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Hmm. So tell me. You think its gonna get mad max level of insane out there in the next few weeks?

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Start arresting these mayors. You can turn them over to NG

> Closing liqour stores
Do. Not. Jesus Christ, did we learn nothing from prohibition or the WoD?

> Prohibition of all public areas
Yes, lock everyone indoors with zero access to excercise, based on zero evidence of spread from distant contact. Be sure and waste resources while putting police at greater risk of exposure when people call 911 because someone is alone at a park walking their dog.

> ban on concealed carrying
Not enforceable without pat downs, and guess what no one wants to do in an epidemic.

I think these people are code black from panic and they are going to kill more people with panic-striken decision making than the disease ever would.

Yeah, I don't understand the closing of public parks. They are closing literally everything except for grocery stores which the ONLY thing that is doing is creating a bottleneck for people to get infected through. I'm almost positive after this is over the "experts" many of the governors are listening to are PR people and not health officials.

Cities cannot issue ordinances to such a degree. Kid Rock is in the same boat over his bar being shut down and is telling his city to go fuck themselves until the state themselves says otherwise.
Furthermore there are nearly half a dozen SCOTUS cases that rule towns/cities can NOT set up their own gun control regulations. You can even look at Burien, WA recently getting BTFO'd over their tax.
Do what you want, nothing will happen.

Because it's not about the virus. It was never about the virus.
We're amidst another recession and they're doing everything they can to detain and control the population because the US government and general societal balance is hanging on by a fucking thread.
Everything you've seen till now was a preemptive move to corral, calm and distract you.

>Furthermore there are nearly half a dozen SCOTUS cases that rule towns/cities can NOT set up their own gun control regulations.
You're confusing why cities can't do this.

Cities can write their own gun regulation, they can't write their own gun regulation when the state has preemption in place meaning the state has control over gun regulation prohibiting cities from making any stricter regulation. There are no SCOTUS cases saying Cities can't pass laws like that.

WA is not one of those states. There are 5 in total that allow it.

This, it’s about whether or not there is preemptive laws in place.

Its always been about the virus you retard.

The US was caught, through pure ignorance, flatfooted when it came to preparing or handling the outbreak of the virus. It started when the Intelligence Director learned of the corona outbreak in the US and instead of telling anyone he decided to keep the information secret for 2 weeks while he sold all his stock for 1.6 million dollars. Next it came from the president himself denying the virus was in the US, then later saying it wasn't a problem, then later calling it a hoax, then when it really broke out all over the US he claimed it was under control when it most certainly wasn't. Testing has been artificially limited because the CDC wouldn't approve of outside testing and the CDC's testing itself was botched out of pure negligence because they used the wrong coding for the virus such that the test couldn't tell the difference between a positive, negative or fucking water. Now there are tens of thousands of cases in the US largely undiscovered because testing has been so artificially short and tons of politicians still calling it a made up disease.

tl;dr lol

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Trump saying the virus doesnt exist had literally no play on anything

All the while many states that are trying to do something about it are equally flatfooted because all of their responses have been reactionary with absolutely nothing proactive about them. Only NOW are schools closed and businesses shutdown and only slightly later have bills and payments been frozen. With our number of deaths and cases along with the death rate we're literally on par to becoming Italy in a few weeks as our numbers are doubling every few days.

Ever still people are being denied a test, their employers are fucking with their pay and they're without a paddle because the US has no worker rights.

>real active cases in the US
>its not real, its a hoax by the dems to shit on me lmao

It actively did, there was so little information purely based on that ignorance. There have been multiple reports of CDC experts warning him about there being a potential outbreak in the US as early as mid january and he didn't want to mobilize anything to help prevent or do anything about it. Only a month later did he finally close the borders and ban flights to afflicted nations but it was too late as dozens of cases already made landfall in the US. That level of ignorance has put a massive damper on the economy reversing all progress made since before the 2008 recession.

You're implying people listen to him to begin with lmao especially to such a degree

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You realize as the commander in chief he has direct control over the CDC and all of that shit that he actively held them back from doing anything about it including making tests available

"Anyone who wants a test can get tested"
This was a blatant lie.

Chuck Schumer is a fucking neoliberal retard, the travel ban wasn't even remotely early. The US already had cases before he banned travel. If the US wanted to be early in an effective sense it would have done this WAY back in early january.

>If the US wanted to be early in an effective sense it would have done this WAY back in early january.

If you remember, the President was defending himself against an impeachment at that time.

>states are totally free and capable of setting up their own quarantine
>refuse to do so while actively calling trump a liar
>now reaping the fruits of their labor
>this is Trumps fault, he should've forced us into quarantine
Haha what

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I don't want to get inbetween you 2 fighting but.
The market ETF Stocks have been falling Steadily since mid december to mid january.
When people started getting sick in November in China is when it started to physically affect the market. That Ripple effect is being felt in the US market now.
Then when the Sauds did that oil shit 2 weeks back well that just sent everyone into a sell panic because of the negative % losses they were seeing in their portfolios.
I personally know someone that pulled all their stocks out in mid JAN and now shes going to be a new Multi millionaire.

Who gives a shit about the impeachment he has all the power to do it and didn't do anything.

Telling people that it's a nothingburger and less dangerous than than flu was the direct cause of thousands of infections that could likely have been avoided if Trump had ordered a strong response to the virus as soon as he learned about it. It's because Trump did not take the virus seriously and approach it with strong leadership from the beginning that the economy is getting fucked hard and society in general is experience major disruption.

