Honestly, who would win? Not in the long run but on just 1 planet wide scale
Honestly, who would win? Not in the long run but on just 1 planet wide scale
Tyranids
Starcraft is just toned down Warhammer so Tyranids by a long shot.
Do Zerg even have a chance?
Tyranids
The hive fleets that are decimating half the universe are just scouts
My understanding is that Tyranids have galaxies worth of resources, it's just that it's main force is nowhere near WH40K space, just scouts
So are we talking the totality of the tyranid or just the ones seen in WH40k?
A splinter fleet. There are a ton of splinter fleets in the 40K universe, swarms that through circumstance have broken off from their parent hive and evolved in their own way. Let's just assume the Tyranids here are equal in size and number to the main Zerg force in Starcraft
Even if every Zerg unit was powered up to Queen of Blades level, they'd still lose.
I'd say they evolve faster and more controllably than Nids, who got outpaced by orks and baited by tau once
Tau poisoned their fleet
context?
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>extragalactic
>what’s terrorizing the galaxy is just the scouting fleets
>heavily implied that the full hive fleet is literally encapsulating the entire galaxy
>tyranid forms devour ALL organic matter and find uses for it
>are able to turn whatever they eat into a new tyranid form as the situation directs
>hive ships big enough to be able to literally eat entire battleships
>make a psychic null field just by existing
Honestly, I find it funny that you’re even trying to compare Zerg to Tyranids.
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you can't argue against that
Here’s the thing though: each of those splinter fleets are just one part of a mere scout fleet. The actual Tyranid force is probably somewhat different from what’s currently in the galaxy.
I said on a planet wide scale without a hive fleet supporting them
W40k stuff is too absurd to be compared easily
Tyranids have biotitans that could crush an ultralisk underfoot.
I understand that but, we have direct evidence in the canon of hormogants and termagants being isolated and turning into instinct predators
>Tyranids vs zerg
That's babby tier. Try tyranids vs zerg vs doomguy vs douk vs goku vs superman vs tom bombadil.
Even then, you have the things that house entire swarms of gaunts inside their bodies that can live underground indefinitely, you have hive titans which are like skyscrapers, you have tyranid forms that exist on a molecular level, their very fucking cells want you dead.
What does that have to do with anything? No said they didn’t have synapse reliance.
Because the scenario is one small fleet in equal measure to the Zerg presence and how would they fare in equal numbers. No true hive fleet support
Back in the nids' biggest jobbing phase
Zerg can be pushed offworld by military force. To actually get rid of tyranids, you have to make the entire planet inhospitable. And even then you have the ones that can live underground for a long time
Doomguy I think
Synapse creatures like warriors and zoanthropes don’t need the hive fleet’s presence to command and control lesser forms, so that’s a non-issue.
Tyranids can be pushed offworld by military force. It happens all the time.
>vs tom bombadil.
Geez user, why not a pubic lice, an ant, three ice cubes, and all the pudding I can hold in my pockets against the Phoenix Cluster's central black hole
You have to incinerate massive areas to get rid of the microscopic tyranid forms. Once a hive fleet makes contact with a planet, scorched earth becomes a necessity. Tyranids don’t really do isolated incidents, other than genestealers or the tentacle faced ones
Did fucking Matt Ward pen this?
>tom bombadil
You don’t fuck with an old guy that just wants to hang out with his friends and tree waifu
But swarms have been abandoned by major fleets before and have turned feral. Still as pesky as Orks
>no Flood or X-parasite
Let me know when the main event starts
It’s not common, user. You’re looking for any excuse you can to neuter the nids.
We have to, otherwise this isn't fair to the Zerg in their sector lmao
Oh fuck, how would Nids deal with Flood?
They still have their synapse creatures, which always have a connection to the hive mind. Tyranids without synapse creatures is an exceedingly rare occurance other than genestealers. This discussion is like trying to make excuses to see if a cripple could fight anyone and win, with how you’re trying to neuter the nids so hard. It’s pointless.
Overmind Zerg > Nids >>> Post-Overmind Zerg
Cerebrates and OM can only be perma-killed through specific or overwhelming Psionic weaponry, not to mention the Overmind is significantly smarter than the Hivemind.
Kerrigan's 'improvements' to the Swarm effectively crippled it in favor of giving her more power.
