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Anthony Lee
I'm just talking about the specific programs themselves that are usually posted here. E.g. 3x bench, 2x squat, and 1x dead for intermediate (hence 1-3x) and 4x bench, 2x squat and 2x deadlift (hence 2-4x)
And what do you think of the Norwegian powerlifting programs (by Dietmar Wolf), which have the Norwegian team doing incredibly high frequency programming?
Brody Perry
Based Wendler
Robert Walker
Unfortunately for you, Sheiko kind of throws a whole wrench into your whole idea. Because with how the fatigue is accumulated, you're basically never fully recovered for any session
Jacob Peterson
You don't have to fully recover to improve dude, it doesn't even remotely invalidate my opinions on recovery.
James Gonzalez
You seemed quite insistent on recovering fully between sessions in the last thread. However, once you get advanced enough (honestly not even that far into being an intermediate lifter), your ability to progress by going balls to the wall and waiting until you're fully recovered won't work because the stimulus is going to be too much for your body to recover from AND elicit substantial adaptation because the fitness you gain will dissipate by the time you're back to normal (in the vast majority of cases anyway, roidaroos freaks like Lilibridge being an obvious exception). Thoughts on Dietmar Wolf's programming like I asked in ?
Bentley Hughes
I was mostly arguing that there is little point in doing that kind of training when you can get almost the same benefit when not lifting while still fatigued or doms or whatever you want to call it, a non-fully-recovered state.
If I'm squatting 205 and hit my legs with deadlift/squats 4x a month in total, 2 squat 2 deadlift, its pretty fucking safe to say I'm not at that genetic wall where training while fatigued would be needed or even beneficial.
Ethan Bennett
>If I'm squatting 205 and hit my legs with deadlift/squats 4x a month in total, 2 squat 2 deadlift, its pretty fucking safe to say I'm not at that genetic wall where training while fatigued would be needed or even beneficial. Except that you would already be miles past where you are if you didn't insist on being completely, 100% recovered for every session. There's more to lifting than just muscular development. You don't retain motor patterns nearly as well with such an incredibly low frequency.
Mason Powell
>You don't retain motor patterns nearly as well with such an incredibly low frequency.
Ever pick something up off the floor? Do you intentionally try and use flat footed squatting form to do so? I do lol... gotta harness your autism bro.
Caleb Jenkins
Also miles my ass, I've gone from squatting 135 failing at the 10th rep on the last set to doing 205 in 4 months. Training fatigued may have increased that very slightly. I squat TWICE a month.
Samuel Rodriguez
Squatting with a barbell on your back isn't the same thing. Motor patterns vary with moving the bar even 3 inches down your back, do you think they won't be different when you pick something off the floor? Motor patterns matter just as much as muscle mass does.
205 for...?
Jose Barnes
one warmup set of 5-6 then three sets of 10. I try and use a weight where doing an 11th would be impossible or I would break form horribly to finish.
Easton Sanchez
Have you ever actually given SS a try? Frequency also matters for mobility too, not just motor patterns. Obviously one can't say your gains would have stayed at the same rate or that you wouldn't have stalled, but 16 weeks of SS is a lot more than 70 lbs added to your squat. I personally went from 205 3x5 to 280 3x5 in about 2 months before tearing my pecs squatting. I was pretty much at the end of SS but having to run it again once I was fully healed, I got back to 275 in about a month. 2 months of intermediate, more periodized programming once you finish your newbie gains is no joke, and would have done a lot to both your strength and muscle mass.
Caleb Rodriguez
Good for you, but 205x10 doesn't mean shit on the platform.
Brayden James
>tearing my pecs squatting How did you manage that?
Alexander Miller
Eh well it was the end of january up until today, so more like 3 months. I'll probably stall at 205 for a while while I work on my depth, I get a lot weaker past parallel and it saps my strength very quickly. If I need to adjust to lower reps and more sets to progress once my mobility issues are cleared I will, I don't know if that's the case because its still new training to me.
I don't have a platform I have a power rack in my room.
Ian Davis
Bad form in some aspects of my squat and grinding the absolute end of SS which obviously wasn't the best idea. Mostly from the former though. I was just bending the bar across my back instead of trying to pull it down and shoving my elbows forward.
Jacob Brooks
>Its another rippletits circlejerk episode waiting to properly recover before the next workout is maddox's method, though his programming is different with usually a high intensity lift, the lower volume/speed youtu.be/KbIL9FMKR08
I've never had to apply much force to the bar with my arms whether I do low or high, seems kind of strange that you need to.
John Martinez
>Get a lot weaker past parallel That's normal, sticking point for most people is just out of the hole on squats. And if you don't train going to PL depth at minimum then you'll be very weak there
Which user were you, Mr. New Trip?
It accomplishes two things when done correctly. 1. It keeps your chest from caving 2. It keeps your upper back musculature tight You should be doing it for better force transfer.
Jace Richardson
It's such a waste of time to argue with somebody who has never even stepped on the competition platform.
Josiah Mitchell
Also, Maddox is a world class lifter. The stimulus his body receives from such heavy weight is very different than the stimulus a novice lifter receives. It's why I said Lilibridge is an exception as well.
Levi James
Dude I can squat with my fucking pinkies on the bar and my arms totally relaxed, I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.
Do you not have traps?
Chest from caving? Dude my chest doesn't cave in that's what ribs are for.
Keeps your upper back musculature tight? Dude I can flex my traps and shoulders to hold the bar in place without using force through my arms at all and its what I'm already used to doing..
Colton Watson
bench press is the best gauge of RAW PHYSICAL STRENGTH. you only downplay this because you're a pudgy, weak little shit of a manlet with an equally embarrassing bench press.
nobody gives a shit that you can bounce your morbidly obese gut off of your legs for your little bullshit wide stance "squat". nobody cares about your 5 inch ROM sumo "deadlift".
Actually I just realized its probably because I have awesome knurling on an expensive bar that grips tightly to my back and also I'm using pussy weight still so it probably doesn't even matter until I get to higher weights.
Luke Morales
the strongest obviously. im doubting it was a tear at all, and probably something like a strain. a minor tear at worse. Did you get an MRI? theres also lots of low shoulder mobility roiders out there that haven't had a chest tear from squatting, so im having a hard time believing you unless you really are prone to injury from physical activity. you said advanced lifters, and i just figured id bring it up since its out there. lilibrige didn't wait four or five days between workouts. should be easy to follow on his ig. to see what he did based on the frequency of heavy days posted! i did mention that maddox's programming is different where its not a "balls to the wall" single for every workout. josh isnt a retard
>Chest from caving? Dude my chest doesn't cave in that's what ribs are for. Upper back collapse is very common if you allow your elbows to shoot upward and/or if you look down
>Keeps your upper back musculature tight? Dude I can flex my traps and shoulders to hold the bar in place without using force through my arms at all It's less about holding the bar in place and more about reinforcing torso rigidity
Assuming you mean you have a rogue opb, yeah the knurl on it is great but you're missing out on lots of force transfer by not doing it. I can't think of a single high level powerlifter or coach that wouldn't bring it up in a tutorial about squatting.
>Strongest of all G-G-Grizzly? But actually, who? Koreabro?
>Doubt MRI confirmed tears at the myotendinous junction of both pecs. Minor tears, but tears nonetheless.
Landon Cook
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Nolan Rodriguez
Also, not only were they tears, but they were torn scar tissue, meaning I had actually torn them in the same place prior. I'm pretty sure I remember the first time it happened, I just didn't put two and two together until I was informed about it