>>states are totally free and capable of setting up their own quarantine
And I said they were ignorantly flat footed the entire system ignored efforts to contain the disease.

Bill Deblasio, mayor of NYC refused to close schools because he thought that kids couldn't get infected which was absolutely false. Instead he kept schools open which actively contributed to thousands of people getting sick. Teachers had to go on strike just to force him to close it.

I never said trump should have forced them into quarantine. I said the entire issue started with trump and it rippled hardcore through every state.

I can hate trump and hate local politicians who did nothing proactive to stop it.

This was in January, what do you want him to do wave a magic wand and make it go away?

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THIS.

They wont get away from a Military facility.
If they're thrown into a county jail or something their buddies at the Sheriff's office might let em out. These are Enemies of the State.

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The end of january? After the US had hundreds of cases by that point? I literally said it should have been done back in EARLY january while everything was blowing up. He had all the knowledge and power to do something and didn't

>what do you want him to do wave a magic wand and make it go away?
Don't be obtuse, theres a massive difference between proactivity like closing international travel BEFORE infected people made it to the US and being a reactionary and closing them long after dozens of people were infected and in the US.

The virus is irrelevant at this point. What is relevant is all the power grabs going on and the historic moves in the global economy. We are seeing an offensive blitz for the information age. I don't know what they're planning but so far I think it's working. There is not any reliably actionable information to DO anything and the lemmings are falling right in line with SELF IMPOSING marital law on themselves.

Those of us with eyes to see are in for spicy times. Don't take any vaccines.

We nearly doubled the amount of debt we had since 2008. No progress was EVER made.
>you can lead a horse to water AND make them drink
Are you implying people were being fed the same or singular line of information or something? You're forgetting the public was rapidly being bombarded with shit from all over proving Trump wrong on a near 5-minute-basis. People had the information themselves still and chose not to act or do relatively anything.

No there was ONE known case, with the lack of testing there were clearly hundreds around spreading it from person to person both in the airport and around the city.

Don't be stupid about there being only one confirmed case.

even (((california))) is letting you walk outside

>Everyone else is to blame EXCEPT Trump
Do you work for Project Alamo? Like god fucking damn.

>Don't take any vaccines.
What do you actually expect to come of it?

He thinks vaccines injector nanomachines that control your mind.

And how exactly do you plan to capture them and get them there without catching a kidnapping charge while you're at it?
Do you seriously think that mayors of large cities arent buddy buddy with politicians too?
You're having quite a laugh.
>handcuff them and capture them, presumably at gun point
>drive them to the nearest NG base
>"whoa who are you? Who is that? What the fuck are you doing?"
>its the mayor of Bellingham
>"what, why?"
>idk, laws and shit
Gonna work out real well

>tens
>not millions
>every asshole has been going to the grocery store and bringing their snotnosed kids with them (because they closed the schools for you to bring them everywhere obviously, not keep them home, and youre not a complete fuckup of a parent you cant leave your kids home alone for ten minutes)

It's Italy, and Lombard (Lombardy?) in particular that has everyone worried. They have police with rifles shaking down anyone outside their home who cannot prove they are traveling to the grocery or the pharmacy, after a third day of record setting deaths.

And it's not going to change a fucking thing, because people alone out for a stroll aren't what's spreading the disease there.

I'm saying no ones to blame for anything you fucktard

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No I think vaccine testing is a fucking joke and it's all a money making scam. The theory of vaccines is sound. The practice of vaccines in current year is a total shit show. If you really care to learn about this watch link related. It does the best job of laying out why vaccines should be avoided without going off the deep end into conspiracy shit. It's just garden variety greed and incompetence.

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This is the ultimate issue. The coronavirus exploits every single thing wrong with US society in its entirety.

>Oh coronavirus? well shit I should take precaution
>Schools get closed to prevent spread
>woah how am I supposed to care for my kids and go to work?
>fuck you thats why, come to work or you're fired
>oh work is closed now because the state forced them closed
>But now I'm out of a job, I have kids to feed and rent to pay for what the fuck then
>oh now they're freezing my rent and shit, thank fuck I guess.

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>GUIS WHAT GUN SHUD I BUY OFUK O SHIT I MESSED UP AN IM SCARRED

I can start another one, if you want.

>oh yea I can't get tested lmao

You’re right, execution it is

>schools are closing where do I send them?
Uh, fucking home? They're closing for a reason, not for giggles.
>how do I afford healthcare?
Insurance, like a normal person.
>I cant afford to take off work!
It is nobody's fault but your own that you dont have a nest egg, ESPECIALLY in this day and age.
>I dont have guaranteed housing if I'm not in school!
Why? You're how old and have been a student for how long, and you're still living on campus? Again, nobody's fault but your own. Normal people tend to have a home in the city they live in.

whats fucking hilarious is you have cuckservatives passing bernie tier social welfare bills and democrats talking about making an (((affordable))) vaccine or slowing down bills with (((means tested))) horse shit

You're going to get a lot of shit for posting that here, and probably a couple of well reasoned responses why small business in particular can't often do those things.

I will say though, that this shit has made people show their true colors. Jeff Bezos, whose delta, not gross but delta, of personal income grew more every week than I make in a year, asking his lowest paid employees to donate their sick leave to Covid19 patients rather than covering their cost has me wondering if the guy is a sociopath.

