How ro ascend?

Meditation?
Fasting?
Praying?
Reading philosophy? (Which books?)

Please, bros, I want the suffering to stop?

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step 0 is probably to stop posting frogs on indonesian banana curry cooking forums

all of them

But in my experience if at the end of the day your not proud of the things you got done that day then the suffering isnt gonna stop.

And even if you are proud of that one day then you still got tomorrow and have to do all that shit all over again.

Try to enjoy it tho it might even get enjoyable after a while :>

Try anything that makes sense to you. No one thing will make you happy.
And even if something didn't work before, it's worth a shot trying again once you feel you've ascended one step. There are many stages in spiritual development.

being happy

>meditation
Go sit in the sun and meditate for ~20 mins a day. Makes me feel great
>fasting
48hr fasts help lower bf% and a lot of other benefits. Won’t make you lose gainz either.
>praying
If you believe it sure idk
>philosophy
Read the classics. I’d start with meditations by Marcus Aurelius. Philosophy is a black hole and it’s easy to make yourself depressed if you’re sucking up the rambling of some old Jew as life advice.

In that order :
Your religion (if applicable) > stoicism > if it doesn't work, go full Buddhism.
The last two give actual techniques and methods to deal with suffering.
Fasting is a tool, not a solution. Meditation too, but it tends to be beneficial in most case (assuming good mental health).
Hang in there bro.

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To ascend, completely remove the internet from your life.

Yes, all of it. ALL of it.

No smartphone. No computer in your house, everything you need to do you can go to the public library for. If you can't browse it in public, its immoral, and you should be cutting it out of your life.

Go to the philosophy section of the library and check out books. Read, and write down all your thoughts in a notebook. Synthesize what the author is trying to get across, your thoughts on it, and why or why not.

Spend as many hours outdoors as possible. If you will not die from being outside, you should be outside. Experience nature and reality in all of its glory.

Have no attachment to possessions, only experiences. A note book is useful to collect your thoughts. Pots and pans for cooking. But pretty much everything else is elective, an attachment to earth, and you are trying to step away from that.

If you subscribe to Rousseau and to a parallel extent that humans are inherently good and that it is society that corrupts us, then you will want to try and live as close to an authentic life as possible (look up the philosophical word "authentic", it is not the same as everyday use).

If you can't do step 1, you will not make it and should resort to your life of torturing yourself for lacking virtue and discipline and struggling against your inner demons.

>Please, bros, I want the suffering to stop?
im not a buddhist but i remember them saying that suffering is unavoidable. you have to accept it and then you can find peace.

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JOE ROGAN DESENDS: Have you done DMT

Nah, pain is unavoidable; suffering is optional. That's why Buddhists train.

>I want the suffering to stop
ngmi

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Suffering isn't going to stop. The important thing is to find what works for you, what helps you live a fulfilling life (again- whatever that means to you).

If religion is your cup of tea, great. If you are enamored by the ideal of an unchanging, stoic rock of a man then dive into stoicism. If you want to try and find fulfillment through the natural world, learning science is always fun. Some people are lucky enough to be so addicted to an activity that the fulfillment they wean from life is built around it- bodybuilding, music, writing, etc., and if that's you, then keep working your craft (but for most people it isn't so 'easy'). For as much suffering and effort life takes from you, it has so much to offer. Life isn't good, a lot of times it's not fun, but god damn does it have variety.

You don't ascend through some crazy, single event of enlightenment from years of meditation or from a crazy acid trip or whatever the fuck, because we're all just rats in the system. We're all trapped by a system larger-than-life, whatever it is to you: your own thought cycles and behaviors, the soul-eating grasp of capitalism, your social circles, your personal vices, or the blunt-and-cruel uncaring nature of the universe. We're always trapped in something, always engaged in some struggle or endeavor that requires our effort. The point is to find fulfillment in that struggle, whatever that means to you.

