To be honest, Noc looks better and more realistic than Cloud. I think it's the skin textures and the way the engine renders the characters. SE's in house engine looks much better than Unreal 4. Why aren't they using it?
To be honest, Noc looks better and more realistic than Cloud...
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Jacob Cox
Isn't luminous engine a fucking nightmare to work with which is part of the reason why it took fucking forever to make FFXV and why KH3 development was scrapped and switched to UE4.
UE4 seems to just be faster to work with than that nightmare of an engine by the evidence of 2 big titles like FF7R and KH3.
Dominic James
Luminous has more graphical potential, but is a nightmare in every other department. Even the final patch of FFXV is janky as shit and makes most platforms sweat for no reason.
Ethan Cox
The problem with using their own engine is that they keep ditching it after every game and having to start from scratch.
Brandon Howard
Luminous was buggy as fuck and FF7R looks better. You have to cherry pick to make FFXV look even remotely decent.
Liam Barnes
One of the reasons might be the fact that realism isn't always better in all metrics, or that realism isn't always intended. For example, I'd rather look at a game with FFVII's art style than FFXV's.
Sure, the engine may be difficult to work with, but the lighting model itself is engine-independent. You can port/re-implement it in another engine. It's possible as long as you have a per-pixel function with generally used mesh/world information available.
Jacob Cook
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Angel Morris
VIIR is going for more of a cartoon look than XV. The old lighting wouldn't work.
Sebastian Gomez
>more realistic
that's an inherently negative thing.
FF7R has a much better art style.
Andrew Foster
UE4 has serious transparency problems so they render the hair using dithering and hope the temporal antialiasing will fix it. I hate it.
I dunno if FF15 has the same issue but I remember older Final Fantasy games (FF13 in particular) having great hair because they rendered it with proper translucency.
Landon Kelly
XV does it too. Not just on hair either, look at this mod.
Leo Reyes
no it has no transparency problems idiots.
if they would have used textured transparency it would look fine.
it's an inherent flaw of the PS4. it can't handle NVIDA hair fx so they have to turn the effect quality down and that's what creates the dithering because of the way the effect works. the higher you set the effect quality the more it goes away.
the effect is not even compatible with normal anti-aliasing.
Henry Watson
Define realism and does it even apply to any of those fujoshi fantasy faces.
Camden Myers
You're spouting nonsense. UE4 has transparency issues because they use a deferred renderer and all the transparent objects are done in a separate forward rendering pass. It would have had sorting issues and no shadows if they had used textured transparency.
Lucas Cruz
This, they're using the old checkboard technique saturn used which worked fine on crts and actually made things look really nice. Not the same these days. Been around since dx10
Robert Cox
Levi Roberts
Yeah, I was extending my point about realism not being always better in all metrics. One can infer that they didn't port the lighting from FFXV because that specific art style or lighting model isn't intended. Of course, the reason could be anything. I'm just mentioning that it's one of the things that points to FFVIIR's lighting being simplistic by intention rather than unintentionally "worse" while going for realism.
Pretty sure the PS4 uses an AMD GPU. Why would they implement Nvidia's Hair FX? It can't be turned down, because you can't even use it in the first place. It's not even compatible. They're probably using transparency maps, or something else, but definitely not Nvidia's Hair FX.
Michael Turner
Aiden Cooper
FFXV's characters were designed with a realistic artstyle in mind, VII's were not.
If you bring up advent children your mother will die in her sleep.
Andrew Powell
Yeah i think hair on XV looks better while 7R has plastic cosplay hair.
Camden Cooper
you have no clue about the engine or how to use alpha values you fucking idiot.
the dithering is due to the shitty effect they use. it does the same thing with XV in their luminous engine.
Tyler Martin
>SE's in house engine looks much better than Unreal 4. Why aren't they using it?
the luminous engine has performance stability issues, it takes a powerful PC to make FF15 run nice at a good resolution, also it was supposedly not pleasant to work with
Ayden Brown
barry... i'm sorry, but cloud won.
