did you fall for the "plant foods are the most nutritional and healthy" lie?.
I fell for it a little when I was still susceptible to brainwash. A lot has changed. Luckely I never experimented with veganism for more than a few months. Needless to say the months where I was experimenting with it I always felt like shit and depressed.
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>Veganism for health
Wrong and selfish anyway
>Veganism for ethics
Saintly
>> ethics.
I understand the point of ethics. But I also don't. My understanding is this:
You have to consume life to live. Plant life is not "less" than animal life. Just because we don't really understand plants as well because they operate so differently does not mean they are less alive than animals.
So ethically its not even a good hold.
this video was a real eye opener. Scientists discover plants can make choices, amongst things: youtube.com
It takes a shit ton of plants to feed stock.
The point of veganism as ethics is mostly to reduce land use.
I'm not vegan but the anti vegan arguments are always shit.
Eating meat at every meal will give you cholesterol and ass cancer, not boost your testosterone.
cholesterol is one of the most test boosting things you can consume retard
Pastures my take up a ton of land area, but that doesn't mean they're unnatural or damage the environment. unlike crops
Where did you get that? in your trump supporter church chastity group?
>sure
33% of the crops are used to feed them. So it takes also crops to produce meat.
It will al regulate itself when we start dying of common infection because of antibiotic resitance caused by the meat industrie.
The problem really vegan or not, but how Much meat. and now we're fucking up
>33% of the crops
That's a vegan lie user. It's only 33% of grains and a lot of those are rejects from human production.
Man, u dumb.
There is good cholesterol and bad cholesterol. HDL and LDL.
Your stat is about the whole WORLD (that you seem not to know much about), thus it's too general to get much out of it. Most of the Eurasian steppe and most of Africa are arable land, but aren't cultivated. They're huge and fall into "livestock production" technically, pic related.
i wont argue with you because you are still dumb and believing propaganda. You are brainwashed. everything you said is false but you believe its true because you heard it from others a few times
that explain everything then!
so that's the problem. you all think everything is a conspiracy
Also, people like to say: You are what you eat.
But we aren't sunshine and flowers, and we aren't puffy pastries, stuffing ourselves with cute candy will turn our blood into liquid sugar and kill us. We are meat and we can't change that. Eat meat.
You're a retard who fell for big food's propaganda.
yeah but how much meat do they consume ? i have been to both africa and asia and it isn't much compared to EU or US.
again just saying the quantity is the problem.
corn is used for bio carburants mostly amd onions for livestock feeding
this
While bad cholesterol indeed does put a strain on your heart and cardiovascular system, good cholesterol does not have that effect.
And he's not completely wrong, your endocrine system uses cholesterol to produce sex hormones, including testosterone. Whether eating more good cholesterol INCREASES test? I'm not sure. But a diet lacking healthy cholesterol does lower it.
I personally eat a steak everyday and some eggs. thats it, i also spend less money on food cause I don't buy the useless things like veg and cookies / processed foods anymore.
I someties eat fruit, but not because they are "healthy" I know they aren't that useful. I like fruit to aquire high quality purified water. its a bag of water and sugar. very pure water since the plant filtered it. fruit is nice for water.
you must be pure sweat
Most cattle eat from crops too
Fuck did you say to me? I can squat 600lbs
Depends, on the country. In places like Kazakhstan they eat a lot of meat per person (some of the highest in the world), but the country is the size of all of Western Europe, and it's very sparsely populated, with only 20 million inhabitants. Other countries eat a ton of fish because they're near the sea and so on.
My point is, when the statistic is so broad, you don't even end up comparing apples to oranges, you end up comparing a mix of apples and oranges to a mix of potatoes and tomatoes, all counted as if they're the same thing.
As for land in general being used for crops that feed animals, this happens exclusively if the land is so bad that food acceptable for humans can't grow on it. Thy're lower quality crops that are sold at much lower prices. Nobody in their right mind would grow these kind of crops unless it's the only thing they can grow on their land.
>yeah but how much meat do they consume ? i have been to both africa
>africa
>not much meat
Maybe not in raw numbers. But some African groups, like the Maasai, eat only animal products like meat, bonemarrow and animal blood. Almost no vegetables or grains.
Yes! thanks for not being idiotic.
But can we agree that livestock puts a globally higher environmental stress, especially in western countries.
>"Vegan dude is an idiot. But he did talk about us being controlled by 5g towers, so I respect him more than others"
wait does dude hating on vegans subscribe to the conspiracy thought that 5g towers = coronavirus or NWO or something?
epik bait,now go be clueless about diets somewhere else
oh and please dont kill your dog by feeding it vegan food...not very ethical
the strongest person in Yas Forums history, clarence, is vegan LEL
yeah, somehow I doubt this guy is natty.
also, nice trips
I have no clue, I never looked into how western countries deal with this. In Romania (where I live), almost all arable land is high quality, thus around ~90% is used for food that ends up on someone's table (or wine). Animals are mostly fed by going to alpine pastures, or from mowed grass from places where neither trees nor crops can grow. I suppose in places like Greece, France, Italy, Austria, Switzerland and Spain, transhumance plays a big part in growing livestock as well. This is also what cowboys used to do if I'm not mistaken.
You might want to look at these molecules. All your body need to do to creatr testosterone from cholesterol is snip the tail.
Has he ever actually had anything to do with fit?
Also it doesn't matter if he's natty or not, were he competing in the Olympics he would still be top 3 among a field of dozens of other juiced up monsters. His lifts are still impressive as fuck and you should post body.
In the US for beef and Spain for pork for example, the stock is kept in stalls doesn't see much of the outside and is mostly fed with grains.
The concentration of animals is so dense entire valley reek of shit.
>His lifts are still impressive as fuck and you should post body.
I'm not hating, I'm just saying that using him as an example of a fit and healthy vegan is stupid. I might aswel use Ronnie Coleman or prime Arnold as example of healthy meat eaters.
I'd be more impressed by a vegan with a more humble, and natty, physique.
Again though, no hate to Clarence.