Meat is no longer necessary, or even beneficial

>It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864

not to mention that a plant based diet is (from my experience, and that of many others, though this might depend on where you live) cheaper than one containing animal products. it is also more compassionate to the animals, healthier, and better for the environment. the only concerns they express seem to be a possible deficiency of B12, which has been known forever, and is incredibly easy to supplement,

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>Vegan for health benefits
Spurious

>Vegan for ethical purity
Airtight

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stop posting this fucking thread

>veganism kills children
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31339288
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22726312
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1425805
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16208206
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16412249
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11787236
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25953825
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9028851
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6703771
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15009584

>vegans are less fertile than meat-eaters
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27280539
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2008867
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1957814
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3096794

>low or no meat intake associated with mental illness
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30404246
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3917888/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17411462
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12127390

>vegetarians diets as a risk factor for constipation
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27262283
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28841661
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17411462
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22969234

>humans evolved to eat meat
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30872714
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14672286
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC17605/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4163920/

>health organizations worldwide caution about veganism
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baka.com.au/national/nsw/sydney-parents-face-court-over-vegan-diet-which-left-baby-malnourished-20180411-p4z8xq.html
theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/01/joel-sergine-le-moaligou-convicted
torontosun.com/2015/04/10/parents-sentenced-in-malnutrition-death/
thelocal.it/20160629/two-year-old-in-serious-condition-after-being-raised-vegan
eu.news-press.com/story/news/crime/2019/11/12/malnourished-toddler-weighed-17-lbs-time-death-family-vegan-sheila-oleary-ryan-oleary-cape-coral/2577087001/
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2831584/vegan-mom-arrested-child-neglect-opting-baby-vegan-formula-instead-taking-hospital.html
rawstory.com/2014/12/toddler-dies-from-malnutrition-caused-by-radical-christian-parents-faith-based-vegan-diet/
theguardian.com/uk/2001/sep/15/taniabranigan
bay.com.mt/parents-jailed-for-putting-baby-daughter-on-vegan-diet/
edition.cnn.com/2003/LAW/03/24/ctv.swinton/
abc15.com/news/crime/old-time-crime-malnourished-kids-saved-from-parents-in-2005
phoenixnewtimes.com/news/trial-begins-for-a-scottsdale-who-starved-his-kids-6662908
foxnews.com/world/vegan-couple-jailed-sweden-restrictive-diet
vice.com/en_us/article/4xkk3n/couple-lose-custody-of-malnourished-baby-after-feeding-him-vegan-diet
foxnews.com/world/australia-vegan-parents-baby-jail
foxnews.com/us/vegan-parents-charged-after-starving-their-5-month-baby-by-switching-from-doctor-advised-organic-formula
thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/12-year-old-vegan-has-the-degenerating-bones-of-80-year-old/
stuff.co.nz/world/5613150/Vegan-couples-life-sentence-holds-in-babys-death
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these are all negligence, not specifically due to diet.

>In the opinion of these three, professional career vegan advocates, Veganism is ....... "Adequate."

So if three vegans said something about Veganism that's basically proof?

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>>low or no meat intake associated with mental illness

>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30404246
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466124/
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3917888/
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17411462
>ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12127390

That explains alot btw.

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bbc.com/future/article/20200127-how-a-vegan-diet-could-affect-your-intelligence

western veganism is not the most ethical diet by a long margin

>To prepare dietetic and nutrition professionals for service to their church, society, and the world and to influence the community at large to affirm the Seventh-day Adventist lifestyles, including the vegetarian diet.

web.archive.org/web/20200418054555/https://www.andrews.edu/chhs/publichealth/programs/dpd/revised-handbook-2015-2016.pdf

Always find the original source for quotes and back them up via archive's waybackmachine. Often these pdfs get lost, or sometimes they get called out and they delete them and pretend they never existed.

legit the lowest IQ way of convincing ppl against veganism

because the moment anyone actually bothers to read or open any of your links u lose all your credentials immediately, but I guess u win bc you wasted their time and made them read

Apart from all the essential vitamins that only come from animal products of course.

Just be a vegetarian instead, get all the animal protein without hurting animals.
>muh cooped up chikuns
Buy free range eggs
>muh raped cows
Milk cows are treated well in civilized countries

which you can get from a vegan diet with proper supplimentation.

>30+ documented cases of children dieing due to veganism
>they did it wrong lol
proof that vegans are sub-human

First one I clicked looks pretty solid to me, what's wrong with it?