Flood vs nids is kinda different. One acts more like an infection, the other acts more like a hive of insects. I’d say nids win in a fight but flood win in a race to see who can convert a planet faster.
Plenty of planets pushed nids off and didn't have to burn the place to the ground to do it.
>long run
Tyranids
>just 1 planet wide scale
zerg
Most of those planets had scorched earth enacted on large areas of land or were already fairly desolate, like desert worlds
>what are hive titans
>what are tyranids operating at the cellular level
>what are spore towers
Xenomorphs
Pretty sure on Macragge they just hid in their fortresses and let the Nids come. And then fought the black legion and death guard afterwards and the planet was still fine...
Consume them like everything else
We aint talking full scale invasion nigga, just a lil tiny baby fleet encountering Zerg
They more or less couldn't. Flood can thrive at a microscopic level, which the Tyranids have been shown to not be the best at. The more Flood biomass the Nids eat, the faster they'll just be subverted and fall apart on the inside. Absolutely no contest if we're using Forerunner-era Flood.
That’s Ultrasmurf territory, of course it turned out fine. Can’t have the mary sue chapter lose after all.
Things that the much smarter zerg can deal with and have equivalents of, when it's on a planetary scale.
If the nids have access to synapse creatures or any sort of fleet they’re gunna beat the zerg easy
Tyranids vs Bydo would be a better comparison.
Shadow in the Warp may cut off the Wave beam functions of Bydo that absorbed an Rtype’s wave cannon.
Would the Nids just be able to adapt so that they couldn't be infected?
Adaptation at a rapid scale is kinda their thing.
Tiny elf girls solo tyranids for fun just using knives.
>zerg having the literal living scyscraper of rape that is the hive titan
>zerg having microscopic lifeforms capable of cellular warfare
>zerg having towers capable of basically telephoning in more resources and troops
>zerg being able to convert biomass at the rate that nids can
>zerg
>smarter than nid hive fleet
wew
Shit, meant for
Ultralisk, creep, nydus.
>zerg being able to convert biomass at the rate that nids can
Which is why when it's on a large scale the zerg can't win.
>just 1 planet
Imperial Guardsmen
Nids are just more powerful. Zerg, in my opinion, are cooler (except for Kerrigan wankery).
Visually, Nids are just a different approach to designing an alien bug species (which itself predates GW by a long, long shot). All Nids are Taur-like with 6 appendages, you can see it on any model clearly - some use them for locomotion, for some they are vestigal - Zonathropes levitate using their massive psychic powers, but they still have six little babby arms.
Zerg, on other hand, are truly diverse. Instead of evolving as a single species, they incorporated different DNA, effectively different species into the Hive. Lings look nothing like Hydras who look nothing like Ultras etc. They have building which are alive. They, like Nids, have spaceships which are alive. Hydralisk is one of the coolest aliens ever designed.
Also, I understand why Nids use living guns, like physically hold them, you need customization for your Warhammer game, but it looks tacky when you take real world problems out of consideration.
I do like that they strip the planets whole, though.
It depends really, but the Hive Mind make plans on a much larger scale. Sometimes it may allow defeat in one planet to win a system elsewhere
On the same planetary scale we're talking about in OP, it could probably go either way. But at large scale the Flood starts to fuck with reality in even way Tyranids can't.
Unless they scramble their DNA fast and on an individual scale, no. The only 'prevention' shown in Halo is Johnson after he used a ton of plasma grenades and it fried his DNA, and it's noted later on that the chances of developing a 'vaccine' from him would still be nearly impossible,
Also worth noting that this was with a pre-Gravemind Flood, and they ramp up EXTREMELY quickly when one forms.
What the fuck did I just read
>ultralisk
>20 meters long, 5 meters tall
>hive titan
>comparable in size to an imperial titan
>average of about 35 meters in height
>being anywhere near comparable
>creeps being useful with the psychic null field from nids
>nydus being comparable to hive towers which are taller than skyscrapers used to telephone in massive numbers and resources
Hive titan being the heirophant
Just look at this shit, it's a skull-scythe-slug. I miss when Blizzard did gritty art. Disney art is fin for some games, but not for gritty Aliens-inspired future war games.
I miss Metzen's art. It was gritty and sort of sloppy with just the right amount of edge.
>comparing ultralisk to heirophants
>titans
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