None of what you said is an argument at all. Don't worry. I was stuck in that mindset of big compound lifts hur hur for like 5 years myself. Much longer than the average person is on here.
I could only take seeing guys much weaker than me, who barely lifted shit, who were bigger and more aesthetic than me, to realize muh big compound lifts was a meme, and all the examples people post about how X or Y guy is strong at the main compounds and is jacked, well those are all just the elites of the elite, their results are not what the average guy lifting focusing on big compounds gets, nowhere fucking close
It also doesn't help that so many guys are on tons of gear now, that it makes distinguishing what actually works so fucking hard. Figuring out what works without steroids in the mix is already hard enough, but we have to deal with all these fake natties and frauds as well? Yeah fuck its a joke.
Makes me realize why so many people think the whole lifting world is a fucking joke.
Daniel Lewis
between 5 and 8, if i get 3 sets of 8 ill increase the weight. just regular old seated curls nothing special like you mentioned. Currently curling 60lbs seated incline for sets of 5 strictly. OK I missed something too, right after the last set I will grab a set of lighter dumbbells and go to failure
Now I do think I have at least decent genetics but honestly IMO progressive overload with good form is #1 for natty lifting.
Daniel Watson
Modern bodybuilding is a joke. The entire sport is drugs, just accept it. Move on with your life and do something productive. If you like lifting get into olympic lifting or powerlifting. Or even something like shotput or discus.
Dude get a grip. I'm assuming you're the faggot OP? Here's the thing you and a lot of guys don't get. If you're trying to build your body there's a certain amount of "sculpture" involved that differs from person to person, based on their strengths and weaknesses. You talk about having bad traps and calves. Ok, so the solution is not drop shrugs and calf raises but to do MORE of them until your physique evens out. Also you need to think outside the box with your training. You want to build your calves? Do sprinting along with calf raises. Traps stalled out? Do deadlifts and T-bar rows along with shrugs. And while you may sperg out about the compounds every fit person should be able to perform these basic body movements. Get your shit together user, you will make it but not until you drop the bitchmade attitude.
Isaac Rodriguez
100% agree with you OP
ive been lifting consistently for 10yrs and i look like i lift and get mired all the time but my best feature is my traps and i do zero shrugs. Never have done them. My worst feature is calves and i do them 3x a week
And I'll also add >spent years focusing autistically and dogmatically That's another problem. Forget all that, there's also a certain level of intuition at play here. You need to know your own body well and see/feel what it responds to best and what it doesn't, and likewise you have to have a bit of an artistic eye to truly have a knack for aesthetics. Autism and dogma, though extremely popular in the fitness industry and especially this God forsaken board, kind of runs completely against that.
Austin Sanders
This is why we try to explain to people how important genetics are. And people here will try to say >c-cope! its about hard work! And yes hard work is very important, but genetics will still determine just how hard you might really have to work. I'm just like you...always had naturally big traps but naturally shit calves. Why? Genetics. Wherever our muscles attach (insertion points), that's it. That determines the shape. I did eventually build my calves up quite a bit, but by absolutely blasting them on the calf raise AND doing sprints, hill training, etc like I tried telling our pink wojak friend. Of course his solution for a lagging muscle group is apparently to work them less, not more. A bold strategy. We'll see how far that takes him.
>None of what you said is an argument at all. Don't worry. I was stuck in that mindset of big compound lifts hur hur for like 5 years myself. Much longer than the average person here. stopped reading there, you are fucking something up and are not taking responsibility for it because you are a retarded baby.
You are such a narcissist that you cannot accept YOU do something wrong, and instead blame your genetics. This is literally the one thing 99% of people in life can improve with hard work.
Alexander Ramirez
You are such a fucking nigger jfc, just kill yourself and be done with it, this is a fitness board not the "cry like a bitch because you don't want to be an adult" board, if you want that Yas Forums is three doors down.
