Rank novice progression with judo

To anyone with experience, how is the reality of getting thrown on your ass for a year or two before you start landing throws in randori? Specifically curious about the mentality required, given that mentality is all that can really be developed with the world under lockdown.

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judo is the gayest shit ever. i took judo classes on the side while doing mma just to check it out.

you literally just play tug of war holding onto the gi sleeves and collar then play footsie trips until one guy gets enough momentum to throw the other guy

never again

>t. bjj fag

Can you name a good min striking art that doesn't start you in the sitting position?

Non striking, fick autocorrect and jannies

isn't greco roman wrestling good from standing?

Catch wrestling

Yea there's a bunch of those gyms around

There are no grappling arts that start sitting, so I don't know what you mean.
Even in BJJ, matches start standing, and competitors will just sometimes transition to sitting immediately in order to gain easier access to leg locks.
Modern catch wrestling runs into the same problem as BJJ - the highest levels of competition are so focused on leg locks, that all submission grappling matches, whether catch wrestling or jiu jitsu based, will see many people immediately start sitting.

just do bjj in a gym with hot girls. if you become a brown belt you can sleep with any of them

>and competitors will just sometimes transition to sitting immediately in order to gain easier access to leg locks.
isn't pulling guard frowned on by most practitioners though?

>training for years just to shit where you eat

are there any grappling arts that permit ball grabbing and dick thumping

>just do bjj in a gym with hot girls
Have you actually dealt with BJJ women? Most are all crazy, full of tattoos, arrogant as fuck, and or fat as hell. Judo women are where it is at. Amerimutt speaking

I've only trained BJJ and high school wrestling formally, but I have received a decent amount of informal judo lessons from my training partners and coaches with much prior judo experience.
From my experience in these three, I can tell you that it's very hard on the body. The more takedowns or throws you do, the more often you will get injured and the more you'll need to take special care in recovery. I've only trained as a young, healthy male, so I've yet to run into major problems. That said, I've met people who have had their necks, legs, shoulder, fingers, and feet crippled to varying levels from these sports.
It's dangerous and discouraging, but very much worth it for the right kind of people.
Yes, but no one cares about what's frowned upon when you're in the top ten in the world, and pulling guard is what it takes to become the number one.

>>training for years just to shit where you eat

maybe its not done in bjj gyms, but i frequent a bar run by modelesque bartender women and they all started going to a muay thai kickboxing gym, and the coaches ran through them . im sure they werent the first.

so muay thai it is

Yes, thats how judo beginners do judo. Now describe how a brand new boxer boxes.

>It's dangerous and discouraging, but very much worth it for the right kind of people.
How much does breakfalling/ukemi help in terms of risk reduction? I'd like to continue lifting (squat/bench/ohp/dead/etc) and MTBing alongside judo if possible.

I lift for Daria Bilodid

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If you don't know how to fall, you'll be out of the sport very, very quickly. It's a bare minimum if you want to pursue the sport.
I lift heavy 4 days a week and train a very wrestling heavy form of no-gi jiu jitsu 4-8 times a week. It's possible to do this, but you need to eat a lot, get as much sleep as you possibly can, and use recovery methods (eg epsom salt baths, foam rolling, daily stretches)

Damn me for living in the USA and in So Cal where BJJ is the predominant grappling sport.

-23 5'9 manlet whose 180 and NGMI and get a judo gf.

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So you lift heavy and train on the same day?

Nidan here.

Depends on how much mat time you can get but honestly even when you hit brown belt you are going to hit with a throw. In fact the whole mentality is you need to open yourself up to be thrown so you can find your own opening to throw is what can help you really grow if that makes sense.

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Sambo? I've no experience with it but most high level eastern european mma fighters do really well.
Despite this Sambo as I see it is basically just MMA with a larger focus on grappling techniques like judo throws and folk/catch wrestling techniques anyway.

Sometimes - my schedule looks like this:
>Monday
Morning BJJ, Night kickboxing and BJJ
>Tuesday
Morning Chest, Night BJJ
>Wednesday
Morning BJJ, Night kickboxing and BJJ
>Thursday
Morning Squats, Night BJJ
>Friday
Morning OHP, Night BJJ and open mat
>Saturday
Morning BJJ and kickboxing
>Sunday
Deadlifts

This is an ideal week, and if I'm busy I'll only make it to four BJJ classes.

Krav Maga

So in that time before brown belt, how did the progress feel? Did it feel like a slow grind with a big payoff, or was it enjoyable from shortly after the get-go?

I'm willing to practice just falling for a few months before learning anything else.

absolutely based

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Not to bombard you with questions, but were you an intermediate lifter before you adopted this schedule?

Spacing out lifts into one per day makes me wonder if I should max out my novice progression before joining a dojo, was getting close to 1/2/3/4 before quarantine anyway so it can't be too far off.

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I did judo for about 6 years, took me well into my 3rd year before I could actually throw someone well enough in randori.
Don't know what specifics you want about the mentality, it's just a lot of pushing through being shit at it and eventually you'll find your rythm/style/whatever you wanna call it.

Ahah imagine gasping for air while being choked by her juicy thighs and as soon as you try to take a breath she presses her asshole against your open mouth and your lungs fill with shit particles ahaha could you imagine it ahah

Judo, wrestling well grappling and just martial art in general dont have really big pay offs. I mean like the mentality you want to have in terms of being a long term pratactionner you kinda have to seek small growth in terms of like improving your own game.

I say this a lot to my own students and athletes but some days you are the hammer and things click, you're drilling and hitting uchikomis cleaning and you flow and are able to do your offense or defensive sets.

Other days and well weeks you just get the shit slammed out of you, choked out of you and nothing goes right. Its at that point where you do have to self reflect buckle down and endure. A lot of times i see kids or teens just get fed up and quit.

It depends on the athlete and practitioner and what you get out of each practice. But a lot of people hit mental or physical walls, they dont like losing or losing face. Its up to the coaches/senseis and partners to encourage and push grapplers not only that they can improve but grow in the longer term as life long practitioners.


So even in lock down if you can work on cardio, work on your ukuemi, do a shit load of pull ups on a bar, lift eat clean you slowly make yourself better for judo or whatever.

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