>Insurance
>that you get from your job
>oh wait

>how do I afford healthcare?
>Insurance, like a normal person.
Which you need work to provide or at least income to purchase. But whatever dude, go scream at some service workers how this was their own fault for even having a service job to begin with.

>Uh, fucking home? They're closing for a reason, not for giggles.
The point was where do I send them while I have to go to work. You can't leave kids home younger than a certain age. Thats a massive issue
>Insurance, like a normal person.
You lose your insurance if your employer lays you off or if you refuse to come in due to your employer's negligence.
>It is nobody's fault but your own that you dont have a nest egg, ESPECIALLY in this day and age.
Why am I expected to have a nest egg of 3 months plus emergency funds but a company that makes millions of dollars a year can't keep their doors open for the time being? A month of interuption causes them to close down for good lmao maybe the business should figure out its finances better, stop spending so much on frivolous shit like CEO pay and bonuses for executives and start saving money for times like this.

>has me wondering

>service workers
>healthcare
>implying people hire fulltimers since 09

Whats worse is the lack of protections for US workers as they have virtually no rights at all.
>Health insurance tied to employment
>If employment starts fucking with your pay or hours you can lose your health insurance
>get let go, but collect unemployment? Its only 40% pay though
>now I have no insurance and I'm sick, I can't afford to go to the doctor but this could be life threatening.

>Do you work for Project Alamo?
Oh fuck off you pedantic faggot. This does not change the fact people were warned of an infectious disease spreading in February by the State Department yet people STILL traveled abroad to places where the infection rates are skyrocketing. It also does not change the fact the economy was going to get fucked regardless of whatever response came from the White House because the majority of our shit is made in China and they are still on lockdown. We are a globalized economy, one part of that supply chain goes down we are all fucked. Then you have the fact we banned travel from China in February and people were pissing and moaning about how that is racist. Blaming Trump for this issue as the one with sole responsibility is about as productive as pissing in the wind. As a nation we were unprepared for this and the majority of the populace can't be bothered to deal with the slightest inconvenience in our daily lives.

>Why am I expected to have a nest egg of 3 months plus emergency funds but a company that makes millions of dollars a year can't keep their doors open for the time being?
Because you are responsible for yourself you dunce. No amount of progressive wand waving and utopian entitlement programs will change that.

>he thinks temporary financial relief from the government during an unforseen national crisis which has forced many Americans out of work unexpectedly is the same as permanently increasing tax initiatives based off your total gross income which is to be thrown back in public funding and the like
>he ACTUALLY thinks socialism literally takes the form of a check of someone else's money
You're dumber than those you're mocking

>Because you are responsible for yourself you dunce. No amount of progressive wand waving and utopian entitlement programs will change that.
Oh so if I need help thats socialism and we can't have that but a business that doesn't have enough saved for issues like this gets a bailout and thats not socialism?

Oh how honored I am to be "responsible". Its all "my fault" despite everyone else shitting on me in ways I couldn't perceive.

guys most likely in new zealand or argentina with everyother kike

Ignore him. He probably all social safety nets welfare, except for unemployment because he was on it one time and he already PAID money into that with taxes so that one doesn't count.

>non-existent fiat currency
>someone (((else's))) money
surrre

Hire a babysitter.
You can bitch about how people are losing their jobs OR you can help someone out while you still somehow retain yours. But you certainly can't sit here bitching while refusing to create a job for someone.
>why am I expected to have a nest egg but a corporation cant keep their doors open?
Why do you think this is an apt comparison? They're closing them to prevent the spread of the virus, which you are so actively crying about. Again, you can have it one way or the other.

>spending 1.5 trillion dollars on bailing out banks so the economy can grow 4% for 30 minutes then tank right afterwards isn't socialism
>spending half the amount giving people money to pay for bills as their income is cut off? THATS SOCIALISM WE CANT HAVE THAT.

Letter cites Bellingham, WA. Fucking WA is already batshit crazy, and fucking infested with libtards who won't see anything wrong with this.

>Hire a babysitter.
With what fucking money? My job gets cut off and I can't find a baby sitter because EVERYONE in my community suddenly needs a baby sitter for 5 days a week? A baby sitter is gonna cost at least 10 dollars an hour and if I make 15 dollars an hour, 10 of those dollars per hour goes towards the sitter that means I only take home 5 dollars per hour.

>Why do you think this is an apt comparison? They're closing them to prevent the spread of the virus, which you are so actively crying about. Again, you can have it one way or the other.
Often times they weren't closing even if people were getting sick until they were forced closed by the state. Then again I can't keep my job because apparently a company doesn't have enough cash to coast for even 1 month but I'm expected to have all this shit figured out.

You being a faggot socialist baby doesn’t stop MegaCorp from being greed and corruption personified. Stop pretending it does

>You're a socialist if you want a hand out from the government
>but mr corporation? Thats not socialism thats just their greed and corruption, definitely not socialism when they get a bailout.

>my backhanded remarks will make up for my lack of coherent thought
If you don not have some form of savings for an emergency you are a fucking idiot. It is not difficult for you to same money, its called not being fucking stupid and living within your means. I don't like big buisness getting bailed out either, but I'm not in control of that. I am however in control of my own bank account. I don't like big buisness or you.

>Its all "my fault" despite everyone else shitting on me in ways I couldn't perceive.
Nobody said its your fault, they are calling you retarded for not having savings because you probably piss all of your money on useless shit then when life punches you in the mouth you complain its not fair.

