Nice Guy/Friendzone Thread

I don't know why "nice guy" has such a negative connotation. It makes no sense to me at all.

Because it refers to people who believe that they need to show girls that they're nice a couple of times to get sex from them, and usually get angry afterwards when that (shockingly) doesn't work out. Nice people are lovely, "nice guys" are the worst.

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>everythings a game and its like i cant just be a genuine person and relax
This peeves me the most. There's nothing genuine about romantic relationships or love. When you are making friends, your personality matters so much. Yet, when you're trying to court a woman, it's all about how physically attractive you are and how well you can pretend to have character traits that women deem manly. You need to read books about female psychology to even hope for maintaining a marriage and averting divorce.
Best of all, women worry about none of this. They get to relax completely and be themselves without having to censor their personalities or hide their interests to find a partner. They can just completely let go and allow themselves to be loved and cared for.
Opting out of it all is a completely rational and sane response, to be honest.

slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/

thats a bit long but it explains it perfectly. feminist women online complained about nice guys and it eventually became a huge meme all over the internet to do it.

>nice guys

Are typically bad beause its a clear indication that the 'nice guy' doesnt understand the world. Think autism or just plain dumb

Firstly, theyre too feminised. They think women want a man thats loyal like a dog, plays nintendo switch and consumes onions milk. They dont understand social conventions so they assume they want chivalry. Someone whos really suave but also bids to do anything their woman wants them to. They have no spine, no aggression, no drive, nothing. All they can offer is to do all their bidding. Which is the complete opposite of what a man should represent.

Why can't women understand that relationships and emotions and partnerships are a thing, and view everything in either getting/giving material shit, or getting/giving sex?

I appreciate how you expressed this. I believe the distinction boils down to whether or not you're a good man versus a "nice guy." I personally don't mind "nice guys" (I mean, I wouldn't hang with them) seeing as they make dating a breeze for those of us that are genuinely good men.

>They dont understand social conventions so they assume they want chivalry. Someone whos really suave but also bids to do anything their woman wants them to.
That sounds like an admirable guy to me, I'd date him if I was a chick, sounds like a straight up romance novel character, what's wrong with women that they don't like that?

Case in point. Women dont want a wet noodle boyfriend that does everything the woman asks. Its the opposite of masculinity. It shows they have no drive, no spine, no autonomy, they dont and wont stick up for themselves. They likely wont stick up for the girl if a mugger appears on the street. Limp dick boyfriend

>That sounds like an admirable guy to me
You're looking at this from the perspective of a man, so of course you think you'd date him as a woman. Put yourself in the shoes of a woman and it sounds completely repulsive. You can find those traits in anyone more attractive than what was being described.