this shit really doesnt make sense from a marxist world view..
How do Communists Actually Explain this??
Austin Gomez
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Levi Rogers
What is the relationship between AshkeNAZIs and NAZIs?
Logan Reed
Jew bankers have always funded communist revolts. Communism and capitalism are both a means of centralizing all labor and production under jewish control, which is why they were such ready allies in WWII
Logan Cox
Just because you call yourself a commie and christian doesn't mean you are one.
Is this your first propaganda?
Noah Hill
It's almost like communism was invented and pushed by kikes since the very start...
Ryder White
Jonathan Lewis
ashkenazi kikes are literally germans following a different faith
>ashkenaz literally translates to 'germany'
>ashkenazi literally translates to 'german jew'
>yiddish, the language of the ashkenazi, is a dialect of german, doesn't sound like hebrew at all
>most ashkenazi last names end in a german fashion: -mann, -berg, -stain etc
check this, sepharadi jews are irrelevant, mizrahi jews are basically non-existant, it's always ashkenazis who cause shit
after the Great Mooning Incident in which 10 thousand kikes died and subsequent obliteration by based Rome (which germans destroyed by the way) kikes were pretty much docile. But then they settled up alongside germanics and combined their inherent ability to infiltrate with germanic inherent ability to destroy. You know the results.
Grayson Green
based and knowledgepilled
Lincoln Jackson
Cooper Perez
Before the fall of the global powers in the Iberian peninsula, it was the sephardics who cause the most trouble. Both are very shitty anyway.
t. lives in a country full of sephardic subhumans
Elijah Foster
Marx wasn't a kike, he hanged out with them but by the end the jews didn't give marx anymore money.
Communism was used 30 years after he died, jews corrupted his work.
Oliver Robinson
Anthony Baker
Marx was a german (by birth) lutheran (was baptized) citizen. Educated in a german fashion, wrote in german, published everything in germany.
Also, naziboos always conviniently ignore Engels :^)
Joshua Scott
Oh look it's a kike memeflag trying to play the word redefinition game, he was a literal fucking kike.
Ethan Richardson
thanks for confirming they stole marx's words.
Brandon Wilson
Marx was literally Jewish Dude >A Jew by blood is still a jew
Regardless of how you feel about his writings
Brody Bennett
He was a jew. Literally no one argues this.
But didn't he not like jews?
He wrote a book (didn't read) "On the Jewish Question"
And Marx didn't invent communism, he added a lot but there were many people before him so communism is not a Jewish idea necessarily.
Still it puts class struggle over racial unity and is subversive.
James King
>85-09% of foreigners helping chunese revolution were jews.
this is dumb jewish propaganda--why should we trust a schnoz named goldman?
Many tens of thousands of Koreans fought with the CCP--were they Jews?
this is a dumb post by a glownigger
bladerdash from a low-information, low-T nigger
USSR was only nation to tell jews that holocaust was nothing special, all Soviet citizens who died in WWII were equally victims of fascist aggression.
The capitalist powers on the other hand gave jews their special victimhood.
Gabriel Foster
>Literally no one argues this.
In this very thread >USSR
Hunter Morgan
>didn't he not like jews?
>>He wrote a book (didn't read) "On the Jewish Question"
He basically possits that the jews are socially subversive due to their culture Capitalism .
But that theory kinda got blow the fuck out once we saw how the Jews in the USSR operated once they gained power.
Stalin litterally purged ((((Trotsky))) for being an obvious ((((Wallstreet))) plant
Fucker was litterally farried back to the Americas by MI6
Coincidentally Stalin would go on to suffer a "stroke" while planning his second great purge after which the process of ((((De-Stalinization)))) occured
To be clear though
Stalin was still a literal zionist, helping to set up the state of israel and NEVER dealt with the Jewish Question DIRECTLY in his home nation.
>this is a dumb post by a glownigger
Its far from the only example Commie
And if you really disbelieve any of it feel free to provide evidence.
Gabriel Rogers
Yup.
Capitalist consumer states, communist producer states, one world currency.
Jack Ramirez
> >USSR
>posts a macro about Weimar Germany
go climb a tree you dumb fucking. monkey
>Fucker was litterally farried back to the Americas by MI6
you don't actually know a single thing about any of this.
Another example of the dangers low-information faggots.
I'm no trotskyist, but to believe he was a wallstreet plant is typical of the inane jackassery often found on Yas Forums
Joshua Price
>A Jew by blood is still a jew
how do you feel about Hitler then?
Lincoln Russell
>you don't actually know a single thing about any of this.
Not an Argument
Not refutation
Fucking nothing Go back to red.dit and dont come back to Yas Forums untill you've read enough in order to understand how a basic point is constructed you degenerate lefty Yas Forums faggot.
