Yeah bro,just go to the gym and basically always start with barbell squats 5x5...

>Yeah bro,just go to the gym and basically always start with barbell squats 5x5,drain your entire energy on a leg exercise and then continue your 0 volume upper body workout but only if you don't have deadlifts after because you need to do another draining leg exercise!!That's how you are gonna look aesthetic,yep.

Why do you fucking still shill this meme you retards

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I honestly have no idea who that guy is or what that program says. When gym was open, I would just do some sort of bro split, mostly what felt good for my body. Worked fine, I've lost like 15 kg and I look and feel much better. Just seen a lot of SS+GOMAD memes around here, sorry bres.

because if you're a novice you shouldn't be drained from those sets

honestly great for females
I put my ex on SS, great ass and ham gains, bench and ohp built her chest up a bit so no disgusting visible ribs, the balancing ab work made her stomach look flatter even tho she gained like 4 kilos in those 3 months.
Sadly just like every female she didn't have the discipline to go any further

If you're a novice nothing is going to drain you because the weight isn't taxing enough, so why WOULDN'T you go ham on accessories? You're literally in the best possible time to recover from it.

This.

Every noob wonders why their bench stalls at a 155 lb 1RM or less. It’s because of a lack of volume and lack of tricep work

I bought it and learned the mechanical and physiological aspects of weightlifting. Realized I had been doing everything incorrectly. Helped me workout pain free. And I'm not a woman in a man's body, so when I do something it's to improve myself, not impress people I don't give a fuck about.

SS is great for 4 weeks or so. to get familiar with the main barbell lifts. after that you should move on to a program that targets your body more in-depth than SS does.

There is another book called practical programming and in that book, it talks about people like you. Not in a bad light but basically people who think they know what they are doing, get results because its impossible to avoid noob gains, but then not know how to progress from there. Then you will hop on a bunch of different laundry list style routine and maybe realize its better to just be proactive than to try hard.

>Starting Strength
>wants aesthetics
its not our fault you were too dumb to realize there are different ways to workout

Daily reminder SS/SL isn’t good.

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well a noob doesnt even have the right form to do that sort of thing so i dunno.... maybe try not to kill the noob before they get to a point where they can actually go hard?

>Supporting evidence
>highlights an opinion about looking ridiculous
is this like the american highschool kid fitness society website or something?

Well I think you should

Why is stronglifts and ss still on the sticky?

Do people really not know your supposed to do dips and chins also?
Either way it’s a fucking novice program, who cares, it doesn’t fucking matter. Do it for a little, learn the lifts, and get on a real program.

Same with strong lifts 5x5, do all the accessory work even if medlys retarded money hungry tells you not to.

Read the book. It's got really good form advice for the squat, bench, deadlift, and overhead press. It's the best way to teach the movements to beginners, even if they decide to do another program. Just fucking read it.

I hate this board

SS is a strength training program, not a bodybuilding one.

I'm taking the fundamentals from SS but plan to do 5/3/1 in a couple weeks once my form is established. Only because it's in the sticky here and some reddit page. Any better programs out there for early stage strength training?

>Read the book. It's got really good form advice for the squat, bench, deadlift, and overhead press. It's the best way to teach the movements to beginners, even if they decide to do another program. Just fucking read it.

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>session progression vs monthly progression
Fuck off dyel.

Worse. It's the Reddit fitness wiki. This absolute CUNT posted a SCREENSHOT from the Reddit wiki and had the nerve to call it supporting evidence.

Starring STRENGTH is a program that aims to build STRENGTH because, on the long run, being able to handle big weights is what gets you big in barbell training.
Fot example, in calisthenics you overload by moving on to harder movements. In barbell training you just put more on top of the barbell and do the exercises that let you go through the ROM with as much weight as possible ie BARBELL exercises. Now this it not to say that accessory movements have no place in a strength program, but as a BEGINNER you have to get acquainted to doing STRENGTH exercises that require a lot of reps to be nailed down so that, again, you can get BIG in the LONG RUN without roids nor injury.

>Worse. It's the Reddit fitness wiki. This absolute CUNT posted a SCREENSHOT from the Reddit wiki and had the nerve to call it supporting evidence.

>Starring STRENGTH is a program that aims to build STRENGTH because, on the long run, being able to handle big weights is what gets you big in barbell training.
>Fot example, in calisthenics you overload by moving on to harder movements. In barbell training you just put more on top of the barbell and do the exercises that let you go through the ROM with as much weight as possible ie BARBELL exercises. Now this it not to say that accessory movements have no place in a strength program, but as a BEGINNER you have to get acquainted to doing STRENGTH exercises that require a lot of reps to be nailed down so that, again, you can get BIG in the LONG RUN without roids nor injury.

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>Worse. It's the Reddit fitness wiki. This absolute CUNT posted a SCREENSHOT from the Reddit wiki and had the nerve to call it supporting evidence.

>Starring STRENGTH is a program that aims to build STRENGTH because, on the long run, being able to handle big weights is what gets you big in barbell training.
>Fot example, in calisthenics you overload by moving on to harder movements. In barbell training you just put more on top of the barbell and do the exercises that let you go through the ROM with as much weight as possible ie BARBELL exercises. Now this it not to say that accessory movements have no place in a strength program, but as a BEGINNER you have to get acquainted to doing STRENGTH exercises that require a lot of reps to be nailed down so that, again, you can get BIG in the LONG RUN without roids nor injury.

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Just do the fucking program. As in SS, not 5/3/1. I've never met nor heard of anyone who has had success on that fucking program. Also, it's an intermediate program, not a novice program.

Post body. Otherwise we can safely assume you are dyel. Ball’s in your court twig boy.

Look at the program list on /plg/

Approved Intermediate Programs for PLG (Revised)

>Bro Tier (trying hard, having sex, loving life required)
5th Set (late intermediates)
Westside for Skinny Bastards
Madcow Intermediate (best for early intermediate)
Destroy the Opposition (J. Lewis)
Cube Kingpin
The Cube (+ Predator)
Conjugate (best in a good gym)
Spotoshot (bench only)
Texas Method 4-day Split Model from PPST.
Juggernaut Method 2.0 (a more periodized 5/3/1)

>Nerd Tier (must have IQ higher than bodyweight in kg)
Barbell Medicine
RTS Generalized Intermediate
RTS Emerging Strategies
Nuckols Average to Savage
Nuckols 28 Free
GZCL (any variation)
TSA 9 Week
Blevins Skynet AI ($, but cheap)

>Meme Tier (might work if you love memes)
Candito 6 Week
Texas Method 3-Day
Texas Method Trappy Version
Sheiko
The Bridge
Smolov Jr.
Bulgarian/Bugenhagen Method
Heavy Light Medium (not a program, just a loose DUP template).
Slavic Swole
nSuns 5/3/1 (written by a 1200 total Redditor)
All other 5/3/1 (marketing meme made by a fat manlet)
Hepburn (8x2-3s)

>God Mode Tier
PH3 (need a tourniquet to choke yourself, and it has a 100% GAINZ rate)

*all of these programs work (except 5/3/1), but the effort and attitude of the athlete is most important

Conjugate sucks ass and will run you into the ground. I did it for a long time and it was fucking useless. Not enough specificity for 99% of people, and max effort and real DE work is a fucking nightmare to recover from. It's also a method, like the Texas Method and Emerging Strategies.

The problem with this shit, is that there's no way to say if it works or not, because people can always bitch that you didn't do the method right. I do think ES works, and it's given me good gains so far, but it's pretty easily summarized as just doing what works, so it has to work by nature.