Nobody has good answers. There wouldn't be much fun in living if there was a perfect answer, now would there? Find what fulfillment means to you, and live it. It's leagues harder to do than it is to say. Good luck, friend.

I meditated and did yoga and read philosophy but it wasn't until I took psychedelics that everything spiritual started to make sense to me. You can read "kill the ego" until tomorrow but when it actually dissolves and you feel the bliss of unity, you just know it. I only took them alone in a safe place or in a ceremonial setting. Dopeheads who disrespect them deserve the outcome.
I think it's a good starter to get a taste of what's out there, to motivate you through the hard work of the path.

Don't fall for the "life is suffering" meme. The fact that everything is transitory doesn't make life less worth to experience, and unless you really tried and tasted all, renunciation is just a cover for weakness and inability to go after what you want.

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adding on to this, since you wanted book recommendations, if the dumb shit i wrote here is enticing to you, i recommend reading The Stranger and The Myth of Sisyphus by Camus. i've got a lot of my ideas from those books.

This.

What kind of experience did you have? I 'disrespected' LSD awhile ago ("I handled 200ugs great for my first time! time to drop 300 after a stressful week" - my retarded ass) and had a bad trip, but I think it was overall a positive experience. I think it taught me a lot, it seemed to breath new life into the views I had but it wasn't a total paradigm shift like a lot of "psychonauts" like to talk about. The level of alienation and abject terror I had when I was peaking, and the way the world seemed to melt away really gave me some insights onto how "subjective" everybody's view of life is.

Get into deep quantum physics and mat sci, realize God exists, start praying.

I read the stranger, but couldnt finish sysyphus because it was too boring to read. Camus novels are great, but his philosophical essay is too heavy for my dumb brain.

Since lockdown I've been
>reading
>working out
>IF 14:10
>nofap
But now I just feel empty. I do these things out of sheer habit now, which is good but they no longer bring me joy. What do?

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Don't worry, it took me 3 tries over 3 years to get through the whole thing. It's short, but dense and hard to read, but if you really just read the first section of the essay and the last section, you'll get the essence of his thought.

cognitive behavioral therapy

I read pic related and it really helped me, my suicidal thoughts were gone after like 2 weeks. But i am a lazy fag and didnt stick to the recommended practices.

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The suffering doesn't ever stop.
You Just learn to embrace the pain and leave your sanity behind if you don't want to suffer.

Great book. It has a LOT o f practices this book is huge so don't worry about not doing all of them, just stick to the one that helped you out the most

>I’d start with meditations by Marcus Aurelius.
Midwit take. I honestly suggest you listen to absolutely no Yas Forumsizen when it comes to literature and philosophy. They have high school tier advice at best.

My first trip was 150ug of LSD lying in bed at night. There were many thoughts, ideas, sounds, colors flowing around and felt like I as a person wasn't there, just these contents experiencing themselves. And then when I came back there was an overwhelming feeling of love and being a part of everything. Coming down I had some violent and disgusting visuals but I thought about friends and good things and I managed to calm down.
And when I was gradually coming back everything felt very fluid and not as limiting as usual, and made me figure I could try to change old patterns and I did experiment with that by being more confident when interacting with girls and people in general.
There's always the feeling of the void there too, and going through it and reassembling yourself again is not something I want to do too often...

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Great book indeed. Writting down your negative thoughts and trying your best to debuke them is so simple but so effective.

Do a real fast. 14:10 is below the bare minimum for IF, anyways. 16:8 is the real bare minimum, and it even it is pussy as fuck. If you have enough excess body fat, do a 72 hour fast for epic autophagy and HGH gains.

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DMT. I know it has become a meme recently because of Joe Rogan and others but, it absolutely brings out a spiritual understanding unparalleled by many other methods. It impacts you in ways almost unfathomable and 8/10 guys that I have asked about it felt a real lasting difference after the experience. It all comes down to doing it with people that you trust the most and in a safe place.

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