>Fruits and vegetables are essentially devoid of nutrition save for calories if you're lucky >Need to eat a profound amount of vegetables to get any meaningful vitamins, 1/2 lb to 1lb of vegetables a day for 100% DV of vitamins. >Much more practical to take a pill >Fruit is literally diabetes incarnate, just raw sugar, now meaningful nutrients, vitamin C much healthier to take in a supplement because lack of sugar >Refers to "Fruit and veg" as a "basic food" which is again ridiculous These are luxury itmes because they provide no pragmatic or practical nutrition. >Literally a mindless sack of shit parroting pro-consumerism propaganda on the grounds of "health" >Unable to understand negligible nutritional value of "fruit and veg" despite literally being trained in medicine >inb4 "lulz faggot, furit and veg are nutritious" >The reason nutrition facts are not on raw fruits and vegetables is because of how markedly devoid of any meaningful nutrition they are.
Look up any "Fruit and veg" on this website. Nothing but calories, minimal to mild amounts of vitamins. You need to eat 1/2 to 1lb of even nutritionally rich vegetables to gain 100% daily value of a nutrient. Very few exceptions like kale.
>Fruits and vegetables destroy the planet, 90% of their existence is unjustifiable. >It is giving something, that is 95% water and 4% sugar, 1000 free plane rides a day across the world. >Literally shipping 95 tons of water, and 4 tons of sugar, and at best 1 ton of multivitamin >Giving water international plane rides instead of drinking local potable water >Shipping water across the country >Not just water, this is water that can literally rot and spoil. >50% of this water shipped around the world just rots and spoils and is never consumed. >This is consumerism
This is someone else's argument proposed somewhere on /gif/. Now I know veg aren't what they used to be but what should I eat then?
Meat only. Or meat with certain low-carb vegetables if you want (Atkins approach). Carnivore diet gets memed on here as “that weird shit Juden Peterstein does” but it is life changing. If you can bring yourself to browse Reddit, /r/zerocarb has quality info and resources to get started. Otherwise, you can find info on Yas Forums or on Dr Shawn Baker’s website.
Reading through it will sound ridiculous at first. Every single aspect of health, from the brain to the immune system, is improved by eating the way humans naturally evolved to eat. Your skin will be flawless, your testosterone will be maximized, I swear to god it even makes your eyes look different. Like nofap, you can spend forever looking at sources on the internet to tell you what you want to hear, but upon trying it, you will know immediately it is the truth.
The agricultural revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the health of mankind.
Eli Nguyen
Fruits and vegetables haven't always been like this. We bred them into these monstrosities
Christian Roberts
There are worthwhile fruits, too. Mostly berries. Seafood (including sea vegetables) are also a good idea. A lot of people don't get enough iodine in their diets.
Cameron Richardson
Also
>diet isn’t a political issue
The health of a nation is absolutely a political issue. Furthermore, diet has always had political implications. From the beginnings of caste-based society, upper classes have reserved meat for themselves while forcing the peasants to subside on grains and vegetables. Ancient Greek philosophers recommend banning meat from a conquered population to subjugate and weaken them.
Up into relatively recent American history, the push for plant based diets goes hand in hand with circumcision and alcohol prohibition; all three were major agendas of the Seventh Day Adventists. Yes, Kellogg the cereal guy actually invented cereal and pushed genital mutilation because he was in a weird religious cult that held power in both the grain industry and the government. If that’s not Yas Forums tier discussion I don’t know what is.
Today, where a bloated and corrupt pharmaceutical industry profits off of chronically sick people, a dietary approach that relieves many chronic conditions is not only a political issue, but an imperative for securing the existence of our people.
Benjamin Cook
>What do you recommend people eat then? Animal feces to get your dose of b12. >Carnivore diet But we're are not carnivores. We have to cook meat because we can't digest it naturally I'll look into this Shawn baker though. Alot of the shit for everyone saying go vegan or go carnivore haven't really gripped me. I feel far safer just playing the balanced diet game. I'm guessing diary is a no no in carnivore diet?
Xavier Barnes
That is true. I believe eating fruits in season is good. In moderation of course, you know this if you’ve ever gorged on berries and felt like shit afterwards. The primary staple of your diet should be red meat.
Btw I have been doing this for a year now and the changes in my health are phenomenal.
Jacob Long
I'm on a modified keto diet, basically all I eat is meat and i've never been this lean in my life.
Eli Scott
Vegetables are an essential part of most single pot recipes. Raw fruits and vegtables by themselves may not make up an entire meal or all the nutrients you need, but that's why you cook them with meat and starches.
Jaxon Garcia
What is steak tartar what is sushi. Of course we can digest raw meat you fucking idiot.
