PPL or Bro-Split

Which one do you prefer?

Inb4 post body

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full body
ppl is the dumbest meme eve

i do bro split 4days a week but i add the opposite movement 3x10 + rows on lower/back day, pullups on shoulders/pecs day
worked like a wonder till some chink made a soup

ex :
Deadlifts, Squats, Rows, more rows, shitton of curls
Bench, OHP, pullup, dips, incline flyes, skullcrushers

shit goes :
Back + 3x10 squat
Bench + 3x10 ohp
rest
Legs + 3x10 deads
OHP + 3x10 bench
cardio abs
rest

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The dog. The fag in the reflection looks like shit

Arnold split: shoulders/back, legs, shoulders, arms done 2x a week.

PPL is what I did for a long time and it just kept me stalled with gains in torso and leg size but not arms which are more important imo

Should be chest/back not shoulders/back. My b OP

I’ve been doing full body 3 and sometimes 4 times a week for a long time. I think I’m gonna switch to upper lower 2 times each a week instead because I feel like I’m stalling.

PPL

The people who hate PPL like
are fatsos who do not have enough stamina

full body everyday

Post routine.

yeah, decrease frequency, I'm sure that will solve the problem

You being serious or sarcastic?

I have done every routine people online talk about, brosplit, fullbody, upper-lower, PPL, etc over the last 8 years.

The difference in aesthetics between each routine has been negligible.

What’s made the biggest change for me aesthetic wise is counting calories and getting lean.

sarcastic, doing more will always be better than doing less

Not true

No, true. Volume requirements go up as you get more advanced. The reason why bros can do bro splits and still get jacked is because they just keep doing more and more as they go along

Not true.

Plenty of normies do 100 sets of Curls a week and have 12 inch arms

If you start with 100 sets of curls, then you'll have to increase from there. Your body adapts to what you give it. Not to mention that curls are supplemental at best and most normies don't have a good diet and/or aren't consistent with actually going to the gym. 100 sets of curls once a week won't do anything

3 day full body (or 4 depending on programming) or 4 day upper lower

ppl are gonna say do just 1 set but i dont.
4x20 bench Supersetted with flies
4x20 Barbell rows
4x20 tricep pulldown with cables triset overhead extension one arm each then barbell bicep curls
4x15 barbell shoulder press
4x20 side lateral
4x20 leg curl
Calf raises inbetween different movements. Quads and glutes get worked enough at my manual labor job is what i tell myself.

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literally post body of research that shows this

Nope wrong again.

There’s no 1 best methodology for training.

You need a nice balance of volume, intensity and frequency.

Are you joking right now? This is established very thoroughly in the research. Look at a sheiko program for a master in sports lifter vs an intermediate. Every increase in advancement is meet with an increase in volume

>volume, intensity and frequency.
You do, but that doesn't mean volume isn't the most important, because it is. As you get more advanced average intensity will decrease and volume overall will increase in order to compensate

Again. Not true, or professional athletes would be doing thousands of sets a week.

Volume is increased and decreased training block to training block, along side intensity and frequency.

You build up volume and overreach as intensity decreases with it, then you cut volume and begin slowly increasing intensity.

>PPL is not a program! What makes a program are the parameters.

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Progressive overload takes many forms.

>Again. Not true, or professional athletes would be doing thousands of sets a week.
No, because while volume increases are required, they aren't as drastic as that
>Volume is increased and decreased training block to training block, along side intensity and frequency.

>You build up volume and overreach as intensity decreases with it, then you cut volume and begin slowly increasing intensity.

What you're describing is linear periodization, which isn't very popular these days

So how much weekly volume are you doing, hot shot?

Me? I'm doing nuckols 1x int deadlift, 2x int squat and 3x int medium bench
Sure, but you either increase intensity, or increase volume, and increasing volume works significantly better

>Following nuckols
>Intermediate
Yup, you know tons about exercise science and stuff I can tell.

>how to spot a novice

You can get more volume in an upper lower than you can full body. Oh top of more quality sets.

Quality Volume > Frequency > Intensity

PPL is technically the best for this.

I mean, if you honestly think that linear periodization is great and that you shouldn't increase volume then what do you know?

I know that you're an idiot and that you over value volume.

Change up your routine whenever you stop seeing results or you get bored with your current one. As long as you’re following a workout routine you will be getting some kind of results from it. I’ve done PPL and bro splits and full body workouts and I’ve done 1 body part per day and got something from all of them. I’m currently doing a 2 on/1 off bro split for summer because it’s easier for me to stay lean on a bro split. Besides, only literal faggots are concerned about what another man is doing with his body.

>You can get more volume in an upper lower than you can full body. Oh top of more quality sets.
There's no evidence that this is true
Do you have any evidence for this? Because every program made by a legit powerlifting coach is going to be high in volume and low in intensity

Bros trying to show off for researchers is why studies are fairly inaccurate

Show me 1 impressive bodybuilder that got his physique from doing full body routines.

>Bros trying to show off for researchers
I'm not talking about studies, I'm talking about applications. High level, successful coaches designed programs that are relatively high in volume and relatively low in intensity.

Pro bodybuilders are a walking pharmaceutical. If you eat a shitload of food and do a lot of volume (see a pattern?) you'll get big