>Nobody said its your
>It is nobody's fault but your own
fault,
oh clearly me not being prepared for a global pandemic on my minimum wage salary, working check to check ass couldn't possibly perceive is my fault.

Delusional, histarical and conduct unbecoming of the office.
It seems that they must be removed from office and placed under medical supervision such as a senor center.
Office holders have obligations to their oath of office and if they cannot or will not faithfully execute that office there is no choice but to remove them.
Medical office holders or senor ranked officials are legally held responsible and can be held to account if they offer no protest.

>Hire a babysitter.
> Subsidize working families and education with one stone, and do it with 1-2 specialized employees covering 20-30 students.
> Replace this system with a largely unspecialized workface operating at 1 employee to 1-2 students.
Yeah, that's scalable. Hopefully people realize why local municipalities' budgets are devoted to theor schools, and why despite numerous problems they system is much more efficient than tutors.

>I need somewhere to send my kids while I'm at work!
>2 posts later
>hire a babysitter? I cant do that I'm unemployed!

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Hell any money I have goes towards rent. Landlords demand 1st and last months rent plus a massive security deposite, theres 5000 dollars down the drain right there.

Yeah bud, the only difference between greed /corruption and socialism is a lack of agency. Glad we’re on the same page.

You realize that School was people's baby sitter right or did you forget that schools existed?

Parents work 8-5, kids go to school from like 8-3 or what ever, might see a baby sitter for like an hour or two, not 8-9 hours of baby sitting you stupid fuck.

When was the last constitutional convention?
If you want to change laws then you are free to hold another.

>Its not socialism if you admit to being greedy and corrupt.

>Burien, WA
user, can you elaborate? I'm not familiar

> t. former WAfag

Our government just dumped a trillion dollars at lightning speed into wallstreet with basically no return. How many test kits, beds, masks, respirators, and unemployment benefits could that have given us?

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Yeah I was definitely implying we industrialize and standardize babysitting on a national scale across 50 states
>implying that would be the absolute best way to do it
>implying shit like nurseries and daycare centers dont exist let alone wouldnt become more common
Strawman at its finest

>City of Bellingham
>Washington.i expected this faggotry from Seattle first.

>oh clearly me not being prepared for a global pandemic on my minimum wage salary
Nigger I worked for cash under the table shoveling shit and fixing tractors until I was 23 and still had a few thousand in the bank as a safety blanket in case I couldn't work for an extended period of time. Your excuse making is why you're in this mess.

>working check to check ass couldn't possibly perceive is my fault.
Well, is it? Or will you blame the system for you poor financial planning? Nobody is responsible for your actions except for you. Sorry if that makes you butthurt.

>Landlords demand 1st and last months rent plus a massive security deposite, theres 5000 dollars down the drain right there.
Where the fuck do you live and why the fuck would you sign that contract?

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1.5 trillion dollars could have wiped out student debt, paid for everyone to get medicare, put the homeless into housing, or given each american 4200 dollars. (1.5T/350m)

Thanks. I was expecting some tinfoil gray death shit where ineffective vaccines are made artificially scarce to keep the population dependent on those in power, but incompetence is much easier to swallow.

>this is the canned talking point I've been saving for this point in the discussion
>me smart
Fucking parrot.

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>1.5 trillion dollars could have wiped out student debt
Fuck that shit. Take care of your student debt yourself.

They had an ammo tax or something similar limited to the city that the NRA took to court.
Upon the news being release, multiple other cities issued their own since the NRA had to go through practically every court in WA just to get it thrown out, on grounds it never should've been enacted in the first place.

not that guy, but why would I want any of that shit.

>I did something that means everyone can
>ignore the fact that different microeconomies are different. I'm going to ignore the fact that I am single and have no dependents, my rent isn't higher or lower than in other places and other facets of the cost of living I'm going to ignore.

>Well, is it? Or will you blame the system for you poor financial planning? Nobody is responsible for your actions except for you. Sorry if that makes you butthurt.
You realize that minimum wage hasn't gone up in 12 years, minimum wage today is worth about 6.06 dollars

>social isolation
>Hire a babysitter.

>Why would I want kids to stop worrying about their student debt that is taking away from their retirement, economic spending or advancing their living situation
>Why would I want healthcare that doesn't fuck me in the ass for deductibles, OOP expenses and uncovered shit
>Why would I want to reduce the burden on society by preventing homelessness so property values increase in such a way that improves the general economy
>4200 dollars in my pocket? Why would I want that.

>You realize that minimum wage hasn't gone up in 12 years
We talking about WA? It's tgone up several times in tuhe last 6 years, 2020 being the last time, which bumped it to 13.50.

I mean seriously, just wiping out student debt would boost the economy so hard. Kids would be able to spend so much more fucking money its unreal. Kids wouldn't be suffering not being able to pay for retirement, saving for anything and scraping.

Then fucking say that instead of "Just hire a babysitter". It's not a strawman if that's all you give me to work with.

>daycare centers dont exist
Already operating at near capacity, and even if they aren't, they now will be because in my state they must segregate kids into groups of six children to one employee with zero swapping of employees to groups allowed. That also won't help with the material that's going to get skipped over, because few daycare providers on the med/low end are pedagogues.

Honestly, there's probably not any solution with upsides. My spouse is an AP teacher at the high school, and her kids are fucked. The AP board is scrambling to try and adjust the test, but lots of kids are about to get fucked out of avoiding expensive and redundent college classes, assuming those even kick back on come fall.