Thomas Baker
Humans evolved in situation where meat was rare luxury. That's why overeating meat is bad and plants are healthy. Modern world is sick in this sense too and so are you.
Fruits and vegetables are literal poison. Zerocarb carnivore all the way and I demand it of my friends ad family if they want to continue to be a part of my life
Parker Reed
>Need to eat a profound amount of vegetables to get any meaningful vitamins, 1/2 lb to 1lb of vegetables a day for 100% DV of vitamins.
OMG! A HALF POUND TO A POUND?!? IN ONE DAY?!? IMPOSSIBLE!
OP is literally a limp wristed idiot. Enjoy your Hot Pocket and Pringles...
Jason Davis
People who ate more plants than meat. Did you forget the gatherer part?
Evan Sanchez
should still eat them, veg especially. i take a greens powder that has 60 dif phytonutrients like beet extract and spirulina, but veg still has benefits like fiber and diet variety. fruits are a good source of energy, processed sugar is what will kill you, stick to fruits and learn to enjoy them as a desert type of food instead of blasting doritos in your face.
Ryder Thompson
Literally 99% of the even so called "based and redpilled" lads will think you're bullshitting sadly. Let them eat MUH 5 A DAY
Noah Gray
Basically. You stalk animals and nibble on any edible plants you find on the way.
Owen Watson
1lb = 450g. thats like barely half a plate of vegetables. you should delete this thread it's embarrassing
Dominic Sanchez
Humans are omnivores, dipshit. You’re as retarded as a vegan.
Landon Harris
Have you faggots never heard of the importance of fiber? Fiber (the majority that is composed in fruit and vegetables) is used to improve your gutflora which is extremely important for your overall health (immune system, absorption of macromicro nutrients, digestion of foods)
Research your shit before you post
Jordan Smith
Yeah i fixed alot of my immune issues on keto/carnivore, doctors wouldnt help for shit
Thomas Allen
Dairy is fine, as long as you’re white (not even joking).
Some people exclusively take in beef, water and salt. No spices, no seasonings, etc. This is generally those who are doing the diet for autoimmune issues or allergies, where they cannot handle certain foods. Most carnivores will eat eggs, cheese, etc. and occasionally spices or sauces. Some will give up coffee and tea. Most wont drink alcohol, or at least, will drink only liquor and do so in moderation. Beer is literally carb-filled estrogen juice.
My fellow carnivores irl have jokingly made a rule that you can’t eat a plant directly, but you can steal from it using fire or water (meaning coffee, tea, and smoking a joint is ok), because plants are all jews.
If you’re not going full carnivore but you’d like the benefits of a low carb, high protein meat based diet, look into Atkins or other keto-based approaches. Again try to rely on meat as much as possible. Since the quarantine I haven’t even been full carnivore, I’ve been supplementing my diet with whey protein and peanut butter or I would go bankrupt.
Lincoln James
this is retarded. you shouldn't be getting all your nutrients from one food group, they compliment a good diet
Nathan Lee
Injuns were Hunter/Gatherers; that worked out pretty damn well for them, eh?
show me all the vegans/vegetarians getting diabetes from fruit
i'll wait
Aaron Gutierrez
fruits and vegetables mattered more when we only had distilled waters iirc
i would say a balanced diet is proper (we did evolve by also gathering nuts/berries after all) and fruits and vegetables can be important, depending on what nutrients you have available through every other option.
Colton Adams
did you consider any other alternatives besides going straight into 'meat-only'?
there are millions of people that have issues eating anything because their gutbiome is absolutely fucked from their trash diets throughout their lifetime when the simple fix was to go back to eating the hunter-gatherer way (fruits/vegetables then occasional meat)
there are ancient chinese and indian practices - ayuverda for example teaches you to eat certain foods at certain times, combining them with fasting completely turns back your eating abilities to that of our ancestors, which they had no issues in eating anything
lmao name a carnivorous animal that eats dairy. retard. carnivorous animals don't even produce lactase to digest it, only north european humans produce lactase into adulthood, every other animal and human on earth has the lactase encoding gene switched off after weaning.
Jacob Lee
>need to eat literally 2 kilos (because 12% conversion ratio b-car->retinol at optimal health and age) of carrots to get DRI (which is complete bullshit to being with) of vitA yeah, it's complete bullshit
Charles Garcia
I will only start eating meat again when they solve the methane issue and also don't use antibiotics.
