Please just give us deathmatch back instead of this shit

Please just give us deathmatch back instead of this shit

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Tried one match of it. I was playing marauder and the other dude was playing archvile.
None of us knew what we were doing so the doomguy just ran around in circles while we spammed demons at him until he died.

battlemode is fun you fucking loser

deathmatch is more fun

For who exactly
Either side is cat and mouse for 20 fucking minutes battling shit netcode and tripping over the map

I want invasion first. I don't care about deathmatch or battlemode

It's a neat mode but I have no idea what they were thinking making it the main feature of multiplayer.

Yeah, if it was one game mode id probably play it once and drop it, but they made this a selling point. Locking trophies behind it is making me hate it more

it's because they took the feedback of 2016 multiplayer being garbage and decided it meant "deathmatch is totally played out, daddyo. we want new innovative game modes, not standard modes but made well"

i have no idea why is it separate gamemode? i thought the demons were supposed to invade slayers in campaign?

the thing is 2016s multiplayer wasn't bad, just generic. a properly developed doom deathmatch mode coulda been kino

If Quake Champions wasn't poorly made abandonware they could've easily made a crossover event between the two to cover for the lack of Deathmatch. Something like what happened with Halo Reach when Halo Anniversary released. A new Doomguy champ, a fuckload of DOOM Eternal maps, etc.

Of course consolefags would be left out, but I don't consider people that play shooters with a controller to be human so it doesn't really matter in the end.

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For some reason depsite being delayed the game still isn't finished. There's no invasions and there's only one master level.

I saw that option in the menu and I have no idea what its for

Their thoughts were that nobody would care about a regular deathmatch mode, so why bother? 2016's multiplayer was panned, and nobody plays arena shooters.
Battle Mode is a risk, but it would have more of a chance of people caring about it than a normal deathmatch mode.

Battlemode is more fun than 2016's dogshit MP. Play QC if you want a modern arena MP game.

At the end of the day you just can't make a classic deathmatch for this game because of the simultaneous console release. Since you can't slow time for everyone on the server every time a player pulls out the weapon wheel, you're stuck with the standard boring-ass two weapon limit from literally every other slow as fuck console FPS. The lackluster (but admittedly gorgeous) multiplayer that Certain Affinity shat out in 2016 was basically the best you could do given that fundamental limitation.

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2016 deathmatch was shit. But instead of trying to fix it they gave us this.

Describe how you would fix the 2016 MP.

There was nothing wrong with 2016 MP apart of Loadouts.

Don't need a weapon wheel, just "next/previous weapon" buttons. If you're picking up more than say 4 weapons in a single life then you've probably already won.

The idea is to try and find a way to bring Single Player combat and apply it to multiplayer

It's beyond fucked that doom Eternal and 2016 don't have co-op. if not the campaign there should at least be an endless wave Horde mode in the depths of hell

fucking loved 2016 multiplayer i don't understand the hate for it had a blast felt like halo when it was good

I don't mind Battlemode but with all the enhancements and shit I really wish they kept Deathmatch

Get rid of loadouts and put weapons on the map. That instantly makes it playable. After that it just needs tweaks.

It was great, crazy map design, playing as demons, huge customization, fast as fuck

I think most of the hate came from the fact that the single player was a massive breath of fresh air compared to other shooters that were out a the time and then the multiplayer was completely uninspired. Made it look worse in comparison

>console players need a weapon wheel that SLOWS DOWN TIME just to pick a gun.

I do not understand

So literally just Halo on 1.25x speed?
I'd rather just play a real arena shooter at that point.

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This mode is fine, but it was absolutely a mistake for it to be the only one they included. The standard fare should have been in as well. It's crazy to say, but they should look at last year's Modern Warfare as an example of how to do multiplayer. That game has like 20 modes and all of them are equally as fleshed out and polished. It has something for everyone and as a result does not get stale because of how much variety there is. This mode is fun but will not be populated or interesting in a week. This kind of mode always dies off fast as nothing more than a minor novelty that most people only play for a couple of days before moving on. Same thing will happen to Resident Evil 3's multiplayer in the next couple weeks.

That's just the reality of it. You either make the weapon limit two and make one controller button switch between them, or you make the weapon limit 4 and have them use the D-Pad. Anything else takes too long to work in a fast paced multiplayer game.
Again, people that player shooters with a controller have brains smoother than polished marble.

nobody wanted that desu so why would they add it again. Didn't you watch joe rogan lol?

It had the absolute worst fucking hit and damage indicators I've ever seen/heard.

Also no arcade mode and the campaign has a ton of cut content they removed (probably last minute) to sell as DLC which is why the campaign story is an incoherent mess. The first level of the game was not actually supposed to be the first level, there is stuff that happens before it that they cut.

This game needs a coop survival mode

sounds like you just need to git gud and not make excuses for being a failure of an abortion.