Which isn't even in line with inflation btw. If minimum wage kept up with cost of living or inflation it'd be north of 20 dollars an hour. You're basically making less and less every single year you don't get at LEAST a 3% raise. This means every year you make less money which means everything else gets harder and harder to afford.

This is why millenials and zoomers are even more cancerous than boomers.

>you did it that means I can't
>I'm going to make excuses and disguise them as clever arguments in green text
>that'll show him
Like a broken record.

>You realize that minimum wage hasn't gone up in 12 years, minimum wage today is worth about 6.06 dollars
Then why are you working for minimum wage? Its called minimum for a reason. Also where the fuck did you get $6.06 Its higher than that depending on the state

med/low end are pedagogues -> are NOT pedagogues

>but lots of kids are about to get fucked out of avoiding expensive and redundent college classes
DESU AP classes only help you avoid 1st year gen eds. If you take one AP biology course that just helps you miss Biology 101 in college, congrats you get to take biology 201

>where am I gonna send my kids while I'm at work?
>babysitter
>cant afford one I dont have a job
Then what's the fucking issue?

>Kids would be able to spend so much more fucking money its unreal.
They already spend that money while in debt you fucking moron.

The issue is that if you're at work because your work hasn't shut down but you have kids at home because school was your baby sitter, paying 10 dollars an hour with your meager wages isn't gonna pay for that baby sitter AND all your other expenses especially if you're only making a few dollars an hour at that point.

No they don't. This whole meme of iphones and avacado toast is literally just propaganda fed to boomers who can't understand why rent is 1200 dollars for a 250sqft apartment while minimum wage hasn't increased beyond what they made in 1970

>The issue is that if you're at work because your work hasn't shut down but you have kids
You sound like a single mother. Are you a single mother?

>then speak as black and white as possible so I can keep up!
How old are you anyways?

>If you're a single mother thats your fault
>ignore the fact that even with both parents working you still wouldn't be able to do this.

I got out of Bio and Chem, both semesters 101/102 from AP though. Maybe it's changed since then, but that's some bullshit if true.

He's probably referring to real purchasing power, which has steadily decreased over the last 40 years.
Still, just paying people more won't solve the problem. More currency in circulation will just drive prices up across the board if not controlled in some way. The only real benefit would be for people in considerable debt.

I mean it didn't really help in the long run, it'll help you graduate maybe a semester early at best. You'll still have loads of other gen eds.

I'm not saying you shouldn't do AP courses because if you wanna or you are good for you you're a bright student but still the actual tangible savings isn't THAT much.

>piss away 1.5 trillion dollars that could have went to production of med supplies
>irrelevant point

>Still, just paying people more won't solve the problem.
Well it sort of will, like you said purchasing power has decreased but if you had purchasing power that kept up with cost of living or inflation you wouldn't have nearly as much of a problem.

>If you're a single mother thats your fault
shouldn't be fucking niggers imo.

What's half a semester cost these days in tuition alone? Let's assume public state university?

>Why would I want kids to stop worrying about their student debt that is taking away from their retirement, economic spending or advancing their living situation
Life is all about choices, and they made decisions to put them deep in debt. Not the states responsibility to bail out the irresponsible.
>Why would I want healthcare that doesn't fuck me in the ass for deductibles, OOP expenses and uncovered shit
Free healthcare is always shittier than private, look at the bong NHS with people dying on waiting lists. No, I dont want that.
>Why would I want to reduce the burden on society by preventing homelessness so property values increase in such a way that improves the general economy
You dont prevent homelessness by giving away free housing, or shelters would have done that in the 20s.
>4200 dollars in my pocket? Why would I want that.
Why would I want that? I'm not on fucking welfare and its my own tax dollars that are being paid to me anyway.

>No they don't.
Yes, they do. I know several people in thousands of dollars in credit card debt because they spend their money like fucking idiots.

>his whole meme of iphones and avacado toast is literally just propaganda fed to boomers who can't understand why rent is 1200 dollars for a 250sqft apartment while minimum wage hasn't increased beyond what they made in 1970
The minimum wage has increased since 1970. I don't know where you get this moronic idea from other than whatever propaganda you've bee butt chugging.You also misspelled avocado btw. Being illiterate while trying to sound intelligent is difficult.

>If you're a single mother thats your fault
Kinda is. Nobody told you to get nutted in.

>ignore the fact that even with both parents working you still wouldn't be able to do this.
Then why doesn't one stay home? Why isn't there an older sibling? I mean if we are going down the road of extraneous assumptions lets assume the family has several children of various ages and both work decent jobs, one making more than the other.

A public state university with in state tuition and financial aide? Maybe a few thousand dollars max, like at my uni it was 3k.

Then teach your kids to be responsible and self sufficient so they can handle being alone for longer than 10 minutes. I know that isnt exactly the norm or the PC thing to do - making then do things for themselves - but maybe you could give it a whirl. It worked great for 2000 years after all.
Your kids are YOUR responsibility. Not the governments.

If I'm going to have to pay money to her either way, I'd rather subsidize her working expenses rather than have her sitting at home just sucking a government titty full time.

>he minimum wage has increased since 1970.
No it hasn't, if we compare what you made at minimum to what you make today it has actually gone down. Minimum age hasn't gone up at all relative to inflation. Thats the point.

