FFXIV demonstrates no qualities related to mmos. No discussion of FFXIV relates to discussion of mmos.
With the exception of an occasional "WoW is shit" thread, why doesn't Yas Forums ever talk about MMOs anymore?
Jose Hall
Sebastian Clark
>they're not the point
they're the point when you want to discuss it, and they're absolutely the point to newcomers. If there's no intrigue, and the game world has been distilled down to an optimal leveling guide and fasttrack to endgame where all the other fucking players are, they're going to be less interested in playing.
Andrew Russell
Something isn't not a MMO just because it doesn't have your favorite MMO features. FFXIV is indisputably a MMO.
Carson Thompson
take the RoRpill, op
Josiah Mitchell
>Massively Multiplayer Online game
How often do you ever interact with people outside your guild or the random LFG system?
Isaac Garcia
Well, yeah, you're not wrong. But there are other ways of having a game draw you in besides mechanical obscurity. The regular gameplay loop really takes a second foot to what an MMO can really be.
Evan Perez
Just being something isn't designed the way you want it to be doesn't mean it's not part of the genre it's part of. You don't have to like something for it to be in a genre you generally like.
Cooper Garcia
I can't think of a popular game today that is like any of the classic MMORPG's.
Guild Wars 2 is more of an action game with, IMO, interesting world design that encourages exploration. It's fast, and the ability to dodge, avoid damage makes it feel less like an old RPG
Guild Wars 1 comes closer to an RPG, with proper builds designed to deal with certain situations, but it's still very action oriented, and the party based combat and mission structure make it feel more like an action RPG.
Alexander Rivera
Obviously there's no objective definition for "mmo", but c'mon, there are clearly very broad aspects of wider community interaction that good mmos have always heavily emphasized that modern wow and ff14 have completely and utterly left by the wayside. Calling ff14 the same genre as a game built entirely on community interaction just because they both happen to involve playing persistent characters is disingenuous. They're absolutely nothing alike.
Jose Sullivan
Who's dick I would suck for a proper Gw1 Gw2 hybird. Or at least a actual pvp community.