/fraud/ Steroids General

Before asking your stupid beginner questions, please do your own research and don't just blindly repeat what plebbitards tell you.

Don't ask us to help you dose your AI. It's very individual. or see CCFC's handy faggotry guide.

Oral-only cycles put strain on the liver and cause a shutdown of natural testosterone production for not a lot of benefit. Just pin and thank us later.

ABSOLUTELY no source talk.

This isn't a medical forum. Stop asking for medical advice and go to a doctor.

Don't ask us to help you schedule your pinning dosages. New website: steroidplotter.com/

If you’re going to ask for cycle advice, please include
>age
>weight/height
>time spent training
>BF %
>penile length

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Steroid injections are linked to heart disease.

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Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Good posting body though if that's actually you.

Yeah. I'm just an angry fat fuck. Y'all do you. I actually don't know if there are bad side effects to steroids.

Most of the heart problems come from years of uncontrolled high blood pressure. And/or tren. I just ran tren for 14 weeks and it's probably one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever done.

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I'm beginning week 4 of 50mg ED. Felt amazing the first 2 weeks, now it's less amazing but still pretty good, no sides really except sleep issues. I've been eating maintenance or slightly under and desu it is quite underwhelming recomp wise. I look pretty much the same, maybe a bit fuller, didn't seem to lose much fat at all. I got one vial left, so about 20 days. Thinking of going back to a real deficit. What do you think? Give it more time at maintenance or fuck it.

Which of these physiques are natty?

who cares

I'm trying to determine realistic natty goals and I'm convinced most of those physiques are roided

Your body is different from theirs. Your natty limit might be unattainable for someone else without roids, or they might already look like it without even lifting (think niggers). Maybe they look natty to everyone but are actually on test. It's a futile endeavor. Just lift and eat right.

>Just lift and eat right.
And by eat right, just eat a lot. Or not a lot if you're cutting. Also, do roids.

Don't give me that shit, those guys are on roids and we all know it

t. seething natty

Seriously? Can you imagine roiding for those bodies?

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I was using it on a bulk for the strength gains. I started at 100mg EOD and eventually went up to 150mg EOD once I realized that I was tolerating it well. It really fucked with my lungs though. Especially as allergy season hit.

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Lol

Laugh all you want, at least I don't use lethal cheater drugs to feel better about myself

cope

I don't use them to feel better about myself I use them to compensate for already having wrecked my body and so I can move more weight. Also not feeling sore the day after going hard at the gym is nice.

yet here you are fishing for validation like a fat chick on OkCupid

Is it possible to get a “steroid level” amount of testosterone prescribed by a doctor? This isn’t source talk because this would be legal.

Go to a sketchy anti-aging clinic. You can probably get test and deca if you say the right words or the doctor just gives minimal fucks.

first of all. No one knows. There is a difference between "is that guy natural" and "is this guys body attainable naturally". There are genetic freaks out there who look like freaks without steroids. Look at jeff seid for example. The guys a faggot but he literally has elite level genetics. Dude looked like a 25 year old roider at 15.
So when i say, some dudes body is attainable naturally, it doesnt mean thats true for you too.
Either way, lets begin. In chronological order from top to bottom of your lift.

1: roider. forget the size, i can see he roids.
2: yes natty and attainable
3: natty and attainable
4: definetely natty and attainable
5: 100% natty and easily attainable. the guys dyel
6: you will most likely never look like this. most people cannot build shoulders arms like this
7: you will most likely never look like this
8: 100% natty and definetely attainable for most people. hes dyel, just asthetic and lean
9: you will most likely never look like this. he might be on low amount of roids

Is it possible to get perception HGH from one of these places?

very unlikely. you could pin more than he prescribes you, but if he isnt a idiot he'll notice that you are draining your vials faster than you should

So your educated opinion is that only two of those guys do steroids?

Yes. It's just expensive as fuck.

Would it be cheaper to just buy some Turkish Norditropin online?