>In all states, Medicaid provides health coverage for some low-income people, families and children, pregnant women, the elderly, and people with disabilities. In some states the program covers all low-income adults below a certain income level.
While I agree health insurance is filled with so many levels and twists of bullshit that it's essentially a bullshit labyrinth, it seems to me like most people who make your type of complaints are simply living outside your means.

nice op. it is a perfect parrelel for what is going on. 1920 and now 2020 except globalist. what benefits they think prohibition may have had on america i dunno. it just created tension and strengthened the underworld.

>implying rent hikes haven't been historically linked to an increase in average wages in an area.
Its just kicking the can down the road user. My landlord is cool, thank God, but my neighbors are going to get fucked.

Fuck man, what state and what year? I think I got screwed.

>Then why doesn't one stay home?
Because you can't afford rent if you do
> Why isn't there an older sibling?
Maybe the family could only afford one kid or they have two kids but neither is of age to reasonably stay home. ARe you really this unimaginative?

It has never in the history of creation been easier, safer and more empowered for a woman to get rid of a child she cant afford or just dont want. In 2020 America, you choose to be a single mother, so yes its your fault.

>Then teach your kids to be responsible and self sufficient
yea just teach your age 0-10 year old how to be fiscally and personally responsible.

wrong, the chinese are to blame.

They haven't. If wages have been stagnating and minimum wage real purchasing dollars has gone down that doesn't explain why rent is up 46% in 10 years.

The dumb ones will weed themselves out by burning down your home. No biggie.

>what benefits they think prohibition may have had on america i dunno
I see someone didn't grow up with alcoholic parents. Or has compared maps of where violent crime happens with maps of where the bars are. or has seen someone quite literally drink themselves to death. Or...

>Yea if your husband leaves you thats your fault
what the fuck ever taking advise from neckbeards on Yas Forums got people places.

prohibition didn't work like the war on drugs didn't work like gun regulations don't work.

UN Agenda 21

> In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a resident of the state of Texas, a U.S. national, citizen, permanent resident, or legal alien, in need of health care/insurance assistance, whose financial situation would be characterized as low income or very low income. You must also be either pregnant, a parent or relative caretaker of a dependent child(ren) under age 19, blind, have a disability or a family member in your household with a disability, or be 65 years of age or older.

Your average single service worker now out of a job is fucked in my state. I know Kroger is hiring, but I don't know what their healthcare packet looks like.

>No it hasn't
>if we compare
Yeah inflation is a bitch but what are you going to do about it? The only realistic way to solve that issue would be to restructure the currency in the country instead of raising the minimum wage.

>Because you can't afford rent if you do
Says who, you? If your income is low enough that a two people working can't afford it it is time to move.

>Maybe the family could only afford one kid or they have two kids but neither is of age to reasonably stay home.
Maybe you're trying to reel in your absurd argument by making the fictional family the one that will fit your canned talking point, like the fuckwit you are. Are you really this fucking dumb?

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>all single mothers are because of their husbands leaving
>not because some dude nutted in them and ran while she was single
Big think.

>The only realistic way to solve that issue would be to restructure the currency in the country instead of raising the minimum wage.
Or just tie minimum wage to inflation.

>being this pedantic
Yes, you absolutely can teach a child to be personally and fiscally responsible, you fucking imbecile. That's the whole purpose of giving your child chores and an allowance.
But you obviously missed that part in your parenting if it all went right over your head.

see

>Or just tie minimum wage to inflation.
That is putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound since the problem, as you have already fixed, is our money becoming worth less and less as time goes on. Minimum wage being tied to inflation would do nothing to solve this issue.

>I see someone didn't grow up with alcoholic parents.
Boy, that ban on any opium products without a perscription sure is working well here. Maybe when they effectively ban alcohol, it'll go just as well.

Government bans on a prohibited substance don't stop abuse, user. I am sorry to hear your family had alcoholics, but odds are that they had significant events early in life that caused it.

>Yeah inflation is a bitch but what are you going to do about it? The only realistic way to solve that issue would be to restructure the currency in the country instead of raising the minimum wage.
Then your entire point was moot, Minimum wage is worth LESS than it was in 1970. So americans haven't been making more they've been making less which is why its so hard to day to pay for anything.

>Says who, you? If your income is low enough that a two people working can't afford it it is time to move.
If you can afford to move. This isn't a choice for millions of americans because of how their cost of living is slapping up against the ceiling of what they can reasonably make.

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Or tie the currency to something real, not fiat.

>our money becoming worth less and less as time goes on
The alternative is deflation, which is far worse.

SUNY SBU's tuition was approximately 5-6k per semester from 2008~2015, if I remember correctly.

this comic from 1894 captures the issue of rent vs wages perfectly

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Unless that commodity grows as fast as the population, you will have deflation.

I stand corrected.
If it makes them feel any better, those of us still with insurance can't really utilize it right now beyond immediate emergencies. Appointments and procedures are being canceled en masse.

How old are you to still be making minimum wage? I never in my life made minimum wage. My first job in 1987 was $6.25/hr. That’s 1987 dollars being a clean up boy in a meat department and learning a trade. I was 16 for fucks sake. College didn’t workout for me, I’m highly intelligent but public schools didn’t teach me how to learn, my father was an alcoholic and my mother died in 79’. I didn’t want to cut meat forever after seeing how the older meat cutters were. Believe it or not in 89’ I applied for 80+ jobs didn’t get one interview. You young guys need to recognize this shit isn’t fucking new. So, like an adult I took a risk and joined the USAF. Learned a marketable job skill, got me out of no jobville. Got married at 22, bought house at 25, got out of USAF. Got a good job, now make six figures with a high school diploma. Wife pulls in six figs with a specialist degree. When we got married in 92’ she made minimum wage. Paid 20 years on her education. I live in the south, I’m upper middle class on a $200k household here. Live in a $140k house, no fancy cars, and save a lot. If you are in your 20’s making minimum wage it’s your fault as you never risked anything. You were comfortable and now you’re not. In the real world no one cares about your life issues. TV and Internet does not real life. It’s not fair and you will have to do shit you don’t want to do and that’s risk.

tie it to human shit. It can work. Just think about it.