John Myers
Jordan Martinez
Advent Children isn't realistic though.
Luis Roberts
they should just use unity. its much easier to work with than unreal
Jose Collins
The Unity version of 7R would be hilarious. That engine is so bad.
Wyatt Brown
>Why aren't they using it?
It's apparently a bitch to work with.
Why else would SE move KH3 away from it MID DEVELOPMENT to go to Unreal?
Nolan Young
nu-devs learn how to use unreal in school and those are the people making modern games generally.
this is why these games look worse than they should, the quality compared to older games just isn't there.
Christopher Torres
Nvidia's Hair FX is an approach to rendering hair based on Nvidias algorithms. it can be adapted for any graphics card. you don't need an Nvidia card to run it.
Evan Murphy
Jayden Long
My favorite is the blackface glitch
Connor Bell
Right looks better. Left's hair is a separate model awkwardly glued to his head.
Luis Wilson
Ryan Nelson
hair on the left looks like plastic.
Elijah Taylor
I was hoping xv-kun would start sperging but I guess he's not here, and no one is posting any FF7 images.
shit thread
Nolan Evans
> I think it's the skin textures and the way the engine renders the characters.
It's more that UE4 uses Lambert shading for the diffuse component while Luminous probably uses Burley or something more modern. That's why in UE4, the lighting falloff at angles facing away from the light source is often too steep.
Juan Foster
Good point.
Jayden Gonzalez
I liked FFXV. The overworld, graphics and combat were enjoyable. The boys deserved a better campaign.
Xavier Morgan
both look way too Asian
Leo Hill
I've been saying this since day one and you people didn't listen.
I like both games though.
Gavin Peterson
There's nothing in FF7R that looks as good as Altissia.
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Luke King
I want both of them to sit on my dick
Cameron Jenkins
laughed audibly
Joshua Garcia
HairWorks isn't being used by FF7 you twat, it wouldn't even work for those ridiculous hairstyles apart from maybe Tifa.
Lucas Baker
>consoles
Yikes bro
John Harris
Not even base PS4 looks that bad. Probably a bait webm made on the PC version.
Luke Rivera
>boat is gigantic compared to the city
wtf?
Henry Johnson
They both look like uncanny valley anime characters to me.
Nolan Thompson
It's a small yacht, characters for scale in this picture.
Elijah James
Can't you faggots shut the fuck up about your Internet boyfriend, for fuck's sake. We're actually having a discussion on Yas Forums of all places and you, inbred retards, insist on smelling farts. I'm fucking sick of niggers like you parading literal who shitposters every thread.
Fuck off and die.
Blake Perez
He has a chin like a Chinese girl using Meitu.
Jack Sanders
What the fuck is going on with Gladio's elbows?
James Parker
Calm down spergy I wasn't even complaining about him. This thread is going nowhere is the point I was making.
Carter Lee
Why do they look so ugly?
Jonathan Allen
>This thread is going nowhere is the point I was making.
That clearly a fucking lie though. Anyone can read your previous post. Now shut your fucking mouth before I put you in your place again, "spergy".
Benjamin Howard
That's exactly what I said, spergy.
Dominic Jackson
Cloud is relentlessly handsome. Noctis is relentlessly handsome.
Bentley Flores
Call me spergy again, retard. It totally doesn't make you look like you're compensating for being called out.
Anthony Rogers
FFXV had some hilarious weirdness
The sound/voices in that game all sounded like they were recorded in a locker room.
Something about the animation in that game made me feel like I was waking around in a huge tech demo.
Jayden Ramirez
spergy
Joseph Walker
Are you this obedient to your Internet boyfriend too? You might get in trouble, young man.
Easton Thompson
My favorite was when I walked into the market in Lestallum, and the entire thing was unloaded except for the NPCs. I could walk around the empty courtyard as the game slowly caught up to me.