FF7 Expectations

What exactly were people expecting and wanting out of this remake? How was it supposed to come out?

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they dont know themselves user

this is unironically what they are crying over not getting

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I think 80-90% wanted it to just be FF7 in better graphics with a few more areas to explore and a bit more sense in the cutscenes/dialog.

What they got was shitloads more exploration than bargained for (not a bad thing), and extremely different cutscenes and story (not the best thing). The latter is why they're fucking furious. It's like if George Lucas did a remake of Star Wars New Hope but Luke meets force ghosts, goes to the Death Stars without meeting Obi-Wan so he never dies, escapes a totally different way, the rebels blow up the Death Star and Force Ghosts and luke have a fight where him and Obi-Wan "free" themselves from having to be in the plot of the other movies.

You can imagine how well that'd go too.

It was a lose-lose for Square. They shouldn't have even bothered.

All I wanted was for it to NOT have dementors and a time traveling Sephiroth.

Was that really too much to ask?

I'm pretty sure no one alive signed up for this hype expecting FUCKING TIME GHOST POLICE

something like the Resident Evil remake, same game with upgraded graphics + a few extras.

Instead were getting Nomura's gay fanfiction.

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Exactly what i got. If the story would stay the same i would've just played the original which was even the full game and i don't give a shit about graphics. Now with a new story im going to buy it.

>shitloads more exploration
No they didin't the Remake is linear as fuck, even KH worlds are more open world than this game

my expectation was that they'd fuck it up completely and they somehow exceeded my expectations by fucking it up in ways nobody could have predicted

Thats still a more faithful then FF7R could ever dream of being. Not to mention you actually get the full game with the mobile port of FF6 over this terrible """Remake""" that gives you a small portion of the plot that is padded out excessively, fucks up the original plot by adding time ghosts and Sephiroth showing up everywhere for no reason other then Nomura thinking it sounded cool, and all the meta shit throughout the ending that makes 0 sense unless you played the original game in the first place.
The only problem with the mobile version of FF6 is that the sprites look like ass, everything else is still there at least.

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Modern graphics.
Voice acting.
Improved ATB combat and expanded character progression.
Cover the entire game.
Sprinkle in some additional side content that expands on what was already in the story.

I could forgive the game not being turn based, Tifa being re-designed, and the game being split into several episodes, but the Time Jannies and Sephiroth going full Advent Children this early in the game was the last straw.

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The original with improved graphics, voicework, combat while staying true to the original plot.

FF7 with all the things picked up from the cutting room floor.

I kinda wanted a remake since it's called a remake

I wanted the same exact game with better graphics and new stuff. Not KH fanfiction.

We wanted Final Fantasy 7. Instead we got Kingdom Hearts.

The Sephiroth fight is straight out of Dissidia (using all the same attack names even), and we was straight out of his Kingdom Hearts fights there, so yeah.

He even does the rise up in the air and cast Heartless Angel thing. He does Hell's Gate, Scintilla and Octaslash, all Dissidia moves though Octaslash was also in Crisis Core. He also casts Shadow Flare, which he had in the original as well but the way it works is much more like in Kingdom Hearts, lots of dark orb traps around the arena.

Not complaining at all personally, he was always fun to fight in those games.

This right here. I had super-high hopes after playing the demo. It looked like things were going almost entirely how I was hoping they would. The change to how the reactor exploded was a curve ball, but I figured that the original game was vague enough about it that they could get away with reimagining that part.

But Time Jannies are just fucking stupid, and it looks like they're going to spin this off into its own thing rather than being a remake.

I know what I didn't want right off the bat and it was splitting the game into 3 parts.

The reason being is because they are now trying to milk as much as they can and will do tons of dumb shit to get a quick buck. So now I have to endure their bullshit 3X over instead of just in 1 shitty ass game.

They are essentially going to be killing me 3 times over with this 3 part release.

I didn't have any expectations as far as story is concerned, because having expectations is retarded. I'm going to play it for the first time in about 24 hours, and I'll see how I feel after beating it. Best part about multiple parts is if I don't like it, I'm not committed to 60+ hours to find that out, I can just figure it out in these first 30 or so hours.

>splitting the game into 3 parts
You wish it was only 3 parts.

BUT I PAYED FOR FF7 AND NOT KINGDOM HEARTS I DON'T GIVE A FUCK IF IT HAS THE KINGDOM HEARTS FIGHTS!!!!!

expectations?
stick to the original fucking story, why do we have to deal with time guardians and a time travelling Sephiroth?

I'm fine with Sephiroth being AC level. The problem is that Cloud and friends can keep up with him before the original game's narrative even explains who he is. He's supposed to be an unstoppable force, and the original had the right idea of never giving you a proper battle with him in his true form.

I was expecting the game to be mostly the same as the original, but I was also hoping that it would pull some crazy shit to fit the compilation or end up connecting to KH/Verum Rex

It wasn't supposed to be a KH fan fiction.

People were expecting an actual remake. Nothing more, nothing less.

plz Nomura! I want to have a normie wife and chad kid someday! Don't do this!

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it was supposed to come out and not look like it was fucking rushed, which it does

A graphical update with more content.

you will wait 20 years for Nomura to finish this "remake." It took him over half a decade to finish what little was in part 1, you really think he'll be anywhere close to being done with the rest of them anytime soon?

