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Whatever the FUCK it takes edition

/Fraud/ is a thread dedicated to the safe use of AAS, PEDS, peptides, etc.
Before asking your stupid beginner questions, please read ALL of reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki
To acquaint yourself with general knowledge. Then leave ASAP cause Reddit’s gay lol

Oral only cycles are fucking STUPID. You need a test base so that the effects are amplified and the hepatoxicity is worth it. Always use a test base, don't fall for the retards in a certain faceberg group shilling deca only.

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK!

If you’re going to ask for cycle advice, please include
>age
>time spent training
>BF %
>height/weight
>penis length and girth
>monthly income

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Gonna do a long cruise with 200mg testo, 200mg primo. Any thoughts? When blasting I'll add 400mg primo and dbol, winnie or Var. Price is not a concern.

Out of interest why primo on the cruise?

It gives clean and lean gains. Unlike testo which bloats. Testo is like filling the muscle with water, primo is like sand - if that makes sense.

Yeah fair enough. Would mast not be cheaper and possibly better for strength?

Primo and mast can't really be compared. Mast has more side effects, is weaker in regards to muscle building and price is not a concern for me. The price difference is negible.

What supplement can be used in addition to my daily 3 hour bike ride to burn fat and become a shredded cunt

This is a thread for steroids. Go away.

based retard

I have 10×1ml sust 150 tbols and 50 halos. Will this be enough to get me excruciating painful back pumps?
Also ordered 20 ius of hgh. What dose is that taken in?

Stop doing your 3 hour bike ride if you want to be shredded rather than a shred

>burn fat.
>3 hour bike ride
Just don't eat like an American. Unless you are obese in which case I would recommend adderall and alli

you're better off doing high intensity cardio for a shorter period of time in addition to changing your diet while you keep lifting
High intensity 30-45 minute bike ride where you keep your heart rate above 160 for most of it.

Thanks

You need to tell us what the mg/ml is for the sust.

Lmao at ordering hgh without knowing how to dose it. 4 ius is a good starting dose. However, you should buy around 200-300 ius of hgh if you're planning on using it. Also have fun with hgh gut.

no problem, in terms of fat burning supplements stay the fuck away from DNP, you can do clen start at 40mcg and work up to as high as 120. It will give you some jitters at first but your body will adjust
Clen is not a magical fat burning thing, it helps though when combined with a good diet and regular exercise.

Clen is shit. Salbutamol dose the same without cardio toxicity. Man I swear you guys are stuck in the early 2000's with the knowledge. When did you last look up research on the compounds you are using?

That would be a good guess, I'm 33 around 2005 is when I started so yeah, I've been sticking with what I know.

Wish I had heard the bit about “not a magical fat burner” sooner. Clen has been sold as this magic pill, and after getting up to 160ug a day I wasn’t losing any weight
I was also cruising, so I’m not sure if I needed more androgens to really speed it up, but it was very underwhelming

Im a retard that's been bitten by the test God.

been two weeks since the end of my blast... ordered more test which should be here in a few days, if its anything like my last shipment.

Should I take the start of my PTC untill the test arrives or nah? So far no loss of energy or strength in the gym.

You haven't injected test in two weeks? Unless you have test d, your levels are like 150 tops rn.

I had and getting Test E.
The plan WAS to start my PTC today, but I want to cruise instead.

Trying to figure out what will fuck my hormones the least.
The way i see it, by the time the test arrives i should be arround 75-100, which shouldnt be a massive issue.

I will be cruising on 150

Don't start PCT if you plan on cruising anyways, dude...
That would fuck your HPTA/body even more now

alright fellas if you were held at gunpoint and told to choose a monocycle, of either oxa or primo, which would you choose? Why?

Skip the pct, look up the Harleem study. Pct is a scam. Doesn't work.

That is what i was concerned about. I wanted second opinions to ensure i wasn't being thicker than I already am.

God damn fucking shit. How fucking hard is it to realize that you need a test base? If you're that concerned just run 150-200mg test weekly and add both Anavar and Primo.

Eh I'm on TRT and I love what it's done for me, but my levels were 300-400 at 18. I dont think there was ever any chance of normal test levels. If I were you, I would consider what my test levels were before cruising.

Jabbing needles every week for the rest of your life is pretty daunting.
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Starting my first big bulking cycle. I've done 600mg deca 400mg test with a dbol kickstart for the only other "big and wet" bulking cycle I've done.

Going on 25mg trest ace, 25mg npp EOD with 50mg test U EW. Yes I have letro, I'm only a little retarded.

Anybody else try a similar stack of MENT/NPP? I've heard it is quite powerful.

thing is i wouldn't like to do test because of the side effects due to aromatization, the shutting down of the hormone production, etc. I wouldnt want to feel like a weak woman for a month after ive done my cycle.
I'd rather just pop a pill a day for x amounts of weeks and then just stop and return to normal. sounds comfy

With how little research you put into imbibing life endangering compounds... I think you should do 25mg halotestin ED for 16 weeks.

You've got some learning to do, son.

Any exogenous hormone is going to kill your endogenous production. Doesn't matter if it's a pill or not.

Test at 150mg wont give you any aromatizing.

Also this shit is for life. You won't just do one cycle.

Come back in 2 months when you've actually read the wiki.

>Also this shit is for life. You won't just do one cycle.

Very true, it's to god damn mentally addicting.

Jabbing needles subq daily for super stable blood levels isn't that much of a hassle. It takes me 2 minutes lol.

Why be a weak normie when you can be an enhanced superhuman? Natty life sucks donkey dicks. I haven't had doms since my second pin.

i guess you're right. there's a guy on yt that does explains a lot of these substances and he basically says that oxa, primo and stanozolol dont really need a PCT and you're fine just having that by itself.

Irregardless, you're right. I got some thinking, and some researching to do. Thanks guys!

if someone says that a muscle building compounding doesn't require a PTC is selling you snake oil, that or they are retarded

I mean, i guess you're right. But what about olympic lifters? they constantly get popped for stanozolol, oxa, etc., but never for PCT substances. I doubt they even do any. And they're able to lift huge weights even after cycles. FOr example, they would cut stanozolol 8 months before a meet (after blasting like crazy), and train regularly, and perform well in meets.
And i'd link the guy on yt, but it's in (european) spanish.

Look up the Harleem study. Pct is bullshit.