Hudson Bell
I noticed this after I prepped. There is nothing of nutritional value in vegetables
And consideration all the overpopulation it's easy to see why they couldn't care less about killing us. Their will always be more bodies to vampirical leech off
Justin Barnes
First part of your post is right, second part not so much. Hunter-gatherer doesn’t mean we’d go out, kill a mammoth just to take a small portion and “balance” our diet with crushed up grass and roots. Humans are obligate carnivores, seeming the most nutritious and digestible food first (meat) and if necessary, surviving on whatever else is available. You have to realize too that most fruits and vegetables in their modern, edible forms did not exist prior to human domestication. Wild bananas or corn are clumped up seed things that you wouldn’t even recognize as food. Salad is not food.
Trying to survive on a “balanced” mix of carbs and fats doesn’t even make any logical sense. Your body burns carbs first, then fat. If you’re living on carbs, the fat is being stored, because presumably you’re failing at hunting and that’s why you’re eating carbs. That’s also why stress is higher and serotonin is lower on a modern diet compared to a meat diet, it’s the diet of a shitty hunter who doesn’t know where his next meal’s coming from.
Caleb Cruz
This. OP is fuckin' SEETHING that mommy made her(him) finish his green beans.
Vegetables are man made btw, show me where broccoli grows in the wild
Alexander Bailey
Canned goods? Really? Let me guess...you have a problem with "textures" and Mom never made you eat frest goods?
Kayden Nguyen
There’s a reason they are called MICRO nutrients. You don’t need that much of them. Meat only and every day is a poor ethical and moral choice because you promote the systemic slavery and restriction of free will of conscious entities. On the contrary for many thousands of years humans were not good enough hunters to eat meat in any kind of proportion. Our biology was evolved and adapted from plants. You can actually hit almost all of your daily micro nutrients from a simple morning shake. Im not a vegetarian by any means actually pic related is going to be dinner tonight. But meat only makes you weak because your body is not dealing with any phytotoxins and it can ruin your gut microbiome.
Pomegranate Juice and OJ as the base. Ice 1 cup green leafy (vit A and K) 3-6 brazil nuts Hand full of pumpkin seeds Chia seeds Sunflower seeds 1 ripe banana 1-2 cups of fruit of your choice, berries mango etc TBSP coconut oil or MCT oil.
That plus a can of sardines hits almost a complete daily value of micronutrients. Not to mention Omega-3 fats as opposed to 6.
>What is steak tartar what is sushi. Of course we can digest raw meat you fucking idiot. >There's also ceviche, which is pretty tasty. Not efficiently at all. Do you know how strong carnivore stomach acids are? Or their dental and stomach structures differ?
Logan Turner
Fruits and vegetables are full of special compounds that can keep you healthy and extend your life. This is why these should be eaten, provided that these are heirloom organics.
If you're eating fruits and vegetables for calories or vitamins, you're not eating right.
Evan Lee
>What do you recommend people eat then? Eat meat. It has ALL the nutrients you need and they are much easiler absorbed by the body. Even though the "paper value" may be less in meat, the amount of vitamines and minerals the body can extract is MUCH higher in meat than in veggies and fruit. The biggest meme right now is that fruit and veggies are super healthy for us. Their not at all compared to meat
Isaac Rodriguez
Must be absolutely mush and pizza flavored to go down babies gullet.
Henry Ramirez
it's a sign of your body working as it should be, fiber is extremely important and most people who don't eat it have had a trash diet since young and are on a fast track route to having severe organ issues down the line
Kayden Wilson
beware the (((meat))) industry shills
Ryan Davis
Fruit is veg is pushed because its cheap to produce and highly profitable, Look into how many of our fruits and vegetable were bred to even be edible for human consumption
Has it occurred to you nutrition labels don't list everything that's healthy about fruits and vegetables? If you don't even know what polyphenols are then stop making these threads and instead do some research. Fruits and vegetables are essential to long-term human health. Going without plant foods kills off your good gut bacteria and feeds bad bacteria that leads to disease and premature death. Also, contrary to popular belief it is consumption of meat that leads to diabetes not fruit: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3942738/
Why? Because fruits have fiber and are very unlikely to cause diabetes.
Elijah Gonzalez
You should be able to buy organic grass fed beef that doesn’t use antibiotics. Look up local farms in your area, not sure how it works in Germany but here you can buy directly from the farm and it’s much cheaper.
The methane thing is retarded Green New Deal bullshit. The plains of America and Europe used to be covered with billions of bison, and the environment was fine, but somehow now you’re trying to claim we have too many cows? It’s just another thing to get white college leftists to moralfag about
James Fisher
So in short form:
Eat local veggies and fruits that are high in nutrients, low in sugar and water, or at least eat less of the high sugar fruits (treat like a snack to replace those salty fried corn/potato chips). If possible, forage for local berries and mushrooms. Eat localy raised meat or hunt or buy from a hunter. At the very least, do not buy any products that come from outside your local area, expanded at most to our state/province. Only exception is multi-vitamins and other nutrient supplements.
