can somebody explain to me how this shit is even a thing with a 6 hour halflife? a big cup of coffee has up to 400mg of caffeine in it which means you will still have 100mg in your system when you go to sleep. it absolutely nukes your rem sleep and deep sleep phases. this shit is literally worse than cocaine which lets you sleep after moderate use because of 1 hour halflife.
>Withdrawal occurs at dosages as low as 100 mg/day. That’s just one typical cup of coffee. One study (Field et al., 2003) even found that abstaining from just 41 mg/day for 30 hours decreased blood flow to some parts of the brain by 19-32%. The most common withdrawal symptoms are headache, fatigue, decreased energy/activeness, decreased alertness, drowsiness, decreased contentedness, depressed mood, difficulty concentrating, irritability, and foggy/not clearheaded-ness. Withdrawal is much, much more common than most people think. Many people just assume legal drugs are perfectly safe and only associate withdrawal with illegal drugs, even though there is practically no relation between the toxicity and addictiveness of drugs and their legal status, but caffeine withdrawal is extremely common. In fact, many studies overestimated the positive effects of caffeine, because they didn’t exclude habitual caffeine consumers. This causes participants to be in withdrawal during the study and the so called positive effects of caffeine are then merely withdrawal reversal. If your training sessions are notably poorer without stimulants, you may very well be in withdrawal. Withdrawal also causes muscle stiffness and weakness (Juliano & Griffiths, 2004).
The Truth: You become addicted to caffeine quickly, and soon you are drinking coffee to cure withdrawal more than for stimulation.
>The truth is, once you’ve been drinking coffee for a while, the feeling you are getting after a cup isn’t the difference between the normal you and the super you, it’s the difference between the addict before and after a fix.
Kayden Price
“The take home is that regular use of caffeine produces no benefit to alertness, energy, or function. Regular caffeine users are simply staving off caffeine withdrawal with every dose – using caffeine just to return them to their baseline. This makes caffeine a net negative for alertness, or neutral at best if use is regular enough to avoid any withdrawal.”
- Neurologist Stephen Novella
Owen Perez
>SIIIIPPPPPPP
Uh uh user, I'm not reading that until I have my coffee. You know the rules.
Noah Williams
yeah pretty much, I wish I never started this shit. I feel like a literal junkie. In lockdown I am trying to taper off, but I end up cranking on it literally just for fun, because I am so fucking bored that getting tweaked on espresso is at least stimulating
Elijah Barnes
You need some new hobbies user. Art, music, literature, anything in addition to lifting weights and cardio.
Michael Brooks
based druggie
Isaac Kelly
Speed + coke + caffeine is a based combo though
Blake Flores
Can confirm the cocaine Part. Few bumbs = can sleep like a baby if i dont drink or smoke.
1 monster in the morning = cant sleep until 4am
Caffeine/coffee/energy drinks are a kike made drug for wagies. Unrefutable
Matthew Roberts
I drink 2-4 cups a day. 1-2 Morning. 1-2Afternoon losing weight, I feel good. I can run 10k now. gf gets fucked from time to time.
/nocaf/ is just an other tareded thing by losers for losers.
Good bye *slurp
Jose Nguyen
cope addicted insect
Jonathan Scott
Caffeine approximates the function of thyroid hormone and is good for you. The existence of withdrawal effects is not proof of a substance being bad. The problem with moderate caffeine consumption is when it's consumed in a fasted state, which definitely ramps up your stress hormones because the metabolic boost it provides burns through your blood sugar and glycogen so your body releases adrenaline and cortisol to free up resources.
Gabriel Green
Nothing which effects your sleep is good for you
Nicholas Hall
Based an Peat pilled
Jose Jackson
Blue light is good for you when properly timed. Eating is good for you but you don't eat a feast dinner right before bed.
Nolan Rivera
Weak argument. Caffeine has a 6 hour halflife. Countless studies on how it effects sleep + a million anectodal stories of people quitting and reporting of said amazing sleep gains.
Kevin Ross
Switched to decaff because I was drinking way too much coffee per day, like 5 cups on average. Pretty sure it was fucking up my stomach, spent a lot of time on the throne to put it one way.
Haven't noticed any withdrawals yet from the decaff. Either that means I'm still getting some kind of fix off the decaff, or the withdrawal isn't noticeable. All I know is I'm not on the shitter as often now.
Tyler Thomas
What about matcha green tea?
Leo Campbell
AHHH BROS CAFFEINE GIVES ME TONSIL STONES AND ANXIETY BUT I CANT STOP AAAHHHH IM A FUCKING CAFFER
Taper down nigga. You know how caffeine makes you feel good, focus, and gives you energy temporarily? Well now i have that same effect all throughout the day, and it's clean, and stable. I've never felt better. I also focus much better.
Ryder Hernandez
I now drink caffeine free diet soda. After a week suddenly I felt sleepy by 11pm. No struggles to sleep. Actually wanted to sleep. Incredible. Then came the headaches Caffeine really is poison
Tyler Davis
Lol @ those momscience sites. >In fact, many studies overestimated the positive effects of caffeine, because they didn’t exclude habitual caffeine consumers. This causes participants to be in withdrawal during the study and the so called positive effects of caffeine are then merely withdrawal reversal.
>drinking-coffee-before-bed-does-not-affect-sleep-quality-study-finds I want anyone itt to drink a cup of coffee before sleep and see what happens, kek.
I advise anyone to read pic related who is struggling with this devilish kike brew. Many people just assume legal drugs are perfectly safe and only associate withdrawal with illegal drugs, even though there is practically no relation between the toxicity and addictiveness of drugs and their legal status.
who says that caffeine has a 6 hour half life? Caffeine is cleared up by the liver, and liver function greatly varies among the population, along genetic caffeine metabolism, so how could it have _a_ half life? Furthermore, there are people that can drink coffee right before bed and sleep fine, and I personally slept just as poorly before and after starting coffee, and given that it's a habituated response it's hard to study the long term effects of coffee on sleep. The issue is that people don't want to take responsibility for their own health and simply put substances in a good or bad category instead of researching their place in a very complicated and individual physiological system. Some people cannot handle coffee at all and they should stay away, some people mistime coffee, some people don't feel any effect at all.
Brayden Garcia
>Caffeine is cleared up by the liver, and liver function greatly varies among the population, Does this mean if my liver blood work is high and 2x normal levels because of alcohol abuse and i also have fatty tissue there, im going to have more issues with caffeine and more likely sleep disruption?
Kayden Taylor
Maybe? But I think caffeine also protects and repairs the liver, so perhaps you should just consume your coffee early in the day and try to notice how it effects your sleep.
Evan Baker
Why not just drink it every 48-72h as a preworkout to get full benefits without tolerance? Anyone do this?
Michael Jenkins
>who says that caffeine has a 6 hour half life? Pretty much any website. Are they lying user?
