How does anyone believe this? Have you ever seen the army moving corpses in Italy during the flu season, or morgues running out of space?
This happened with severe restrictions. What would it have been like without?
Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,000 (compared to the 119...
Jayden Stewart
Aiden Diaz
Isn't the assumtion that once infected people gain significant immunity untested?
Not a doctor, but have heard some doctors who have said pulmonary tract infections (like common cold) often do not create lasting immunity.
Camden Clark
I say this thinking I already had this thing a little over a month ago. Still taking precautions.
John Gutierrez
I'm also not a doctor but aren't there 350 000 recovered cases by now? seeing headlines 51 people reinfected would there not be more? it could mean a lot of things: false tests, fearmongering maybe a couple of them did get reinfected but its a very small number.
Also we already know how coronaviruses work, we know how previous viruses work, how our immune systems work many of these point to there being some immunity. they're doing antibody tests and people have them more than previously tought
just my opinion
Isaac Ortiz
Reminder that the hospital crisis in Lombardy that is happening right now is actually yearly ruotine during flu season and nurses are being instructed by the doctors to shut the hell up about this year not being any different.
Hudson Richardson
igmchicago.org
Testing for SARS-CoV-2 in the United States is currently targeted to individuals whose symptoms and/or jobs place them at a high presumed risk of infection. An open question is, what is the share of infections that are undetected under current testing guidelines? To answer this question, we turn to COVID-19 testing data from Iceland. The criteria for testing within the Icelandic medical system, processed by the National University Hospital of Iceland (NUHI), have also been targeted at high-risk individuals, but additionally most Icelanders qualify for voluntary testing through the biopharmaceutical company deCODE genetics. We use results from Iceland’s two testing programs to estimate the share of infections that are undetected under standard (NUHI) testing guidelines. Because of complications in the deCODE testing regime, it is not possible to estimate a single value for this this undetected rate; however, a range can be estimated. Our primary estimates for the fraction of infections that are undetected range from 88.7% to 93.6%.
John Green
>Germany's actual death rate could be as low as 0.37 per cent.
If we need 80% to be infected to get herd immunity, and 0.37% of the infected die, this would mean final death toll of ~246 thousand dead in Germany. For US, it would be about 977 thousand dead. That's more than US Civil War (620 thousand).
Logan Thomas
Who the fuck wrote this article? If 15% of europeans already have it, that means the R0 is higher than expected, therefore herd immunity would kick in around 70 to 80% if not worse. We're nowhere near herd immunity, except maybe Bergamo or Brescia
Easton Campbell
>a study
>posts no link
People with antibodies are the ones infected you retarded monkey subhuman.
Noah Lopez
our real number of deaths could be as high 30000 or 55000. This is a very reasonable number.
however we dont have a fucking idea, at all, about the real number of positives. It could be from half a million to seven million and up. The official number is 157000 cases but nobody believes that.
So it depends a lot