/FAST - Man Meat edition

>A discussion of intermittent fasting, snake juice fasting, water fasting, and dry fasting.
discord.gg/sG4vTsz

What’s the difference between intermittent fasting, snake juice fasting, water fasting, dry fasting, etc?
>Intermittent fasting: fasting daily with a short eating window. 16:8 (16 hour fast, 8 hour eating window) is the minimum.
>snake juice fasting: fasting with water mixed with electrolytes
>Water fasting: Fasting with only water.
>Dry fasting: Fasting with no water. Dangerous, use with caution.

Why should I fast?
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160/
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11147801
>idmprogram.com/difference-calorie-restriction-fasting-fasting-27/
>youtube.com/watch?v=APZCfmgzoS0

How do I safely do an extended fast?
>Take snake juice, or supplement electrolytes.
>Water=2L
>Potassium chloride =1 to 1.5 tsp (No Salt)
>Sodium chloride = 1 to 1.5 tsp (Himalayan Pink Salt/table salt)
>Optional: Sodium Bicarbonate = 1 tsp (Baking Soda), recommended for longer fasts or breaking dry fasts.
>Optional: Magnesium - DO NOT use Epsom, it is a laxative, a 300mg citrate or glycinate supplement is best, or DIY Mag Bicarb (see discord sticky)
>Mix and sip throughout the day, don't drink all at once. You'll shit yourself.
>Also optional: drink some apple cider vinegar and lemon juice, 1 or 2 tsp in the snake juice, or separate. Use a straw.

Won’t I go into starvation mode?
>No. The mainstream definition of starvation mode is a myth.

Will (something with calories) break my fast?
>Yes.

Can I drink coffee, tea?
> Yes, if you are a sensitive individual too much caffiene can raise cortisol too much, YMMV.

Can I have diet soda? Or anything with artificial sweeteners?
>You can do whatever you want. We recommend avoiding those, because they may increase insulin secretion.

Do I need a multivitamin?
>No (for a prolonged fast exceeding 1 week, nutritional yeast or a B-Complex is suggested)

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I am suppose to do my OMAD in a couple hours. Was ravenously hungry but now I'm not. I lifted a lot of heavy things today too. Idk what do, in a weird predicament.

I wonder how many dogs he's wearing.

about tree fiddy

that's a photoshop.

How long can I fast without needing to take snake juice, drinking only water?
I accidentally fasted for 30h this week. Think I gonna go for 36h once a week now, maybe 48h if it's safe.

why wouldn't you want to drink it? just drink it

I'm almost finished my first week bros, I've been a steady 16:8 hovering around 2k cals daily, working out intermittently as well comprising of mostly cardio and a bit of lifting since monday. I was 370 at the worst (6'1) and I was 360 a couple days ago, can't wait to weigh on monday!

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16 days fasting 8 days more 0 calories daily you fuckin pig

kek, sorry I'm not retarded

Been doing OMAD for 5 days and finished a 43 hour fast. Probably could have kept going but I was starting to feel tired. Been drinking snake juice too and I really like it. Is it normal to hit a wall around the 40 hour mark and be tired? I took a nap too but didn't feel much difference after.

I'd say keep fasting. I was at the 23 hour mark and I was not even remotely hungry. Kept going all the way to 43. just listen to your body and wait until you start salivating at the thought of food.

Thoughts on PSMF? I tried it with IF/OMAD this past week and gained 2 lbs.
Recently extended fasting has been the only thing to push me past my weightloss stall. I've pulled off two 5-day fasts over the last four weeks.

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i broke it. didnt want to ruin the MPS of the heavy lifting. was already feeling sore

I only made it 18 hrs today b4 I caved and ate something I feel shitty.

at 47 hours rn, about to sleep and when I wake up it'll be almost 60 hours.

I might just stop there but I'll see how I feel in the morning and maybe I'll continue the fast and try and make it to 72 hours

I find it hard to sleep when fasting, but also in need of less sleep in general

Anyone else?

yeah.
hormonal stuff happening.
your body is getting into hunter mode

yea sleeping on an empty stomach isn't easy

Sorry I have to post again. This is a cry for help from a fucked up user.

I literally can’t go a single day on keto let alone eating under maintenance let alone fasting.

I am ready to quit my job and literally lock myself in my bedroom because I’m so disgusted with myself. I’ve attempted suicide but I just don’t have it in me to return to my anorexia and orthorexia. I’ve become addicted to binge eating and if I don’t lose all this weight in a month I’m going to attempt again.

I have hopes and dreams I can’t accomplish without returning to the weight in the first picture. Life isn’t worth living without being like that again.

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How salty is snake juice supposed to taste? I feel like mine is a bit too salty, but I don't have anything to compare it to.

Only one thing that stopped me from binge eating and ordering 2 pizzas for a nighttime snack:

MEAL PREP.

Having ready to microwave prepped healthy meals are your safety net protecting you from eating loads of shit.

I've started having nightmares about accidentally eating food on my fast, I've even almost done it a couple of times preparing dinner for my family (I have a habit of tasting/seasoning as I go)

Church!

Last night I forgot to defrost my ground turkey and I had no other protein sources available, so I ended up ordering sushi.

I made damn sure that Turkey was defrosted and ready today for my week's meal prep of Turkey Chili.

Chili is legit my favorite meal prep and cutting food. Easy to make, easy to plate, easy to eat, tastes fucking delicious. I gots my proteins, carbos, some natty fattys, and a ton of fiber to help me dutch oven the wife later.

i have some black skin marks after i was ill for some years but i am now healthy.

is long term fast good to heal such a condition?

I just did 7 days a couple months ago. Stop being a bitch

What are you talking about? When fasting all i pretty much want to do is sleep. Easy af to fall asleep

What role does insulin play in weight loss? I though it was just CICO?

It is CICO but high insulin/insulin resistance can lead to lowered calories out, more fat less muscle, lowered energy and increased hunger

Why the fuck am I still so tired after breaking my fast. It's been like 20 hours since I started eating again and I still feel weak as fuck.

I wanna do some cardio AHHH

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>broke fast on day 4 yesterday unnecessarily
>still 0.9kg away from my fasted weight
Fuuckk I need to make it 7 days, I need to make it 7 days.

Progress so far! (updated it yesterday)

Have cycled between lots of different things here, EF, ADF, OMAD, low kcal, low carb, Keto, etc.
All of these tools have worked, but in the last couple of months I've settled on a low carb - omad.
It feels like more like a lifestyle than a diet, which I think is key when it comes to sustainability.

Was originally planning on hitting the gym at this point, but everything is closed.
I've got some dumbbells though, so will try to work out a bit at home.

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You look good at 75kg mate. Don't let body dysmorphia turn you anorexic.