Jayden Johnson
Capitalistic empty brains (without any capital in the pockets or estate) are preaching about Jews to anyone, lmao.
Dylan Thompson
Go suck Shapiro's cock you r/donald fag.
Nathan Morgan
Are you saying that it is the Germans, and not the Jews, who are the true masters of this earth?
Alexander Johnson
Oh Gee i dont know user
More important question is how the fuck do I feel about post war sources produced by allied countries the same that will tell you Hitler was a transexual drug addicted blood cultist who engaged in canabalism and homosexuality regularly
the ONLY reason i accept that Trotsky was a fucking plant is because you can find evidence of it from sources both WITHIN and WITHOUT the USSR.
Nathaniel Howard
show me the links between SIS and Trotsky you. poor confused faggot
Brandon Wilson
where are these sources schlomo?
Jaxon Murphy
well i dont consider his one off dumb idea
its just a ridiculous idea. marx was a jew.
James Adams
HAhahahahahahhahahahhhahahahahhahaha
Cry me a river faggot
This is exactly why no one takes the left fucking seriously anymore.
You are litteraly all bitches of the International Capitalist (((Elite))) you claim to oppose.
one sec.
Parker Brooks
I don't think Stalin was anti semitic as much as I would like for that to be the case
I think he was cleaning up his competition and they just so happened to be Jewish.
While he did some based things, his dedication was to communism not to the Russian people and the end result is clear.
Camden Richardson
he literally was from New York and was brought over by the British
Every communist I have ever talked to recognize this and say it was necessary.
Jose Sanchez
nah, he was waking up to an extent, started seeing communism for what it really was, a jewish ploy to kill non jews
that's why his Jewish doctor killed him
Dominic Gray
>Commies
>thinking
Good joke. They just obey their (((masters))).
Sebastian Sanders
Just off the top of search
>theguardian.com
"Leon Trotsky, the creator of the Red Army, was detained on the orders of MI5 in a move which could have prevented him from playing any part in the Russian revolution and its aftermath, reveal hitherto secret documents released today."
"The papers show that had it not been for the intervention of an officer of the Secret Intelligence Service, MI6, - who believed the evidence against him was provided by an agent provocateur - the leading revolutionary might have had no place in history."
>>> intervention of an officer of the Secret Intelligence Service, MI6,
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>upi.com
"MOSCOW, March 5, 1938 (UP) - Christian Rakovsky, for years Russia's ace diplomat, asserted today at the mass trial of 21 Bolshevik leaders for treason that Great Britain accepted him as Russian ambassador only after learning that he was associated with Leon Trotsky."
"Asserting that Trotsky was a British agent, Rakovsky said that he himself, after being shown a forged letter which constituted a threat to him, was taken to a dinner at a London restaurant to meet the chief of the Russian section of the British intelligence service in 1924, a year after his appointment as ambassador."
""I went to Moscow," he said, "and talked to Trotsky. Trotsky said that the forged letter was only an excuse. He agreed that we were to work with the British Intelligence.""
>>>"He agreed that we were to work with the British Intelligence.""
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EAT SHIT YOU DEGENERATE FUCKING FAGGOT
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
SOURCES INSIDE!
AND OUTSIDE!
THE USSR!
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FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Aiden Clark
soul of the imbecile left right here
Evan Sanchez
whatever shlomi marx was a jew
Jayden Foster
anyone trying to downplay the jewish role in communism is a jew
John Hughes
nice digits but did you even read the source you provided?
>Claude Dansey, an MI6 officer, had also just landed at Halifax. "I told Captain Malkins, the Naval Control Officer, that I believed the new Russian government would at once ask for Trotsky's release, and that we should be unable to hold him, and that, unless they were very certain of the source of information against him it would be much better to let him go before he got angry," he noted.
>Within four weeks of his arrest, to MI5's chagrin, Trotsky and his fellow revolutionaries boarded another ship heading for Russia.
>Documents released today show MI5 continued its campaign right up the Bolsheviks' October Revolution of 1917. "Until such men as Trotsky are finally convicted, anti-war agitation will be carried on in the factories of Petrograd, Moscow...and Leninite doctrines will continue to be promulgated among the simple-minded peasantry," it warned.
So Trotsky was released because evidence against him was weak, crafted by a provocateur, and the UK gov did not want to anger the soon-to-be Soviet gov by imprisoning one of their valued comrades on false pretenses.
does not equate to MI6 agent or servant of Wall st.
As for your second source, Christian Rakovsky was rehabilitated by. the USSR in 1988 and cleard of the charges against him in the Trial of the 21.
It is widely known that all testimony given by the accused in the Moscow Trials was invented.
typical low-information Yas Forumstard
Julian Ramirez
Easton Long
Catholic actually
grasp harder onto your slipping narrative
John Brown
>> >USSR
>>posts a macro about Weimar Germany
wow I didn't know Lenin and Stalin were actually from Weimar Germany....
