why is the UK the only country not implementing social distancing policies (banning large crowd events, arresting infected that don't self-isolate)?
it's literally a death sentence for lots of elderly white brexit voting conservatives, why aren't they trying to stop it?
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There are numerous factors which play into it. Part of it is that government policy is slow to react to developments.
Part of it is that our initial policy reaction was based on China's propaganda numbers and so it wasn't viewed as a threat.
Part of it was over-confidence in our health system and social structures - a sort of snobbery wherein we thought it couldn't happen on the same scale to us.
Another factor is the fact that the UK government has historically been quite cowardly and is scared to implement policies that could receive backlash.
Part of it is because business interests lobby the government and their financial interests get prioritised over public health.
Part of it is inexperience with dealing with a serious major outbreak/disaster. The UK has been relatively safe and stable for quite a while, people over here are too set in normalcy and are prepared to continue on whilst everyone dies around them.
There are of course cultural factors as well. Since the outbreak I've come across the "stiff upper lip and carry on because we're British, we only complain and not take action" mentality. People actually unironically take that view, some to the extent that they believe we're should die before doing anything because its not 'British'.
I don't think if you let people think it over themselves they would come to that conclusion, however if you ever question someone who leans towards that sort of metnality they have a habit of going into full defence mode; as is human nature to a certain extent, and will sometimes actually end up saying stuff on the lines of "its better we die than compromise our principles"..
How about we fix the problem ourselves? :smirk:
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We washed ourselves in niggers blood and all the mongrels too,
We're taking down the Zog machine jew by jew by jew,
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The plan is to develop herd immunity so we don't have to worry about it slipping through the cracks again somewhere
they gave their reasons why in the conference today: youtube.com
The plan is depopulation
You are an idiot, you cant gain herd immunity to a coronavirus, it is literally too genetically unstable, gain yourself immunity to the initial strain, it mutates as it passes through hosts, you get reinfected because you are not immune to the mutated strain.
Yes, good question.
It looks like this and other strange aspects of this 'pandemic' made lots of people think.
There are 2 strains (S-type and L-type) , the more infectious one (L-type) is the only one we've got here in the UK, and no, it's not particularly unstable.
Why make people panic ?
Imagine telling 66 million people to avoid all physical contact with other people, enforce mandatory hand washing, enforce strict quarantines “only essential travel” etc work, shops, after telling them 6% of our population could die, a further 20% will need intensive care.
People would panic and not leave their house, won’t work, the whole economy will collapse everyone will suffer worse, food supplies run out etc etc
The UK is actually doing OK. Don't know why. Are you guys testing at all?
Anyway you guys seem to have about 5k IC beds which is enough to sustain an infected count of about 1600-4800. As long as the virus stays out you're good.
>Another factor is the fact that the UK government has historically been quite cowardly and is scared to implement policies that could receive backlash.
Other than the slow destruction of it's own people of course.
Lol and how are you going to do that? Are you going to arrest anyonee that hops on the metro?
The truth is that mass immigration is out of control and the only way they can solve it is by allowing the virus to ravage our population. The cities are vastly overpopulated, mostly with what used to be called ethnic minorities, so Boris and the Government are happy to let COVID-19 eliminate the problem Labour and the EU created. It's racism through inaction.
Yeah, there's checkpoints to get tested at here and there, as well as the hospitals/health centres.
Neoliberals are culling the boomers, for they have outlived their usefulness.
Stupid as fuck since now neo-Corbynism may happen sooner
"Why contain it?" might as well be the British tag line.
>"You are an idiot, you cant gain herd immunity to a coronavirus"
Every expert that I've witnessed, including the guy who was recently on JRE, whom has been studying these viruses for decades and has predicted everything that's happened so far down to a tee, says the contrary. Enlighten us, anonymous Yas Forums user, how do you know better than microbiologists/medical professionals?
Nah, Keir Starmer is going to win the Labour leadership election and Labour is just going to regress to Blairism.
Nah. It's the wogs who are the most panic stricken.
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Richmond ward at St George's hospital, tooting, is being tested. Lots of people there with fevers and coughs. My grandad was taken in with suspect pneumonia just under a month ago. I spent a week in the ward with him. He had all of the coronavirus symptoms. I stopped visiting him after the first week because I got sick too. I didnt want to give anything to him to make me worse. Now I'm starting to wonder. I did see the nurses put one patient in an isolated room and overheard them talking about whether he was "still contagious or not".