Which stack should I do if I don't care about my health? I want to deadlift 1000kg or die trying

No joke, not even a hint of jest or sarcasm, try running 5g of gear

HGH and cheap is not a thing. Also there is a huge difference between brands in terms of quality. A lot of generics suck.

I know but I'm think about adding a couple IUs of HGH to my cycle and I hear only the prescription stuff is worth using. Just wondering if the pharma stuff from the doc or the pharma stuff from UGLs would be cheaper over all

UGL is (almost) always cheaper. But sometimes it's just HCG. Make sure you have a trusted source before you blow $1k on this shit.

no, because i dont know. I cant know. You cant know. I can only guess. Maybe all of the are on steroids, maybe none of them are. I gave you my opinion for each one of em.
i'd say i think 1 and 6 are most likely doing low amount of roids.
7 is low roids or good genetics, meaning you'll never look like him
9 is low roids or good genetics, you wont look like him.

apart from 1 and 6, i would say all the rest COULD be natural.
the guys i called "natty" or "attainable" are realistic goals for the majority of people

Is there any disadvantage in taking orals like dbol/tbol at the same time as aromasin?

Should I take separately to avoid loosing potency or something?

I'm #7 in the list. Yeah I've cycled. People could probably get their naturally but I did it in 1.5 years from (150lbs-204). It would take a lot more work, time and dedication to get their naturally. This way I don't need to be as strict about diet, etc.

understandable user. nothing wrong with that. For me personally the best benefit of steroids is that i can spend more time being jacked and less time actually getting there. Fuck lifting for 5-10 years. Ill give myself a boost and be happy at the peak

My thoughts exactly. I don't care if I look like an /image roiding for this/ guy. Max results with reasonable effort is better than max results with maximum effort

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wtf is "low roids"? What do you consider low?

>being a roidfag
Bwcause gettin your tranny "gf"'s dick stuck in you wasn't enough

I took tren and fucked a feminine looking tranny. Tren is a monster’s steroid

Show me your gear stash, /fraud/

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Never seen tren-e at 250mg/ml

Ever seen Nandrolone cyp?

Just get CJC with no DAC and GHRP6, inject 100mcg of both 3x a day

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Never done nandrolone so I never looked into it's eaters, so no

Just got my test results. I'm at 443 ng or whatever the unit is.

>25 year old
>255 lbs
>5'10"

Should I hop on test?

do you want to hop on test?

No. Just want to know if it's hopeless at this point. I'm just started to consistently diet and lift, just wanted opinions based on the pure numbers.

you're healthy and have nothing to worry about.

well you're probably fat, but the test is okay.

can you recommend a good stash for my vials and pills? would be a bonus if it go a stealth look because gf would freak out if she finds out

Basically i just mean hasnt spend alot of time doing strong cycles. Maybe he did 300mg of test for 2 years. Or maybe He did 700mg but only did 2 cycles. Maybe He did 5 cycles but never trained hard or whatever.
The faggots here like to ridicule you if you are not bigger and blacker than ronnie coleman. Because if you are on steroids it means you are on test/tren/deca/primo 700/400/600/1500, 50mg dbol 30mg superdrol year round and therefore should look according to it. But most people dont do alot gear. And unless you have the genetics for it, you wont look huge unless you do some very heavy cycles.
Im at the border between natural and possibly gear user like some of the guys in that list. I did a 500mg cycle once, and then cruised on 125mg, and have done "blasts" on 250mg from there on. That was 2 years after i started lifting. I never had the chance to grow much beyond my natural limit, and i never will if i dont do more heavier blasts. Some guys might do multiple heavier cycles but they start as twinks so they will only end up at the natty/gear border like i did.
If you see anyone who looks like a human-sized brick you can assume hes blasting his head off for years.

How many grams of fat do I have to eat at the same time I take the pill to fully absorb exemestane/aromasin?

minimal amount. Its not important though. the potency you lose from taking it with not fat is insignificant.

Can you maintain your ability to have kids if you just blast n cruise for like 5-10 years? I've heard that usually if you just pct in a few months you can have kids again but I actually want to know how high the risk is. Thinking about freezing my sperm just in case.

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