetarianism and a little bit about veganism a decent amount, but I've never put any real research into it due to people like you and other social activists going as far as to just make shit up. You're all just so fucking crazy, you drive people away but you're too short sighted to even see it.
>i would mind because that wouldnt benefit me. how does that make me hypocritical? i never said enslaving is good or bad.
exactly. its like saying
>"i dont mind enslaving and killing black people because it financially benefits me. but i'd have a problem with being a slave and killed for someone else's financial profit because that wouldn't benefit me"
your standards for what's okay to do apply differently towards different people. you have double standards, which is the fucking dictionary definition of hypocrisy, you moron, look at the picture here
Human meat makes you sick. Animal meat doesn't :>
>okay. whats the difference between humans and animals that makes it okay to enslave and kill animals for meat, when its not okay to kill humans for meat?
Why are animals such as lions allowed to kill other species, why are we, as the smarter more powerfful species not actively stopping that from happening?
What gives animals the right to kill and eat other animals, but its forbidden for humans to do so?
Also cannibalism almost never occurs except in times when there is no other food. Animals dont just eat other members of their species for no reason either.
Funny how you only care about a random pig who would die anyway in the wild but you completely ignore the suffering of workers, you fucking Jew
no i clearly apply the same standard which is does it benefit me
>Animal meat doesn't :>
animal meat causes cancer. meat consumption causes diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, and obesity. how does animal meat not make you sick?
>okay. whats the difference between humans and animals that makes it okay to enslave and kill animals for meat, when its not okay to kill humans for meat?
Life of a human>Life of an animal.
Die mad, sissy.
We heard it here first lads, if you eat meat your gonna end up with 50+ tumors growing in your cock (not the animal)
>workers
god you're dumb. WORKERS by the fucking definition are doing it voluntarity. you are not being exploited, you VOLUNTARILY agreed to work at your job. you arent a slave, you have rights protecting you from unfair treatment, and laws protecting you from being exploited or doing dangerous work, and all kinds of shit
pigs, cows and chickens dont. black people during slavery also had no rights. you have rights protecting you already, and tons of organizations that are centered around protecting you, you ignorant retard
thats a double standard, retard
your standards cannot be "if it benefits me, its moral. if it doesnt, its immoral". it doesnt work that way, retard
This but unironically.
Why are carnists so fucking dumb
you already said that. i asked you WHY, and you didnt answer my fucking question
Excuse moi but arent there rules for animal keeping too?
I get that most establishments violate them but...
Eh
Yeah, yeah, we're all going to die within 3 days of eating half a sausage.
Not denying red meat causes cancer, but why do you guys try to make everyone think that meat is somehow super toxic to humans. If you guys were just honest instead of divisive you'd get so much more followings, rather than just being seen as the equivalent to a hysteric feminist.
insulting me isnt an argument you need to demonstrate how its a double standard
I'm not even a vegan and I think bacon is overrated. Seriously, what is it with people and bacon??
I could probably live without eating pork or beef ever. I need chicken though, as a lean protein source..
"doing energetically to the field of consciousness in which we are all living"
Hold on, lemme just activate my chakras to figure out what the fuck that image is even trying to convey.
What the fuck is wrong with you user.
>Excuse moi but arent there rules for animal keeping too?
no. its perfectly legal to enslave and kill animals for financial profit. and its perfectly legal for you to pay for meat, which supports the industry, because you derive pleasure from the suffering of animals
its illegal to pay for someone to kill a human. its illegal to pay for someone to enslave a human. slavery of humans for financial profit is illegal
but not for animals
>Yeah, yeah, we're all going to die within 3 days of eating half a sausage.
smoking cigarettes isnt going to kill your immediately after, and theres a good probability you will never get cancer. but smoking still causes cancer, in the same way meat causes cancer, and diabetes, and obesity, and clogged arteries
>Not denying red meat causes cancer, but why do you guys try to make everyone think that meat is somehow super toxic to humans
>Not denying smoking cigarettes causes cancer, but why do you guys try to make everyone think that cigarettes is somehow super toxic to humans
do you even read your own posts before posting it?
>If you guys were just honest instead of divisive you'd get so much more followings
what did i say that was dishonest? i literally just posted science and the truth
I haven't. It's my first post ITT.
Human life having more worth to a human than any other is pretty much an axiom, any person without major mental impairments knows that it just is.
But I see that a vegan can have a problem with this kind of thing.
Due to it being cut thinly before being stored, the meat tends to be heavily salted, making it have a very strong taste, aside the already powerful taste from smoking the meat. The larger surface area/volume ratio also makes it more tasteful, same reason those ridged crisps taste better.
Hippie-dippie bullshit about vibes or something, I dunno.
>Human life having more worth to a human than any other is pretty much an axiom, any person without major mental impairments knows that it just is.
i didnt ask if you value humans more than animals, i asked for the specific difference between humans and animals that make it okay to enslave and kill one for your pleasure, but not the other
for example, i dont value the mentally retarded the same as i do normal humans. i dont value strangers the same as my family.
but just because i dont value them doesnt mean i think they are not moral agents or dont have moral significance. just because i dont value them doesnt mean i think its okay to enslave and kill them for my pleasure
What he means by that is he doesnt value them on the same level, animals are obviously below humans but the mentally impaired, strangers etc arent on the same level as animals, neither on the same level as their loved ones
Its really not that hard to understand user
Anyone who's vegan and cares about animal cruelty is fucking retarded, animals kill other animals all the time, you always keep talking about how smart and emotional animals can be yet you know they won't hesitate to kill for a meal.
No one who's worth their weight in salt should claim something as unethical because they get bullied, you're mostly just knocking on fourteen year olds like yourself and other non existent strawmen.
Why are plant eaters such hypocrites? Plants have feelings too.
You know these threads are just making everyone hate vegans, right? It makes me want to stop eating meat even less than I did before I read this.
you still DODGED THE FUCKING QUESTION
i understand you value diffent groups of sentient beings differently. i understand you value humans more than animals. i understand if you value different races differently. i understand if you value different people differently
but i assume you are against the enslavement, torture and killing of human beings despite how much you value them
and i asked for the specific difference between humans and animals that make it okay to enslave and kill one for your pleasure, but not the other, and you STILL DIDNT ANSWER
>but the mentally impaired, strangers etc arent on the same level as animals
>on the same level as animals
what does "on the same level as animals" even mean? what level? intelligence?
are you saying that since animals are intelligent its okay to enslave and kill them for your pleasure?
is it okay to enslave and kill mentally retarded people for your pleasure? the mentally retarded are on the same level of intelligence as dogs or pigs, if not dumber
if you wouldnt be okay with enslaving and killing the mentally retarded for your pleasure because they are not smart, but are okay to kill animals for your pleasure because they are not smart, you are not being LOGICALLY CONSISTENT, which is my whole fucking point
Stupid argument, actually.
Have you ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty"?
Why is it okay to kill and eat a pig that has never harmed a soul?
You might as well kill all white people for causing the Holocaust.
This whole debate is fucking retarded, nobody is going to change their mind here anyways, screaming at someone whos already made his mind up sure as fuck aint gonna change anything
It's his obsession. He's autistic and this is his outlet. Was previously tech related stuff.
Speak for yourself. These threads only make me realize how dilusional other meat-eaters are.
I am a meat-eater myself, but I can easily make arguments FOR and AGAINST veganism. But these threads are only filled with dilusional idiots who are trying to cope about their meat addictions.
This is true, but posting it is equally meta-wrong due to the reasons you just stated.