>"Having once made the statement above, I have declined all opportunities to enlarge upon it or defend it. That seemed to be a fool's errand, especially given the volume of messages I receive urging me to play this game or that and recant the error of my ways. Nevertheless, I remain convinced that in principle, video games cannot be art. Perhaps it is foolish of me to say "never," because never, as Hegel informs us, is a long, long time. Let me just say that no video gamer now living will survive long enough to experience the medium as an art form and so on."
Looking back on this, was he right?
Video Games Can Never Be Art --Slavoj Žižek
Jace Green
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Austin Gonzalez
Yes, video games are not art. And that's a good thing since modern art is shit and even if it wasn't the factor that sets apart the two is the most important factor to making a good game.
Eli Parker
>A game is a structured form of play, usually undertaken for entertainment or fun, and sometimes used as an educational tool.[1] Games are distinct from work, which is usually carried out for remuneration, and from art, which is more often an expression of aesthetic or ideological elements.
Joshua Carter
Who fucking cares, art isn't real, it's just a pretentious word for pretentious people to jerk themselves off with, and whether a game is art has no effect on how enjoyable it is
Luis Sanders
Zizek is full of shit stop giving him attention.
Carson Wilson
>there will never be games that schizo commies will like enough to brand as art
he is wrong, there's been a few already and there will be more.
they just hold so little appeal to anyone other than blue checkmarks and golden stars, the general public didn't even notice them.
Jace Hernandez
based zizek
Chase Fisher
he hasn´t play rain world and that shit is art
Gabriel Hernandez
oh look, some "intellectual" that people go to when they can't think for them fucking selves. Just because he's probably praised for some area of his work doesn't mean his word on video games means anything. Anyone, no matter how respected they are, can have their arguments scrutinized like anyone else.
Evan Fisher
>implying Zizek could make a statement that long without even a single shniff
Yeah right, he never said that.
Lincoln White
The definition of high art as we currently define it? No, I don't think so, though maybe in the future. However, you cannot say that creating a video game isn't a combination of multiple other established art forms, and therefore, inherently an art form in and of itself.
Jack Cox
who cares if video games are art?
Jonathan Foster
the journos desperate to convince people that don't care that they're in a 'mature' and 'adult' line of work
Ryder Williams
Jokes on you nobody with a triple digit IQ takes faggoy zidzek seriously.
Jeremiah Rogers
I'm sorry, but... WHO?
Ayden Jenkins
>Turbo autist says more retarded shit.
I'm shocked by this news.
Thomas Lewis
People who say this shit generally know nothing about videogames, and are just pretentious windbags.
If music is art, storytelling is art, and literal art (drawings, 3D models, etc) is art, then videogames are fucking art. A medium that's made up of more art forms than any other form of entertainment in human history can't not be art. It's absurd.
Samuel Harris
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to post this again.
William Reyes
Who cares what a legitimately retarded commie thinks?
Oliver Flores
Isn't it weird how these ultra rich communists never want to distribute THEIR fortune, only everybody else's?
Elijah Sullivan
>taking anything zizkek says seriously
He also claims to of never had sex despite having children and talks about seeing his mother naked regularly, he's a literal autist and probably plays vidya in his free time and then shitposts about them
Cooper Bell
Even if he didn't have all those ticks and sniffs, who the fuck could ever take this retard and his dumbass statements seriously?
Alexander Thomas
seething JBP cuckold
David Hughes
Just take a shit all over his grave, why don't ye?
Bioshock Infinite is as far from art as you can get. System Shock is hokey horror as far aesthetic goes, and Bioshock Underwater is just aping Nyar Erdand's book.
Colton Hernandez
>all these triggered morons overreacting to stale reheated fake pasta
Brody Young
>all these newfags thinking based Slavoj actually said this and getting mad at him for it
Angel Jones
Michael Gutierrez
Mankind will find a way like always.
Charles Miller
A) Zizek's ultra-rich?
B) How do you think income brackets work?
Adrian Stewart
That sounds :sniff: unlikely.
Eli Johnson
>original tweet was today 7 years ago
Jose Smith
...Isn't that a quote from Ebert?
Jeremiah Young
No and I never want it to be, when games try to be snobby you get RDR2, when a game tries to be fun you get Stardew Valley
Hudson Phillips
Zizek is such a fucking hack. The only reason he's popular is because humanity as a whole has become dumber
Jaxon Clark
based
Nicholas Cox
shhh
Kevin Green
dude we're eating from the trashcan here, don't ruin it
Evan Rogers
He's wrong. Why stupid shit like pic related is considered """"art"""" and games like Yume Nikki not when the latter took more effort, is prettier to look at, has sound, it's open to interpreation AND you can take nice messages from it?
Even shit like GTA is art. It's super stupid to call one static image art and disregarding games despite most of them being pretty as fuck.
Jaxon Torres
I dont believe Zizek is dumb enough to say something like this
Isaac Kelly
>Why stupid shit like pic related****
Jason Reed
I can't believe this fucking thread. I hope this is all just a big joke and everyone is just pretending to be retarded.
IT'S NOT FUCKING REAL YOU FUCKING RETARDS
Daniel Watson
pleb
Eli Roberts
So what's this guy's thing? I've seen insufferable cunts that love to talk without saying anything of worth, just pure acts of verbal masturbation mention this guy.
Lincoln Reed
>take notorious Ebert quote and apply it to someone else
>retards get baited every time
Caleb Scott
Because this board is full of newfags and underage fags.
Matthew Martin
Other retarded commies. Commies don't have to try hard to sound smart.
Dylan Evans
100% correct
vidya is a medium the art has to be made within that medium.
it has not been made yet
Ian Jackson
Obviously not. Just because Zizek is smart about some things, that doesn't mean he isn't out of his depth about others.
Ian Collins
Nah
Games can be art but they should take different approach than typical games like did Hylics, Ori or Gris.
Gavin Lewis
HOW MANY DOGS?!
Jaxon Harris
>Dumbass say dumb shit
>Can't back it up
>I have 'declined all oppostuniries to enlarge upon it' because its a 'fool'd errand'
L M A O
Just admit you are a dumbass who say dumb shit and move on, dude.
Sebastian Walker
>take a notorious quote from a random irrelevant faggot
>attribute it to another random irrelevant faggot
>for some unfathomable reason, this works
who'd have fucking thought
Ian Campbell
Fake quote aside, the only things I've heard Zizek say about video games are that:
>he doesn't play them but is fascinated when watching his son play
>they are a perfect example of ontological incompleteness
>he thinks they're going to be the next big subject of analysis in the future just like how he does with movies
Hunter Collins
>Slavoj Žižek
Who?
Bentley Baker
Are games art? Maybe, maybe not. Does it matter if they are? No. I play games because they are fun and I enjoy it.
Jordan Cruz
Based Z
Hunter Morris
Clearly this man has not played Max Payne.
Jordan Ward
With the industry just fucking ignoring the potential of the media more and more? yes.
It's like if the movie industry decided to make all movies musicals because the music will sell the movies better as the media itself has no value.
Jackson Gray
Dialectical AF, what a chad.
Jonathan Nguyen
Why anyone listens to anything this stuttering old fool says is baffling.
James Gomez
>7 years
Ethan Moore
next time you try to merge an existing pasta with zizek, you need to add more:
>*sniffs*
>and so on and so forth
Tyler Myers
>an expression of aesthetic or ideological elements.
Cool so video games are essentially art2.0