Since FF7 Remake is another failure, can we finally agree that FF12 was the last great FF that had a ton of content?

Always thought this game was phenomenal. Its a masterpiece really and incredibly underappreciated simply because its not like the other FF games according to these whiny fanboys.

>What was there to pay back in 2006?
Dragon Quest VIII. Which is widely considered a better game today, but got downscored back then because Dragon Quest wasn't as well known as Final Fantasy. Final Fantasy XII got huge upscores because of the series it came from and following Final Fantasy X. But in the years following, Dragon Quest VIII has risen to be in most websites "top 10 PS2 games" and Final Fantasy XII has fallen off said lists.

When are you people going to learn that "reviews" are a joke? Reviewers don't judge a game for it's merits. They just anticipate what their readers will like and score the game based on the hype the game has. Or do the opposite, downscoring a game heavily to create outrage. Both of which generate site clicks and therefore money in their pocket.

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You're flailing my dude. Defending paid reviewers, using professional reviews as proof of quality. Come on. Just admit you like FF12, warts and all, but it's a pretty middle of the road game at best. Pretty weak in its own series, but at least they added a lot of mediocre and bad games to make sure it's in the top half of the curve.

The gambit system isn't even bad. FF12 is pretty on par with series gameplay. What fucked up FF12 was a meandering, nonsensical plot where it's almost impossible to develop any investment in the stakes or characters.

>But in the years following, Dragon Quest VIII has risen to be in most websites "top 10 PS2 games" and Final Fantasy XII has fallen off said lists.
I need evidence that it was the case.

>Just admit you like FF12, warts and all, but it's a pretty middle of the road game at best.
I need evidence that they were paid for FFXII specifically and the previous FF games were honest, unpaid reviews.

Show receipts.

This. The only problem people have in these threads is that people elevate it to some high standard when it's really just a bland but high budget JRPG.

It was good but every time I play it, it feels like Matsuno/Ito really just wanted to make a Baldur's Gate style-crpg but just didn't pull it off. The combat system was just not that good. It was pretty braindead. It was like a waaay toned down and simplified version of RTWP crpg gameplay. The story was fine but the fact that the main villain didn't even know who the main characters were until the final boss fight was a bit disappointing.

It certainly had glaring flaws but it was indeed that last singleplayer FF that wasn't a huge steaming pile of shit.

>I need evidence that it was the case.
You're the one who follows review sites. Go look it up yourself.