>How old are you to still be making minimum wage?
millions of americans are still making minimum wage.

>Believe it or not in 89’ I applied for 80+ jobs didn’t get one interview. You young guys need to recognize this shit isn’t fucking new. So, like an adult I took a risk and joined the USAF.

YOU TELL HIM BROTHER I JOIN THE AIRFORCE IN 71 BEST DECISION OF MY LIFE

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This whole thread devolved into a shouting match between "I haven't been affected it by it yet, so it doesn't matter" and "I've recently been affected by it, so now it's everybody's problem"

You both need to grow the fuck up. This is a crisis on an international level and the only people you're thinking of are yourselves.

>Supreme court cases say cities can't regulate firearms, but leaves it to the state. If the state gives cities permission it is now within the scope of constitutionality.

>has me wondering if the guy is a sociopath.
If you didn't already know prior to this then you're retarded.

>banning booze
I knew libs were gay, but I didn’t expect them to be that gay.

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Half of California is giving zero fucks about the fake lockdown. No eas, no real lockdown.

This is LA at rush hour, people give a fuck.

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That’s because LA is under full lockdown.

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>I’m highly intelligent but public schools didn’t teach me how to learn
true boomer
i bet you unironically wear New Balance tennis shoes
>I live in the south
That explains it

>So, like an adult I took a risk and joined the USAF
So socialism where everything is handed to you for doing some meaningless job?

Kek

>another viral outbreak, like we have every few years since time began
>starts out looking really bad due to China playing cover up and basically handling it in the worst possible way from day 1
>continues to look bad as it fucks Italy due to combination of geriatric population, shitty medicine, and close ties to China
>Sweeps through Europe because absolutely zero precautions taken and socialized medicine
>Media hypes it because it's the fucking media
>suddenly no longer seeing Biden embarrass himself daily
>suddenly no longer hear about the primaries at all
>Panic buying begins, made worse by the media broadcasting it and telling people they wont be able to get __ because of panic buying
>Dominoe effect as a few companies shut down, and every company feels it needs to follow suit or look like they don't care
>local govts. shutting things down and panicking because they want to look like they are "doing something"
>Trump declares national emergency and has daily press conferences briefing the public, because at this point he has to say SOMETHING
>everyone uses this to validate their hysteria, "It's not mass panic if even the WH says it's a big deal!"

So millions are either dumb or unmotivated to take chances. Oh noes there’s no jobs where I live, then move! Apply far away and get an interview. Join a church. Churches are not about religion they are about networking. Find the richest Church all the old money goes to and network. Going online with the other losers bitching about your lives is not going to get you anywhere. Employers don’t care. I make no qualms wages suck today. Thanks gov for NAFTA, H1Bs, Chinese world trade status, feminism, diversity hires, and yet I don’t see any marches. I do see marches for LGB bull shit. I see white men are evil everywhere. I don’t see anyone putting the fire to gov to get our god damn jobs back. Trump is trying, but he can’t do it alone. All because young kids want mid life pay at age 21 doing jobs a monkey can do. We refuse to fix healthcare and education. The young want done other sucker to foot the bill. As someone who isn’t dumb, I want the costs fixed to make it affordable again. Healthcare for all would be a 30% payroll tax. Oh yeah I’d enjoy paying $60k instead of $10k. Naw dawg that won’t impact me, nope. Not to mention doctor pay would drop to shit. In the UK a doctor makes around $90k. Good luck with your doctor shortage with Medicare payouts. Good jobs are at a premium today which means you’ll need to get yourself ready and prepare 300X better than the other applicants. No neck beard, tattoos, gauges, have short hair, learn how to be humble and speak, be willing to do a shit job and smile. But ya’ll soft as fuck. God damn know it alls. Expect a yellow brick road to wealth at Burger King. Here’s a secret for you! Most adults don’t start making shit until age 38-40. Your generation just has the Internet to bitch about it.

>regardless of dwindling case numbers as the weather starts warming up, the news media continues to beat the drums because what is the alternative for them
>regardless of dwindling case numbers local govts. still hype it because they didn't get everything in their agenda passed yet
>regardless of dwindling case numbers corporations still hype it because nobody wants to be the first to drop it
>regardless of actual facts social media and Yas Forums continue to meme and play "apocolypse-time" larps because fantasy is fun
>because of the above 4 normies continue to believe the icy shadow of death is upon us
>this BS drags on until election, because no good crisis goes to waste
>precedent is set, people can't show up in mass to vote right?
>A. voting continues as normal (Trump is incompotent, doesn't care about people getting sick)
>B. voting is changed to mail-in only (Trump is rigging the election by seizing control of polling)
>c. Voting is suspended (Trump has become a dictator, seizing power)
>whatever the outcome, when Trump wins election results are considered invalid

>>regardless of dwindling case numbers as the weather starts warming up, the news media continues to beat the drums because what is the alternative for them
Places in AUS are in lockdown.