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Ten year old case study isn’t the greatest level of evidence user.

show me statistics on non-vegan children dieing due to anything. Cherrypicking/anecdotal

Have vegan diets changed massively in the last decade?

>having to take a pill

You are just proving that a vegan diet CANNOT fulfill your dietry needs.

You are probably one of these people that thinks it's all cool having HIV, because it can be
solved by taking some pills.

Translation- I'm a vegan and I lied. Scientific research means nothing to me, because I am a cheerleader for a starvation cult called Veganism.

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as far as i know, the only supplement that's needed, which can't be acquired from a purely plant based diet is vitamin B12, which is produced by bacteria in the soil. the reason we can't get it is because we tend to filter our water and heavily wash our vegetables (completely understandable, as unwashed vegetables come with other obvious health problems). this issue isn't specific to veganism, livestock also usually can't produce B12 on their own, and so they're supplemented with cobalt/B12. instead of injecting them with supplements, and then eating them, why not just take the supplements directly?

aside from that, all other nutrients can be acquired from a balanced plant based diet, one containing vegetables, fruits, legumes and algae or seeds.

both the dairy and the egg industries result in a lot of death and suffering for the animals involved.
concerning dairy, cows are repeatedly impregnated so that they constantly produce milk. then once they give birth, their children are taken away from them and sent to slaughter. the same thing happens to the milk cow herself after a few years, when her production starts to drop. she gets sent to a slaughterhouse at a fraction of her natural lifespan.

as for eggs, male chicks are killed at birth. females are often debeaked, then kept in small cages for the rest of their lives. and as you've said in your comment, we've bred them to produce eggs at a much much higher rate than they do in nature, which stresses them out, and very often leads to calcium deficiencies. then of course, they're sent to slaughter once their production rate drops.

How come vegans went deathly quiet over Liam Nelson? Why did a brilliant genius vegan quit the cult after just one operation?

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Malnutrition deaths in the developed world are so rare that they are not even seen in statistics.
Vegans only make up a small percentage of the population, so it's your turn to provide 6000+ cases of regular children dieing to B12 and D deficiencies.

>All forms of vegetable farming result in a lot of death and suffering for the animals involved. For example the rabbits mice and deer who were trying to live and survive minding their own business and some crop farmer shoots, poisons and gasses them.

>I am a vegan cultist so naturally I don't give a fuck about the stupid animals lol.

youtube.com/watch?v=McW1fJHY0-Y

>instead of injecting them with supplements, and then eating them
Livestock can produce B12 on their own.
Try reading this before spouting nonsense about B12. There are many sources where you can get it.

As I said, a vegan diet is not complete.

There is no argument to this, it is a simple fact that you just need to learn to accept.

>good news, goyim! Science has proven that our newly formulated, corn syrup and soi meal replacement gruel has made traditional food obsolete! Please supply your credit card details to begin your subscription... unless you're... a problematic literal Nazi?

Eating pests and vermin is ethical. No sense in wasting good meat.

I didn't say anything about chickens crapping out eggs.
But here in Europe there are standards that ensure than animals suffer as little as possible.

The highest quality free range chicken farms have lots of space for chickens to move about in and they are outside most of the day.
Their beaks don't get clipped and they're fed a natural diet that doesn't contain onions.
I spend more money to ensure the animals don't suffer, and in turn I get animal products that make sure I don't suffer. It's a nice synergy.

>Another vegan thread
>Gone terribly wrong

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Okay
>11 year old study, never cited
>case study of 1
>shows that purely breastfeeding a baby when you're deficient in b12 results in the baby also being deficient in b12 (no shit)
>recommends mother to take b12 supplement during breastfeeding if she intends to purely breastfeed

By the way, do you know how you get b12 in most of the animal products you consume? Hint: it's supplemented to the animal either directly or indirectly. If the livestock is grainfed, it's supplemented vitamin b12 directly. Otherwise, cobalt is supplemented so the animal can synthesize b12 better but it's usually not enough. Two more points; a lot of omnivores are deficient in b12 as well, and in the case of why, it's because we've sterilized the soil and b12 comes from bacteria in the dirt.

(We've sterilized the soil and we feed livestock a shitton of antibiotics, so that's why b12 production in general is kind of fucked). But ya I got offtrack

Humans are pretty effective omnivores but the modern era has kinda fucked things up a bit.

Oh ya, for everything I said about b12 and cobalt, it only applies to cows since they're ruminants. As for pigs/chickens, they get all their b12 from consumption as well.