Game starts you play as new character Abby

Where does the lesbian bisexual love triangle come in though?

That would require good pacing and structure. It's edgier to just kill your protagonists abruptly. The Walking Dead does it, and The Last of Us has creatures that are sort of like zombies, so...

I completely disagree. I don't care that she looks like Hulk Hogan. I don't think that she's a tranny

It's the fact that they kill off both of the main characters from the last game in an attempt to be "subversive" and "make you question everything"

Ellie lives, it's Joel that dies.

Would've been one hell of a cliffhanger, that's for sure. That being said TLOU was never overly interesting, it's a very fragile IP.

Ah, the last leaks I read yesterday said that both died.

What's the point of switching to Abby if Ellie is still alive? Was it supposed to blow our fucking minds or something?

Ellie is supposed to turn into a mass murdering villain after joel dies

If they did what they plan on doing for part 2 but the opposite and for the first half of the game we play as Abby I could maybe get behind that and we switch over to Ellie about 2 hours before she kills Joel it would at least give the players a chance to care about Abby rather than just have her show up kill Joel and then play as her later.

>game pulls a reverse MGS2 and has you play as the new character first, then as the returning character that was in trailers
So many ways they could have made this work.
Druckmann is just a hack.

>trying to kill the dudes that killed off your father figure
>villain
Riiiiiiight.

I hope that the leaker only leaked the clips in a way to make it look absolutely dreadful and left out Ellie doing some really heinous shit that would make since as to why she is now the villain later on.

Killing the dude that killed your father Isnt bad either from the muscle girl perspective

Yeah it's so badly executed I mean the story could work if tweaked and better executed but this is what you get when a game is directed by an ultra progressive habitual fart sniffer.

>Would it really have been that hard?
Considering they've been hyping the character appeal of Joel and Ellie since before this plot was likely developed and that - and I have no solid numbers for this, just a hypothesis - probably >50% of the fanbase is even there just to wank about MUH DAUGHTER and other fantasies about Ellie, yes, it probably would have been impossible for them to not give you Ellie and/or Joel to play.

or if he wasn't a tranny and didn't brutally kill joel

I wouldn't take that bet, but the biggest reason I'm mad is because this hamfisted CYCLES OF VIOLENCE ARE YOUR EXPECTATION SUBVERTED YET shit is already fucking tired. Didn't the 90's and early 2000's already happen? Why are we still pretending amateurish misinterpretations of postmodernism and deconstruction are something new or worth exploring just because literal kids just figured it out?

It's the most generic motivation for a character you could possibly write.

It's a huge cliche but because this is a video game apparently the writers think they are on to something here.

But what about the cordyceps?

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Or they could have kept the focus on Ellie.

>Have Joel up and vanish. Skip ahead a few years.
>Ellie hears rumors from Joels friends that he could have saved what's left of humanity if he let her be operated on and didn't kill everyone in the hospital
>Ellie goes out to find and confront Joel, going to Seattle, then Vancouver BC, then finally White Horse.
>Loses her girlfriend and friends along the way, building intense resentment for Joel and what he did
>Makes it to White Horse, finds Joel died a week before she made it there.
>Ellie loses it and goes mental, kills everyone in the town, attracting infected.
>Game ends with her a broken mess fending off infected, fate is unknown.

>Story is still about how "revenge" is bad. Also deals with the fact that sometimes we never get closure on things.

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Maybe they should've made the tranny motivation be trying to save the world, and she needed Ellie for that. But they wouldn't give her away and shit, so in the end it would be like the inverse of Joel actions in the first game, where now the tranny needs to kill people to save the world.

So was the last of us part1 you silly goss

which is even worse for another cycle of shit the next game

i bet even they would think the revenge thing was overdone so i bet the next game will be about suicide or some shit. you have to see these things coming, Yas Forums

>What's the point of switching to Abby if Ellie is still alive?

I'm guessing it's a back and forth thing. Play as Ellie reacting when Abby does something the play as Abby reacting when Ellie does something. repeat.

>Get you to like her
this alone is monumental task

>Start game with abby
>gets player to warm up to like him/her
>Reveal that the villian heshe was chasing is ellie joel
>Start 2nd half as ellie joel
>Final fight of the game is abby lev vs elle joel
>you have to pick a side
>picking abby is ending 1 picking ellie is ending 2

no because she's a tranny

>>picking abby is ending 1 picking ellie is ending 2
nope, too much choice for the Druck, it's his way or the highway

let's see if you're right
this is a character that regularly kills men

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