Jonathan Adams
Humans are, at their root, frugivores. Not carnivores, not herbivores, not omnivores, not vegans eating chemical GMO bullshit. Most of our diet should be fresh, whole fruit. Our digestive system, from teeth to stomach to intestines is originally designed for it. It's why we like the taste of sweet -- to tell when fruit is ripe and "fully charged". It's why we have color vision. (It's also why major fast food chains [pic related] use the colors of red and yellow -- the colors of fresh fruit, known to subconsciously trigger hunger.)
Straying too far from that diet keeps the pharmaceutical industry a trillion dollar industry. Most of our "disease" is self-inflicted from us not eating the correct food for our species.
Thats why you should eat fruits and vegetable everyday. Not just meat, thats ridiculous
Connor Torres
broccoli is no more man made than todays cow
Jeremiah Richardson
>canned sugar beets, sweet corn, and pineapple >nothing of nutrition No shit. Those are just substitutions for white sugar in recipes.
Jackson Hill
Why are you acting like eating half a pound of fruits and vegetables is impossible?
A banana, and some berries/orange in the morning. A serving of broccoli at lunch time. A small garden salad as a snack. Some potatoes at dinner time. There you go.
Jacob King
A completely overlooked factor is what’s called “antinutrients”, aka oxalates and other unfriendly compounds that fuck with your digestion and prevent you from absorbing nutrients. Gluten is a major one, all those gluten free moms were unironically on to something except that they chose to eat stuff like rice bread and gluten free Nutella instead of cutting out grains entirely.
Josiah Barnes
Have you tried a meat based diet before you knock it, pretty close minded familia
Lincoln Hernandez
Everyone should read The Dorito Effect
Luke Bell
OP. You stupid, stupid nigger
This is 1.25lbs of tomatoes. This more than 200% vitamin A. This cost me $1.50
forget about high sugar shit and supplements, know where your products come from instead and how it's made/produced
Eat vegetables, fruits (fiber is very important for gutflora and your ability to eat anything) supplemented with nuts, grains, dairy, meat AKA eat a balanced diet with no manmade shit
David Reed
This, i eat lots of fruits during the day and always full of veggies in what i eat. I cant imagine myself eating just meat. Fucking retards in this thread i swear
Thomas Mitchell
You couldn't find most supermarket fruit and vegetables in the wild, we selectively bred them for hundreds and thousands of years to give a viable output for consumption.
Berries, nuts, sea vegetables, and wild meat are some of the only commercially ready foods that have remained pretty much unchanged by mass agriculture.
Cameron Gray
Because he's reposting pharma disinformation. The whole industry relies on us eating like shit.
I eat around 2 kg of fresh fruit and a kg or 2 of starches and veggies every day. Add a few free range eggs for God tier diet.
Grayson Myers
Enjoy crippling sugar addiction and starvation. Frugivore is one of my favorite memes because every once in a while some YouTuber will actually fall for it, and hit the wall even faster than a regular vegan. Bitches come out looking like Emperor Palpatine in like a year
Austin Sanders
hur dur what are bioflavanoids, polyphenols, catechins, and terpenes
majority of the population are completely uneducated in these matters lad, good job on highlighting these things
there's a reason all these cancer patients who are told they will die suddenly go into a crazy research and find that vegetables/fruits and their micromacronutrients are the solution half of the time because their gutbiome is absolutely fucked
Charles Smith
Been doing it for years and look like a Greek statue. This is God tier diet. Fuck you for keeping my people from it.
You're jewish, aren't you?
Charles Thompson
You've seen one of these before, right? These are pricier. Each one had about 250 calories
Fruit and veg starve Africa? /ourfoods/ confirmed.
Julian Howard
Its not preformed vitamin A you absolute retard
Nolan Collins
>Greek God
Post body
>Jewish
I’m not, here in the US they’re the ones that nonstop push the vegan shit.
So if anyone is unswayed by anecdotal internet reports of health benefits, give the carnivore diet a try just because it’s the opposite of what jews want. Once you try it for a month you won’t go back.
Robert Torres
Technically. Both walnuts and quinoa are seeds. Also plants
>vegan Nope. I repeat: Humans are, at their root, frugivores. Not carnivores, not herbivores, not omnivores, not vegans eating chemical GMO bullshit. Most of our diet should be fresh, whole fruit.
> Post body No wank material for you faggot
Dominic Smith
It's crazy that you guys keep think it's my view when right at the bottom I tell you I took this from someone on /gif/ and would like the input of others on the topic rather than going off topic on a porn board
Matthew Bailey
>Show me all the vegans dying young.
How much time do you have? Child actor Raphael Coleman something age 25. Antifa/vegan activist.
