Is a post scarcity society possible? What would be the political repercussions of such a thing?
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the slightly scarcity items would dramically go up in value like Film tickets & concert tickets & so on.
People will always want "someone" more than others, it is human nature & what has made us survive for so long!
"something"
Not someone sorry.
we are already post-scarcity. the fact that a majority of the work force can sit at home and not starve to death proves this beyond any doubt.
Everyone would have their own low-power fusion reactor in their home which will be used to create feedstock for micro 3D printers.
It will be like repicators but without all the flashy lights and shit appearing out of thin air.
We already live in a post-scarcity society. The Jews have used usury, central banking and mass immigration to construct a system whereby we are obligated to labor for them for all eternity while our standard of living constantly falls. If we rid ourselves of the parasites we could all live at or above our current standard of living while working less than 10 hours a week.
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The sheer concept of entropy precludes the existence of a "post-scarcity society".
If we begin using 100% of the energy produced by stars, stars will eventually become scarce. If we manage to generate pocket universes to escape entropy, those pocket universes and the energy needed to create them will become the new scarcity.
No, time is a finite resource.
No because niggers, poos and chinks will keep breeding until even infinite cold fusion energy becomes scarce.
This.
In 1936 if Irving Fisher's theory of the economy which influenced Getmany's Gottfried Feder - who nationalised the bank in 1939 - had been implemented it would have revolutionised the world. The only problem we have is the money-problem when private debt money is scrapped all other problems fade away.
Nothing else matters until we scrap the private debt money creation system. Then we can move into a post-scarcity world.
In the so-called dark ages of middle England after Edward the Confessor had expelled the private money lending Ludean tribe (again) England enjoyed peak prosperity. A normal man only had to work 12 weeks a year to sustain a family of 10 for all their wants and needs. That's why massive fuck off cathedrals and churches were built in this period because men devoted themselves to pursuits for the greater good.
>because niggers
stopped reading right there
Shut up you word salad dick head.
Take your arbitrary twisting of Op's premise and drown yourself in Goldman Sach's cafeteria water dispenser.
even in star trek there was scarcity, for example dilithium.
human services will never be able to be post-scarcity.
A completely automated city that caters to every human need would be post scarcity.
There are no political problems, all problems are economic. You fix the economic problem by creating sovereign money owned by the commonwealth of the people in an Aristotlian democracy and you fix all problems over night.
Post-scarcity means not going without material 'needs' I.e food, shelter, healthcare, education and opportunities. It does not mean being able to select 57 different shapes and sizes of dildos. There's a different between wants and needs. The former is irrelevant while the latter can be achieved today.
>Is a post scarcity society possible? What would be the political repercussions of such a thing?
With a population well under 1.5 billion people it's easy game.
Fuck off Henry Kissinger, sorry I meant moron.
The problem is biological.
People would breed until resources became scarce again.
Fix that first.
It would require a non-existent technology to assemble molecules and an imaginable amount of energy. We are centuries away from post scarcity.
>word salad
What part of what I said didn't make sense to you? I'll go through the trouble of spoonfeeding if you can take the modicum of effort necessary to explain yourself.
Nope, social capital is never post-scarce and any manner of person will try and signal higher social status than another.
We can already be post scarcity in many different basic ways but you have the problem of the tragedy of the commons. Take housing for example. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to be homeless. We can in fact house every single person in a reliable and comfortable way.
In fact, in many places of the US we do with various federal, state, and local welfare programs. But have you been to any of those places? They go from brand new to run down last-world slums in just a few short years. People given something never truly appreciate or respect it. Furthermore they expect the ones who gave them the thing, in this case the housing, to do all the work to keep it and the surroundings in good condition.
I had a friend move into a neighborhood that wasn't dirt poor but on the cheap side and he remarked that he couldn't understand why there was so much trash all over the neighborhood. Like people just threw it on the ground. He was baffled "they live here too! Why would you do that to the place you live?!".
Poverty is a culture. Being poor is a culture. It's such a culture that those who try to do things to bring themselves out of poverty are seen as traitors to that culture. Some people find it hard to let go of people in their social circles no matter how poisonous they are to them.
Bottom line: we do not have the cultural maturity or unity to tap into the post-scarcity nature of many resources in our society. Incidentally, this lack of maturity and unity is why all socialism and communism fails. It is unfortunate, but I am beginning to see that it's the capitalist system that might be the only driving force for as many people as their are trying to do better for themselves. I fear that right now if you gave stuff away you would see a huge drop off on that.
They had fucking replicators.
so do we but everyone's too stupid to realize it yet, just look at all the retards in this thread
No.
People aren't rabbits.
People have less children now because they survive due to advances in healthcare etc.
>Canadian education system
Not only that, but think about this:
Ok, so in this storyline currency is abolished because of replicators. But, crew members would do chores for each other for replicator rations. Or they would place bets over holodeck time. So even if there was no physical money because replicators and holodeck could shit out everything imaginable, people still felt the urge to have just a lot bit more than the next guy, if possible.
And of course there were also the Ferengi. Pathologically greedy species. They're pretty much the jews in the Star Trek universe. Only real difference was the big ears instead of the big noses.
No fuck off it's not a metaphysical mental wank thread about dyson stars. We can have a post scarce material need civilisation now. Go wank off to 2D sci-fi cartoons and warp drives elsewhere
why did you feel the need to prove me right?
let's see if you can learn something new today, the related image are elements that were created in a low-power plasma fusion reactor.
Don't believe me?
Good, go look up SAFIRE and prove it doesn't work
In Star trek, the only reason post scarcity is possible is the replicators
The ability to break down any materials, recombine them into any object needed, combined with a seemingly limitless energy source solved 75% of the problems
The other 25% was allowing for infinite land in the form of space exploration.
Realistically it would take mankind at least a thousand more years to get to anything remotely similar.
Extremely efficient, clean, portable energy is so far from a reality.
Combine that with the ridiculous amount of tech needed to break down and rebuild molecules. That might be feasible in the next 200 years or so.
But terraforming combined with near light speed travel will be required for the space expansion.
What's more likely is that within 100 years we'll have ocean expansion as tech allows people to essentially build their own islands. Countries already do it, but eventually we'll make a complete engineered process for Mass production
Might only be 50
>We can have a post scarce material need civilisation now.
how? where does this matter and energy come from? your assumptive soiboi media-obsessed asshole?
Ferengi were the French
They're introduced as a quasi colonial power that relies on trade agreements with new populations, specifically because of a belief that profitable transactions and negotiations minimize their military need.