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Is Seiza healthy or harmful? I was looking into improving my calves's blood circulation and came across this. Some websites say it is great for your health, others say it will give you chronic knee and ankle problems in a short time.
I've practiced it thrice by now, 15 minutes each. My feet hurt a lot and eventually fall asleep. After finishing the practice my ankles hurt for hours, but not too much, I just feel the pain if I rotate them at certain angles, and by the next morning the pain is totally gone. People say it is common to feel pain in Seiza at the beginning, but I'm wondering if the pain I'm going through is normal or the chronic type one that I should be careful with.
Seiza posture - harmful of healthy?
i told you yesterday, cockhead. it's a ceremonious posture used for 15 minutes MAX and that's by old school weeaboos only. Most nips can't even do the posture anymore, despite being filthy floor dwelling bug people
Not joking I've been trying to do this everyday for almost a month but my knees still hurt af when I descend. Any user who achieved this please tell how long it took you thanks
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t. wasted several years doing aikido
You said that, but it's wrong.
First of all, some people are just used to it. There's a woman in that aikido gym that waits for his son to finish training while sitting in seiza position. There is no formal context, she is simply used to that position, that's probably how she sits in her home.
Nips sit like that in tea cerimonies. There's not much to do when your furniture is based on the idea of sitting on the floor. Tea cerimonies take 45 minutes, not 15.
It is true that it is a painful, demanding and taxing position, yes, but don't just dismiss it as being something you do for 15 minutes.
And finally my question is if it will improve or fuck my health, not if I am supposed to do it for more than 15 minutes. I imagine if you spent 5+ hours sitting like that you'd develop health problems (just like you would by sitting on a chair for so much time without rest), but the question is for ~30 minutes of practice which sounds reasonable
>knees still hurt af when I descend
You mean when you ascend? Like, after undoing the position?
I began practicing some days ago and my knees never really hurt, it's just the ankles killing me. But I'm cheating by using a pillow between my legs. Are you doing it raw, without support? That's hardcore even for the nips
Poeple need to practice to do this? I tried it once when I had to sit on the ground at a camp a whi back and just did it for half an hour, no pain or anything. I don't to put of my way to sit like that but when my legs are tired I sometimes sit like that as an alternative.
Are you a woman?
No, I did fall for the SS meme and have thick legs so maybe that cussioned me.
Are you sure you did seiza, and not just something similar?
You supported your entire bodyweight on your calves and ankles?
They should have gone asleep after 5 minutes, that's what happens even for those who do seiza for years, there is no way you wouldn't find that annoying
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Its exactly like the op image, I don't see how I can mess it up. I'm doing it now to see if I still can but I'm not going to waste more than 10 minutes on this, since it's on the hard ground too. Started at xh22
First of all, you're reddit spacing. Don't do that in my thread.
Second of all, you're a fatty, that's why you get angry with seiza threads.
Third of all, what does "tosser" even mean?
SPACE THIS
YOU LITTLE
WEEABOO CUNT
FUCK YOU POST ADDRESS FAGGOT
Did 10 minutes, definitely harder than when I was younger, but not too bad. My big toes started to tingle but after flexing my calves a bit it went away. Worst part is the top of my feet on the hard ground, that's a bit unpleasant.
You were not supposed to do it on hard floor, not even nips do that. Rip user's feet.
What would you do if I lived in another country? How would you fulfill your desire for unholy retribution?
I typed this while sitting in seiza just to spite you
Japanese are pussies so you can't go by them. I wonder if I can stream myself sitting like this for money if it's really supposed to be hard. Maybe it's my secret talent.
POST COUNTRY
I'M READY TO GO TO WAR BITCH
FUCK YOU KID CUNT FAGGOT
BITCH FUCK YOU
It's hard but at the same time not impressive. Anyone without chronic knee/ankle problems can do it. Also everyone in Japan is socially forced to do it, and so are people doing aikido classes or other japanese martial art classes. So it's something common, but the catch is that it hurts like hell after ~5 minutes, people just pretend they're comfortable because showing discomfort from seiza is dishonorable and makes you look like a pussy
Now if you could stream yourself holding Seiza for several hours that would be impressive, but only weeaboos and nips would find it impressive, so you'd need to make very targeted advertising to make money. It'd also kill your ankles/knees permanently, but at least you'd have divine back posture.
Australia. And I am not afraid, you sound like the type of American that wouldn't be able to point Australia on a world map, so there are no chances you'll get here.
I don't see how it's harmful, as long as you go into it properly.
Warm up beforehand and rest at max 80% pain.
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>WEST OR EAST?
Yes.
I get the feeling you're just looking for confirmation since you're dismissing everyone's opinions in the thread so here
No, you won't develop chronic pain keep doing it
Point one single post in this thread that answered whether there would be chronic problems or not
you just posted cringe
Are you doing some kind of Zazen? Don’t do that, that’s not Zen, get fucked.
It is harmful to your perception and attachment to the practice itself, don’t deluded yourself... it also fucks your knees and lower back
>No, you won't develop chronic pain keep doing it
How can Seiza "not be Zen"? It's literally one of the "official" meditation positions.
>it also fucks your knees and lower back
See, this is wrong, there is no way it can fuck my lower back. Maybe the knees, sure, but not the lower back. If anything it's the best exercise for the lower back ever created.
It sounded as if you were being sarcastic about your response.
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my uncle died of a seizure so no I'd say they're not healthy
As a former Samurai-obsessed Ken-sama weeb who used to sit on seiza for hours every day i can tell you that it will fuck your knees up big time. I had to re-wire my mind to stop sitting like that on instinct for a long time in order to heal my knees and still to this day my knees are not great (dead lifting is off the table for me)
Don't fall for weeb memes, if you want to sit like that so bad do it for just 10 minutes or less a day but no more