Sebastian Rodriguez
>So Trotsky was released because evidence against him was weak, crafted by a provocateur, and the UK gov did not want to anger the soon-to-be Soviet gov by imprisoning one of their valued comrades on false pretenses.
Yes user that is the "official story"
Just like the "100 million killed by stalin every year!"
If you seriously believe Allied propaganda reasons for WHY they do shit i really cannot fucking help you.
The fact of the matter is the English had him and MI6 DIRECTLY INTERVENED to let him go.
>Christian Rakovsky was just lying out of his ass about Trotsky being an MI6 agent
AWFULLY FUCKING CONVENT considering the aforementioned incident
By the by.
Are we seriously going to pretend as if the USSR government in 1988 WASNT a complete fucking puppet of the West?
The Berlin wall came down without a god damn shot fired.
And even the fucking Tankies in the Union understood the Gorbachev was complete fucking bought and paid for bitch to the west.
What the fuck makes you think HIS GOVERNMENT clearing someone equals them being less guilty then when litterally the LEAST controlled leader of the USSR (stalin) culled them for the herd?
Liam Powell
You can be a religious catholic and an ethnic Jew.
Mason Ward
It actually makes sense. Marxism is just giving more power to the same tribe of bankers. It's ok goyim, they know what's best for you!
James James
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Brody Phillips
Cooper White
are you really trying to say that wall street and big (((european))) banks didn't have any influence on the revolution?
Mainstream historians recognize that western banks funded the USSR. They use the excuse that it was to destabilize Russia, but reading between the lines YMMV
When suddenly a Jew from New York goes to the revolution this doesn't sound the least bit sus to you?
Benjamin Campbell
yeah user the official story is also that they actually had him arrested.
should we disbelieve that too?
>the USSR government in 1988 WASNT a complete fucking puppet of the West?
No it wasn't.
That was Yeltsin.
Gorbachev was a communist, just immensely naive.
>The Berlin wall came down without a god damn shot fired.
it also went up without a god damn shot fired.
typical conspiratorial Yas Forumstard who shovels all specks of low-information into his grand narrative
your point?
Robert Collins
Don’t forget Olof Aschberg, (((Swedish))) media magnate. Helped fund the Bolshevik revolution and was granted trade access to the Soviet Union as a result. Ended up getting very rich from the treasures he had stripped from the Russian Orthodox Church and ended up with one of the world’s largest collections of Russian Icon paintings.
But let’s talk some more about how the Nazis looted art, lol.
Jackson Ward
>How do Communists Actually Explain this??
Like this, ahem....
YOU FUCKING RACIST RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE ABOUT THE JEWS?!? ITS DAAA JUICE!!!! DA JOOOOOOOOOOZZZZ MY MAN. HOW ABOUT YOU STOP FOCUSING ON RACE ALL THE GOD DAMN TIME YOU DUMB PIECE OF SHIT.
FUCK YOU CLETUS
Lincoln Green
which mainstream historians?
and which western banks?
>When suddenly a Jew from New York goes to the revolution this doesn't sound the least bit sus to you?
No, but I'm not a low-information conspiratorially-minded antisemite.
Trotsky was not a Jew from New York.
He was Russian--temporarily hiding out in NYC.
Joshua Jones
>should we disbelieve that too?
Fucking sure.
I would perfer that to this blue pilled Capitalist propaganda beleiving garbage that Marxists love to fucking larp on wheneve it is in their best interest.
Only reason i doubt that in this instance being i have no fucking idea what could possibly be the benefit of LYING about taking trotsky and then releasing him
>No it wasn't.
>That was Yeltsin.
>Gorbachev was a communist, just immensely naive.
Oh you fucking summer child
Why is that whenever i speak to a Marxist they come off as being idealistic teenagers whos first big political disapointment was bernie sanders loosing in 2016?
>it also went up without a god damn shot fired.
NO IT FUCKING DIDNT!
That shit was conqured by the USSR from German!
thats how borders USUALLY fucking shift that dramatically
not with some pathetic cucked "wall tearing down ceremony"
>typical conspiratorial Yas Forumstard who shovels all specks of low-information into his grand narrative
>>>low information
This from the faggot who didnt even know Trotsky was a god damn plant.
Based and pic above.kek Good larp if larp
If not stay salty faggot.
Austin Perez
You can call us names all you like. To ignore an overwhelming outlier of people make up such a large proportion of a mass murdering regime is doing exactly what you are claiming we are doing. That is low information.
Antony Sutton is one name I can give. Already given you much of the same information he provides, but feel free to do your own research.
Much of historical research is taking evidence and piecing a story together. When you see banks in America and Germany funding lenin, it is not hard to see the same done for the other heads of the revolution like Trotsky.