Also a friend had his whole department sent home indefinitely 2 days ago because one of his colleagues had been coming in sick for four days before being diagnosed with it.
Their plan is for everyone to get immunity by becoming infected.
Because
1- Large gatherings have no significant impact on the spread of the virus. If you're sitting down in a stadium for a couple hours with 60k other people it doesn't mean you will be in close contact with those 60k attendees. Chances are you can only spread to the 5 or so people within your immediate vicinity which is no different from the risk posed by going to work or school.
2- The old and sick are the most vulnerable and they don't usually attend large gatherings anyway.
3- Herd immunity is part of the official policy at this point. There is no way of stopping the spread, only slowing it down so that the peak is spread out throughout several months rather than a sharp increase in cases within a two week period that would overwhelm hospitals. In other words, let the young and healthy get infected. The vast majority will recover and become immune to the virus (no, this is not some HIV-type virus, you do gain immunity from it, stop believing in zerohedge bullshit)
4- Given the long incubation period of the virus, large scale quarantines are stupid. This will become more evident in the coming months when countries lower their guard and a new outspread starts again. When you extrapolate this throughout an entire year it is a self inflicted economic recession that will add financial grief and suspicion towards the government to an already panicking populace. The most reasonable approach is to accept it will spread, and let people endure a shitty 3 month or so period instead of a protracted pandemic that will strike different pockets at a time.
Boris Johnson or the Conservatives are not in charge of this. They are actually listening to the advice of health professionals, and being frank and open about it.
UKs testing more than any other European state. I dont know why everyone thinks they arent doing enough. Its clearly not working anywhere else. Poland is strange now. Schools cancelled, libraries shut, cinemas closed, everyone staying at home (or going to the store stupidly because they didnt prep early enough).
Might as well maintain the economy whilst watiing for it to pick up if its gonna happen anyway.
>and being frank and open about it.
They're not being frank about herd-immunity though, they're literally murdering hordes of boomers with this. It's clear that they're banking on the summer heat killing off the virus too, shit's gonna get very messy, if it doesn't.
He watched Mister Metokur's stream and now he's an expert
>, you cant gain herd immunity to a coronavirus,
I love how Yas Forums is now full of viral biologists
>They're not being frank about herd-immunity though, they're literally murdering hordes of boomers with this.
lol he literally said in the press conference we can expect to lose some of our loved ones sooner than expected.
It's over, you can't contain this virus. The incubation is up to 14 days, how the fuck are you going to trace every person a patient got in contact with for the last 14 days plus all the surfaces they touched, all the food they touched at the supermarket etc?
We have to accept a LOT of boomers will die regardless of government action. The best we can do is delay and stretch the peak so that hopefully the can will be kicked down the road in enough time for a vaccine to come up.
Because we're listening to the scientists?
If this shit is banned why are Disney theme parks still open?
My parents just went there. They go every fucking week even after this virus outbreak. My sister is very weak because she just had a baby and she lives with them. What can I do to convince these retards to stop being reckless consoomers?
>sensible post
You will be jumped on by people calling you a kike shill. Coronafags have ruined this board.
> Stage 2; Relax sick pay rules
This is why we have not closed schools, etc... The amount of people who would take the time as 'sick' during a Pandemic would bring the country to a standstill.
A lot of people only are working due to threat of losing jobs if they were to take a sick day. A lot of people come into work sick and infect others already.
> Stage 3; Ignore low-level crime
This is the problem area, given that we already have police officers and security infected.
>Stage 4; Deploy troops on the streets
This is a desperate attempt to maintain order and/or kill anyone who they want to before an attempted society rebuild.
>be me
>Thursday last week
>feel shitty
>go home from work
>coof, mild fever, knackered
>call 111
>don’t meet criteria as no direct contact with positive case
>4 days the same
>start to feel better
>last night the train hit
>can’t breath
>no sleep
>take non-drowsy antihistamine
>literally immediate improvement
>today knackered
>wheezy but much better
tl;dr no test unless you are literally on your knees (pic related)
>it's literally a death sentence for lots of elderly white brexit voting conservatives
Based.
If you truly believe you have it, go directly to A&E, say yes to each of the questions asked. You'll get a temperature check and likely be quarantined and/or they'll do a basic x-ray.
