Artists/ musicians that are fit

>Rapper
>Artist/musician

Pick one.

I always think about 50 cent when I need a goal body. The man got shot 9 times and came out of it looking swole as fuck.

The idea that rap is not music or art is quite literally indefensible from any coherent perspective. Probably best to back off this argument now.

No.
Rap is bad poetry and stolen music. It is the child's collage of music.

When you train militantly 3 times a day because you have to wtf you thinks gonna happen lol ‘magic’

anyone else remember fifty looking way bigger when that song was released?

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>rap is bad [...] music
So it's music. Thanks for proving my point.

Holy shit nerd get the fuck out of my thread

Check these fucking digits, nigger lovers.
Jazz sucks too.

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Bird calls, wind chines and running water is music, dumbass.

Jazz is a poor attempt at "expression" and just dumbed down swing.
Just as blues and gospel (which i happen to like) is simplified choral music.

Depends. Music is sound (or in some cases, the lack thereof) that is intended to be music. Same with all art. Art is anything that was intended to be art by the person who created it.

>Reminder niggers cannot even naturally into minor chords, much less modes.

Bullshit. Calling anything art is lazy.
I can tape a roll of tape to the wall and claim it is art.
>It is meant to signify that often; we are our own oppressor.

Explain how a lack of sound is music.

>jazz is dumbed down swing
this might be honestly the dumbest take I've ever heard in my entire life

You fucking faggots better start posting musicians with sick bodies or get the fuck off to /mu

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Fronk Yong.

>Just lol at violas. TRuly the flappy meat curtains of the string family.

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My mistake, I suppose I meant classical (European). Swing and big band IMO should not be considered jazz.
Do you have a valid rebuttal?

Terrible tats.

john cage's 4'33

Gershwin brah.

>not Jazz
>not classical

????

Fuckin Jew.

youtube.com/watch?v=ynEOo28lsbc

He was also a snitch and deserved to get shot.

I like.
9 times out of 10 my radio is on the local NPR station.
And (anecdotal) I have never known anyone that was a fan of jazz that was not a scumbag, commie or faggot (redundant, I know)

It's 2020.

youtube.com/watch?v=3BHyfYiBt5o

Gershwin is not jazz. It is pop and classical.

You're saying that jazz is a dumbed down version of classical? In what sense? how is it dumbed down?

I am not clicking your link. Rap is garbage.

This is a man who knows nothing about music nor fitness.

And you have no argument.
Post body and instruments.

I feel like that makes them look better. Black ink on paper skin is too jarring. My grandpa's tattoo from Korea faded from black to almost green by the time I saw it. Always thought it was cool. I guess he also wanted to adopt a Korean kid. Idk if he fathered a bastard or felt bad about murdering gooks and leaving orphans. Kinda sad that no matter what I do my life will be more tame than his

Even non-improvisational jazz is just simplified orchestral music.

On pale skin*

Just hype, no substance. A sensationalist attention grab. Worse than Duchamp's Readymades.

Kek none of you nigger loving faggots has a leg to stand on Based user calling out jazz "music"

Childish Gambino
aka: Donald Glover before he got a dad bod lol

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>How is jazz dumbed down classical?
>non-improvisational jazz is simplified orchestral
I asked you to explain your statement and instead you gave me another unexplained statement. Can you answer the original question please? How is jazz dumbed down classical?

You’re wrong. Jazz it’s own thing. The syncopation and rhythmic phrasing from African music was utilized by classically trainer creole musicians and created something entirely new.

How is it not? The lineage is obvious to the ear.
>Reeds and percussion (including keys) are a staple.
>Long winding pieces built on emotion and atmosphere.
>Time and key changes.
The only difference is they minimize the number of artists so they can all get their ego in and throw in absolute free for all "hit whatever note the fuck I want" ridiculousness and people lap it up as avant-garde.
Jazz ia for people that reach above their station and skills and have no discipline.

>Syncopation is an wholly African invention.
You have to be kidding me.

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get a load of this guy

Just because it has many of the same elements doesn't make it dumbed down by default though? Film is a medium driven by character development, writing, storytelling, and atmosphere, that doesn't make it a "dumbed down" version of literature.
>They minimize the number of artists so they can all get their ego in
what the fuck are you talking about? Do you know the names of all the people who ever played in Mozart's compositions? How about Handel? Bach? Is the fact that the music is under the name of Mozart because of Mozart's ego?
>jazz is for people that reach above their station and skills and have no discipline
at this point you're just making statements of opinion and passing them off as fact.

Dudes a faggot though

There is absolutely no way you could read what that user wrote and think he meant "syncopation is a wholly african invention" unless you have an IQ under 100

Till Lindeman

Comparing film to literature is not a valid analogy to comparing separate genres of music.
>what the fuck are you talking about? Do you know the names of all the people who ever played in Mozart's compositions? How about Handel? Bach? Is the fact that the music is under the name of Mozart because of Mozart's ego?
Do you not realize you are subtly reinforcing my point?
>at this point you're just making statements of opinion and passing them off as fact.
Wow, almost like artistic and musical taste is subjective.
Objectively jazz takes less true skill than any other form of music.

If you faggots like jazz then fine. I support anyone who supports "music" and everyone is free to like what they like.
But claiming it is more than pissing away is disingenuous.

Then his point was...?
And jazz is involved how?

What’s it like having room temperature IQ? I’d make an uneducated guess that polyrhythms are an African invention.

Have you ever listened to African tribal music? It’s insanely complicated and very impressive they were able to do make that happen without any real concept of notation or giving values to beats and shit.

>mow trying to find 1 in a negro tribal dance

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>not a valid analogy
it's not a valid analogy to you because if you accepted it you'd have to actually substantiate your point that jazz is "dumbed down" classical. Explain why it's not a valid analogy.
>do you not realise you're subtly reinforcing my point
please explain why.
>objectively jazz takes less true skill than any other form of music
what the fuck is "true skill? Explain THAT
jesus christ why do you keep making so many unsubstantiated claims? do you have some sort of allergy to making arguments? every single thing you say is like a sentence fragment at best, a half baked idea with the other half lost in the ether because you got distracted by a bird or something.

desu i think tats on dark skin look better than on pale skin. contrast isn't as jarring

>Objectively jazz takes less true skill than any other form of music.

You're tilting at windmills bro.

I'm just comfy listening to jazz.

youtube.com/watch?v=Hrr3dp7zRQY&t=138s

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yes rote memorization of music written with rigid conventions takes more skill than a piece like giant steps

jazz was about the ensemble before it was about the solo by the way. ever heard of a bandleader

It’s okay user that other user probably can’t even play an instrument nonetheless fathom even keeping up in a jazz ensemble

OHH. It makes sense now.. it’s confused and frightened by something it doesn’t understand.

>objectively jazz takes less skill than any other form of music

By what metric? I think you like to argue without really having a point.

>complicated
Okay, boy.