Jayden Nelson
>Why is that whenever i speak to a Marxist they come off as being idealistic teenagers whos first big political disapointment was bernie sanders loosing in 2016?
>thinking i give a fuck about electoral politics
>NO IT FUCKING DIDNT!
>That shit was conqured by the USSR from German!
Sure, then the FRG was conquered from Germany by the US, UK and France.
>This from the faggot who didnt even know Trotsky was a god damn plant.
If trotsky was an MI6 plant, why didn't they allow him entry into the UK after he was exiled from the USSR? He tried to gain entry into UK.
Could've used him to destabilize the USSR--so why not? If he actually was a plant of theirs?
You're clever user, but you're also a fucking dumbass.
read more books, not Yas Forums
Blake Gutierrez
>mainstream historians
names one individual.
that one is anthony sutton.
try again simpleton
Kayden Ortiz
>Much of historical research is taking evidence and piecing a story together.
>When you see banks in America and Germany funding lenin, it is not hard to see the same done for the other heads of the revolution like Trotsky.
directly contradicting yourself, you are piecing together a story without any evidence
Juan Jenkins
Show me the image of Xi in Israel bowing to the Western Wall. Only the most based leaders of the world don't have their picture of them bowing to the wall like little bitches.
Henry Butler
Won't you look at Yale's logo... Between this and S&B I'm suspecting a lot of esoterism/kabbalism.
Connor Perez
>Jennings C. Wise, in Woodrow Wilson: Disciple of Revolution, makes the pertinent comment, "Historians must never forget that Woodrow Wilson, despite the efforts of the British police, made it possible for Leon Trotsky to
enter Russia with an American passport."
>Guaranty Trust Company, the largest trust company in the United States and controlled by the J.P. Morgan firm. Guaranty Trust used Olof Aschberg, the Bolshevik banker, as its intermediary in Russia before and after the revolution. Guaranty was a backer of Ludwig Martens and his Soviet Bureau, the first Soviet representatives in the United States.
>Martens is very much in the limelight. There appears to be no doubt about his connection with the Guarantee [sic] Trust Company, Though it is surprising that so large and influential an enterprise should have dealings with a Bolshevik concern. Scotland Yard Intelligence Report, London, 1919
No it's antony
en.wikipedia.org
Just because I'm not delivering all this info like an encyclopedia doesn't mean it doesn't exist or that the ideas are invalid. You're just knit picking and not attacking the actual arguments
Anthony Torres
>If trotsky was an MI6 plant, why didn't they allow him entry into the UK
>Associating with your plant in a foreign government
user, I highly recommend an IQ test
Easton Torres
>Just because I'm not delivering all this info like an encyclopedia doesn't mean it doesn't exist or that the ideas are invalid. You're just knit picking and not attacking the actual arguments
>knit picking
It's nit-picking user.
You should at least know how to spell it since you love to engage in it.
>
No it's antony.
The ideas are invalid because they are retarded.
Every source you quote is a conspiratard who raves about
>muh freemasons
or
>muh federal reserves
or
>muh zog
when in exile he was no longer in government, and it easily could have been justified on the ground of human rights.
IQ test yourself ya fucking bong
Wyatt Robinson
>Sure, then the FRG was conquered from Germany by the US, UK and France.
YES YOU FUCK!
kek
This is basic shit.
>If trotsky was an MI6 plant, why didn't they allow him entry into the UK after he was exiled from the USSR?
Probably figured Stalin would have an easier time getting to him there?
They shipped him to fucking Mexico for a reason dude.
>He tried to gain entry into UK.
Maybe he fucked up his contract dude
A million and one reasons could be why
or it could have just been a way to contact the brits and le thtem know he needed the fuck out of europe.
>Could've used him to destabilize the USSR--so why not? If he actually was a plant of theirs?
You're assumtion being that the UK WANTED to destroy the USSR.
When my contention would be that they just wanted to controll it.
(or rather the Rothschilds did)
Ayden Campbell
You have this strange conception of what a conspiracy is. Not everything takes place in a secret room with hoods on. Certain people have vested interests whether ethnic, economic, whatever.
Jacob Schiff believed that the Tsar oppressed Jews and wanted it toppled. He later regretted the rise of bolshevism. I doubt this was true, but that's the official record and doesn't matter to my point.
A jew (Schiff) among other jews funded one of the most terrible regimes that ever existed.
Ackerman, Kenneth (2016). Trotsky in New York, 1917: A Radical on the Eve of Revolution. Counterpoint. pp. 320–321
This regime was heavily Jewish.
All communist regimes have been heavily Jewish.
We point this out and you call us retards. You don't even recognize this fact. You have every right to say it doesn't matter, and we will disagree.
To my detriment, I try to have a fair discussion with communists on this board, but if you're just gonna name call there's no point talking to you.