The problem is... IF you do not have it, YOU WILL by visiting the Coronavirus section of A&E.
>Chances are you can only spread to the 5 or so people within your immediate vicinity
Are you seriously ignoring the potential for those new 5 to then spread it to 5 more, and so on?
Anyone else honestly feel terrified at what our Gov is doing (or not doing...)
Like - we have no fucking idea the long term damage this does - like SARS.
China autopsies already showing severe lung, heart, and testicle damage in men
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> Anonymous (ID: AGEkn1e+) 03/12/20(Thu)15:41:49 No.247760104▶
>why is the UK the only country not implementing social distancing policies (banning large crowd eve
Bruh if you got relief from an antihistamine you probably don't have it, but have some other kind of respiratory infection or reaction.
What the fuck did I quote
>there's checkpoints to get tested at here and there, as well as the hospitals/health centres.
Lies.
GP surgeries have no testing, just paper signs on windows claiming that if you have Coronavirus you should go to hospital.
Hospitals have a basic check, lots of paper signs claiming '14 days' and a desk occupied by a lady wearing only a surgical mask.
This lady will ask you three questions;
> Have you got flu-like symptoms
> Have you had a fever
> Have you travelled to China/Wuhan in last 14 days
After a temperature check you are allowed into A&E.
They have a seperate 'Coronavirus Pod' where you can be isolated if you are taken from the outside world.
>if you are capable of laying with your eyes open and directed at a glowing screen then you’re well enough to not get treatment
?????
>the Coronavirus section of A&E
I work at a hospital, corona people are directed to a portakabin in the car park known as a "corona pod", they aren't allowed in A&E.
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No, I'm saying it's no different from going to work and spreading it to 5 coworkers.
Because old people can just stay home and not go out
You’re less likely to spread it to as many people in an office setting as a place where you are nearly shoulder to shoulder wading between hundreds of people
Are you kidding me?
I’m not going anywhere near a fucking hospital unless they need to carry me in
I went to the Selly Oak A&E yesterday with chest pain, had an ECG and X-Ray.
I swear to you, if you are told you might have it you are directed through a set of double doors to the right to be greeted by individuals wearing surgical masks and basic plastic aprons. I know because i saw it happen to two individuals.
The outside 'Corona Pod' is not for people who may have it, only confirmed cases that are so serious they are brought in by ambulance. Once again, this was witnessed.
Until you are confirmed you wait in a section of A&E seperated only by a set of double doors. It's absolute madness.
I really hope it’s some other infection since 3 other family members have picked it up and we live in different houses (same locale).
Because I'm going to a concert at the end of the month that I've been waiting years to go to, so they'll sort it out in April.
>the UK the only country not implementing social distancing policies
because the british are already the most socially distant people ever
they despise so much everybody else
they will not fight the virus, they will deride it, mock it, and let it die from scorn
If it's a concert maybe but I'm talking about sport events where you're basically at the same place for the duration of the event. Taking public transport is just as dangerous.
Well I haven't gotten myself checked, I'm just speaking from what I've seen here in Antrim
You realize that at a sporting event apart from the direct vicinity of 5 people, you might be touching a doorknob, going to a concessions stand, paying with cash, or a bunch of other things that mean you will indirectly come into contact with more people, right? Or, that if someone sneezes in a classroom, the droplets probably won't land on as many people as the clustered seating in a movie theatre or sports arena? More people = more vectors for disease.
Also, I still don't understand how this herd immunity thing will work considering almost 30% of patients need ICU care. This 'herd' strategy is going to make that 30% much larger and lead to a surge that virtually noone's emergency medical infrastructure is prepared for.
Plus, symptoms in older kids and teens are reportedly so mild that they can go unrecognized, yet the kids can still spread it. This is the demographic that older people will probably will spend the most time with.
On second thought, this is clearly a conspiracy by the UK government to kill off the boomers, thus cutting public healthcare expenses and shifting demographics to make the UK the post-apocalyptic mulatto dystopia they've always dreamt of it being
uk govt are a bunch of brain dead goons, made up of daddies boys from public school and diversity hires. they are clueless, in a month people will want to kill them all.
Have you never had a fever before?
Clearly they want mass death, chief scientific adviser says live on TV today we know the mortality rate is only 1% this is what we base our response on. Yet WHO has the rate at 3.76% - we're deaded.