Boomer? I’m an Xer fool. I’m a dose of reality. You think your shit life is exclusive to you? I turn 50 this year. I look 37. I’m fucking jacked as well. No one believes I’m 49. I live in a $140k house, iPhone 6, drive a cheap ass used car, and save money. Your generation is about bragging about what you can buy. My generation is about saving that fucking bank. Oh look at my new truck I just bought! Gotta get it on Facebook. Oh guyz do you like my truck? Hope I get likes! Better post my vacation pics! Better do a selfie every day to get validation. All because you don’t talk to each other. You don’t notice it, I do and people my age. Your conversations consist of one upping each other. Say whatcha have for lunch? I had tacos. I hate tacos, I like burgers! So god damn self fucking centered and you don’t see it. You just cannot be happy for anyone else unless it’s on your terms. Same with economic development, your terms not reality.

>Oh noes there’s no jobs where I live, then move!
>It's so easy just move.
>No no nevermind that shit costs money, just do it
spoken like a true entitled boomer
>Thanks gov for NAFTA, H1Bs, Chinese world trade status, feminism, diversity hires, and yet I don’t see any marches
There it is
>Trump is trying
lol
>I don’t see anyone putting the fire to gov to get our god damn jobs back
Because the people that love Trump want to keep them gone so they can pay even less for workers in 3rd world countries

peak boomer

all this shit wrote, just to say you're a boomer
Hope your shitty cets in the AF and fat wife dependa were worth it. Remember to stay inside old man during the duration of the pandemic or else your kids will fight over who gets the time share in Daytona Beach
>Oh look at my new truck I just bought! Gotta get it on Facebook. Oh guyz do you like my truck? Hope I get likes! Better post my vacation pics! Better do a selfie every day to get validation. All because you don’t talk to each other. You don’t notice it, I do and people my age
I like the part where you accuse us of being on social media then turn around and say we don't talk to each other.

t. Atherton, CA resident iPhone 5SE user

>I blame successful people who are smarter, harder working, or just plain luckier than myself for me not being able to take care of myself

You know that 70IQ faggot who is fucking up your order at McDougals because doing a good job takes too long and as long as he is keeping costs down no one cares as long as corporate is happy? Well there's a 160IQ faggot who's fucking up your vaccine testing because real work takes too long and costs too much and doesn't make politicians happy.

Wonder what crenshaw lookslike

I didn't want to work hard so i did bitcoin. Hope you had fun slaving your best years away for a 140k max house.

The art of conversation is lost with your generation. I guess you couldn’t find a meme to post. You have no reason. Oh guyz look I’m mad I’ll result to name calling. Call me what you want, I gotz my money. Oh yes boomers went to high school in the late 80’s. You cannot even articulate a reply of more than a few words. There it is? What’s is the is? I made it after all that shit was passed. You just want to roll out of bed and make 40 year old money in your 20’s. It don’t work like that. You can point fingers all you want and post your feelz. Or you could better yourself. But that’s risk and work. You have tons of excuses yet no solutions to your problems. You sound exactly like women, blacks, gays all blaming a boogeyman for their issues. It starts at home and starts with you.

LOL, I forgot to mention I have three pensions. 49 and can stop working anytime I choose. Where is your god now?

>I cant read a reply chain, the post
Washington is not one of those. But it can be! Think of the Goyim!!

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I wish I didn’t agree with you bc ur kind of a boomer dickhead that I’d take great pleasure in bitch slapping

>economy did nothing but go further into dept and get much weaker over the past 12 years
>look, it's going to fail!
Yeah you dipshit, citizens have been saying that for years but up until the past few weeks politicians have been the ones reassuring everybody that it's all tip-top as usual.
The federal reserve act was never designed to work long term, was never intended or marketed as such, and as a result it's stupid to hold it to such a nonexistent standard.

>The art of conversation is lost with your generation, he says not realizing that he's fast outing himself as an old as hell boomer with no redeeming qualities worthy of a conversation.

>You just want to roll out of bed and make 40 year old money in your 20’s. It don’t work like that
It most certainly does if you work smart and not hard. But please, tell me about how you totally "took a risk" starting off in a government job during a time period when it was so desperate for people that the military was taking literal convicts as warm bodies, what a story of hard work and perseverance about ironing issued clothes in issued housing in a intelligence mandated job.
t. still living in Atherton, CA and not the boonies of the shit hole South
I think Sharon Height Country club is still open, I think i'll use my credit card
Also, try this on for size grandpa it's the cheapest I could find for you
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>ignore the constitution
>get shot
wtf bugged city management mechanics

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>I forgot to mention I have three pensions
>Hi, I have pensions because I needed to Work Hard™.

>Also I can quit when I want to, like any time. Nothing is stopping me from quitting, just one small decision to do it.
He says with ever cracking voice and watering eyes.

>Wife pulls in six figs with a specialist degree
Is she as insufferable as you, Mr. works a lot?
Do you remember the names of your kids?

>Do you remember the names of your kids?
lol. Fucking this.

Banning alcohol will clog the hospitals with Alcoholics who are going through DT.. it happens up here every time the stores are closed for a long 3 day weekend.. alcoholics don't plan well, and can't go a day without drinking a lot.

I mean, fucking good riddance, but any rule that does this will crowd the hospitals for a while.. and old harmless rummie will turn into a B&E type..

The jews did this.