The saddest thing is that the best parts of the remake were stuff from the original game, some are even better than the original like Jessie's added characterization and backstory.

>can't explore anywhere except areas from original game which aren't even big and are connected by empty corridors
>no upper plate exploration - just a few story missions in huge empty lots

It expected a good game.

I think now that his full focus is on this now that KH3 is done it'll speed it up. Also Square is gonna push for these to get developed faster because Part 1 is gonna make them billions. I'm expecting Part 2 in 2023.

This.
It perfectly shows what could have been from a direct remake.

Can't wait to see how he's going to "expand" on the game now that you're supposed to be arriving at the world map.

1 to 1 same exact game, horrible translation included, but with BETTER GWAFFIX!!! Even then they would still bitch.

>was it too much to ask for Sephiroth to not appear during this game?
Yes, it was. Whatever you like it or not, normies only know of Sephiroth and Tifa when they hear FF7.

Kitase said he (not Nomura) wanted to expand on Midgar because he played the game again and it was shorter than he remembered. It's on their weekly videos about the remake

So this is what happens when you put flashy graphics in front of stuff that actually matters, like story, gameplay, etc..

that's what I was expecting when they announced that first part was going to be Midgar only. I expected full exploration of the city/free roam like Witcher 3.

Yeah they had too. No way they could get away without a Sephiroth fight.

>janky as animations like Cloud sliding across the ground to open a chest or activate a switch
>visuals/graphics going to absolute shit after leaving the demo area
>Sector 8 looks okay but the slums have some of the worst textures I've ever seen
>game looks EVER WORSE during daytime segments
>awful facial animations most of the time and NPCs look like absolute trash
>generic fetch quests all over the place
>no new areas to explore in Midgar
>just area from the original padded out into hallways
>no upper plate exploration - the only upper plate action is maybe 2-3 story missions that involve a fight in a giant square arena with nothing of interest
>voice acting ranges from decent to dogshit
>Sephiroth shows up within an hour to tell Cloud he killed his mom
>the underplate before Reactor 5 is beyond padded out and nearly put me to sleep
>music for Air Buster fight is the only boss track that stay true to the original - you never hear it again as it's back to orchestral shit for that boss theme
>ghosts showing up every 5 minutes to remind us about muh fate and destiny and other KH shit
>party AI is absolute dogshit and there isn't even a basic gambit system
>sewers and train graveyard are another example of shit going on for way too long
>some stupid ghost subplot at train graveyard that goes nowhere and makes no sense
>pillar fight was pretty cool but Japanese melodrama happens when characters have to talk for 10 minutes before signing out
>wall market is probably the only good part of the game but even that moved slow as fuck
>the wall climb is probably the ugliest part visually of the game
>then you reach shinra hq which actually looks really good so it's beyond jarring
>more boring slow padding with The Drum
>more REALLY FUCKING STUPID changes
>game goes complete KH mode shortly after and nothing of the original FF7 remains
>Zack is back too now because why not have another MC to make a side game with

expected a good game, not a rushed KH clone

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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DEFEAT LEVIATHAN!? FUCK THIS ROOM WIDE AOE THAT DOES 9999999 DAMAGE

Well he sure did a shit job at "expanding" on it then. Its not even expanded but instead just heavily padded out. This game doesn't even look at all like it had over half a decade of work put into it. It feel more like 3 max.

Because it did. remember it was outsourced and then they scrapped it since it was too shit and started inhouse. It's only had 4 years max work I can imagine

>Best part about multiple parts is if I don't like it, I'm not committed to 60+ hours to find that out, I can just figure it out in these first 30 or so hours.
you're a fucking moron

you're paying full price for a padded out quarter of a game and you're explaining how that is a good thing.

kindly kill yourself

That still doesn't excuse how bad it turned out anyway. We didn't need to spend 30-40 hours in Midgar with Midgar being padded out this heavily.
Not even mentioning the obvious influence Nomura had over the plot additions of ghosts and Sephiroth showing up all the time this early.

My only expectation was that it be better than FFXV.

And it succeeded.

One Winged Angel Sephiroth? at this time of the year at this time of the day at this part of the game localized at the end of disc 1??

Even YongYea couldn't express his disappointment with the ending

It's not even the end of Disc 1, it's like 1/5 of the way through it.

Barely, fucking BARELY. Some would even disagree.

the theme sucks too
the tempo is all wrong and it has no kick

Apparently the facial animations were done by an a.i. which is probably why Cloud looks like a pussy and Sephiroth is a lustful psychopath constantly grinning.

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Its kind of hard NOT to do that, even with as much of a travesty as FF7R is in the plot department. XV had how many years of dev time? Not to mention it started out as Versus XII, so you can add that to the amount of time it took to come out if you want.
It took so long they had to rip Nomura off of the game just to fucking finish it.

>Episode 1
Why people were expecting anything is the better question.

Looking at Youtube videos on this, everyone has like 5k HP, all my dudes have only 3k hp. Is everyone just waiting until they finish the story to unlock shit? One guy didn't even bother unlocking all their weapon skills.

>recreate game completely the same as it was
>Yas Forums complains that the remake is not needed and the soul is gone
>Add/change things to provide a fresh take on the game without tainting the original as the original is still there to be played
>Yas Forums complains it's too different
How do they win?