Yeah, I liked it too. It was a better Halo game than 4 and 5.

blame Bethesda for that before Id most likely.

I did think it was really weird that the game starts with the Doomguy having a spaceship without them explaining why, but then I stopped caring.

I hope a DLC adds in the chaingun guys because now it's the only doom demon without an HD model

I have two master levels though what are you talking about?

is 2016 Doom any good?

>we lost Snapmap for this

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>and the campaign has a ton of cut content they removed (probably last minute) to sell as DLC
Do you have a single fact to back that up or are you just pulling shit out of your ass?

Oh, what the fuck?
I've beat the game on Ultraviolence and I only have ARC complex.

Battlemode is cool but how don't you just throw in a basic deathmatch mode?

Yes, it's great. Better than Eternal for sure.

NOBODY USED IT EITHER MY DUDE

I knew full well that they were dropping deathmatch, but I thought that this was going to be players invading other people's campaigns. What I wanted the most out of multiplayer was for them to have improved SnapMap. The removal of snapmap when everything else has been upgraded so much really hurts my soul and the general longevity of the game.

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You're missing cultist base then. You only got that for preordering.

Yeah, absolutely. On higher difficulties it's amazing.

the other one is cultist base which was pre-order only currently at least

Eternal is better in every single way.

The idea of an RTS Player Vs. FPS Team sounds interesting.

is the game worth it for campaign? Really wanna play a good campaign been awhile since i got off

>no one
>implying there's not a shit ton of questionable maps on the server
Okay, you keep lying to yourself.

Fuck me I guess. I cancelled my preorder cause my

>Every match devolves into one asshat trying to kill slayer and other asshat flying above map hiding behind cover and just stalling for time
Shits cancerous as is, I only plan to play it for the milestones.

Yeah. Unironically the best shooter campaign since Wolfenstein 2013 and Doom 2016.

was this on release day? that might have been me as the arch
did you lose the first round and win the next two?

No. It absolutely is not. Eternal is shit, a huge downgrade in every aspect.

my what user? did candlejack get y

SnapMap was just a sad attempt to help people cope with the fact that they were releasing a DOOM game without modding.
It was basically just there to pay lip service to Carmack's old ideal of welcoming mods and open sourcing.

They'll probably add it later as DLC

Imagine believing this.

I dickride eternal but there's some stuff 2016 definitely did better.

For one thing 2016 didn't pretend you fucking care about DOOM lore.
Doomguy was a blank slate instead of being a master chief clone, and the atmosphere was more horror.

Gameplay wise Eternal is definitely better though. No questions

Not for $60, it's short and has no replay value. There are no other modes like arcade mode to extend that either. Wait for a sale and play 2016 instead.

Same user. My area is quarantined so I didn't feel like walking up to GameStop when I could've just downloaded it at home. Regret missing out on the free doom 64 though

It amazes me how much TORtanic has thoroughly broken this place, going on seven years later.

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Doomguy has never been a blank slate.

It's always reassuring knowing regardless of the franchise someone will be screaming OLD GAME GOOD NEW GAME BAD

>Doomguy was a blank slate
actually play doom games
>the atmosphere was more horror
doom psx and doom 64 are more horror than 2016

eh, it's only $5, don't sweat it.

bruh he wasn't given a name in the first two because he was literally just an avatar for the player.

2016 handled his character better than eternal. He doesn't give a fuck about anything other than killing demons, and his design is generic spaceman, a nobody

Eternal tries too hard to make him a badass space chad. It's the extension of all those memes and shitposting about him being the ultimate unkillable protagonist but it's not executed well

Battlemode is awesome fuck you OP

Found the primary demon player

There's been a pretty good fanmade sourceport for 64 for quite a while, well before Beth decided to.
Doom64 EX.

An avatar or blank slate does not have a backstory with characterization. A blank slate is just that, a character you mold with your own choices. It's nothing grandiose but Doomguy is not a blank slate.

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okay 2 people my bad

The guy fought back 6+ Hell invasions, how is it wrong for him to be treated as a 'badass'?

I see what you mean. He has a backstory, but it wasn't really in the game. I prefer seeing the Doomguy do cool shit then cutscenes stopping to tell me that I'm really tough and hecking badass

Joke all you want, but you're wrong. You're just not man enough to own up being wrong.

>6+
Where are you getting that number from?

shit netcode makes it impossible for a competent slayer to lose unless he's up against two equally competent pain elementals

this but for your post

I love playing Slayer you scrub

Different user here
I always treated it like: Doomguy is a blank slate, he's just your avatar in the game. It's you who is the badass, he is just a nameless dude.

Also even if you like him being a superhero, it was more fun when he was just a really pissed off dude who's very good at killing, not a literal demigod.

Are you implying I'm wrong? Prove it then.

Pain elemental is the least fucking fun demon to fight. Players are either hovering constantly out of range or keeping that fucking shield up 100% of the time. Needs to be rebalanced