Back in '16 things were different. Conservatism was the new punk rock in the truest sense of the term. The MSM and the leftists were screeching about it, the entire apparatus of political correctness was against us, but it didn't matter. Know why?
Because they were uncool. The guys in MAGA hats were cool. Trump was cool. Conservatism was cool.
All those people being against it just enhanced the cool factor, because ultimately nothing is more rock n roll than pissing off the squares. And the squares surely were triggered by even the mention of the name Trump.
Now, flash foreward to 2020. Things are different. As time has moved on conservatism has become less and less cool. What was once an edgy fashionable thing has become the very thing it wanted to get away from. It's now fully populated by generic Fox News geezers, neocons, megachurch evangelicals. TPUSA is a perfect example of what I mean.
it was never cool - aut-right e-celebs, proud goys, groypers, and dorky zoomers in maga hats dogwhistling Yas Forums memes to get racist incels' attention was the ultimate in cringe
Owen Allen
lol it was never cool. The idiots here have just belatedly realized it was all cringe in retrospect.
Jose Powell
Conservatism is the default state of all human beings with any sense of personal and social responsibility. Anything else is degeneracy.
Colton Wood
Say nigger or you're a shill
Evan Flores
Fucking this and /thread
Anthony Evans
The truth must always be handled by a gatekeeper. 2016 unintentionally allowed for the truth to be let out. Now that truth must be guarded.
Angel Sanchez
Your expectations of Trump after he became President were way too high, kiddo. Now you’re buttmad because Trump didn’t solve all of your problems and life is complicated.
Isaiah Anderson
>Conservatism is the default state of all human beings with any sense of personal and social responsibility. Conservatives worship Ronald Reagan. Talking about personal responsibility while screwing wages for the majority of the country. Infact conservatives are happy to write big fat checks to all sorts of programs, usually military industrial complex ones etc. So they don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to 'balancing the budget' either (again, see Reagan, darling of the right to this day)
I told my dad that Trump sucked Israel dick does that count
Isaiah Phillips
Trump wasn't meant to become Jeb! though.
Andrew Taylor
Conservatism is pointless when it's conserving a fundamentally flawed liberal democracy that is inherently contrary to conservatism in the first place. That's why it's not cool, they're fucking delusional to protect a system that destroys them.
It was a lot of fun at the time though.. The meme war. Joe Rogan, Brittany Venti, Jordan Peterson, Alex Jones, these men were giants of our time. Anyone who was there cannot deny this. It was fun. Nowadays people only speak about those days in hushed tones in run down bars on the outskirts of town.
Camden Edwards
So I get told by leftist retards that there is no actual left wing representative in government while having to listen to idiots like you assuming that if you are conservative you agreed with everything reagan did? Holy mother of strawman.
Dominic Turner
Ever since the 1960s conservatism has been uncool. The only exception to this was a brief period in the 80s and in the last election.
Lets focus on the last election. Mainstream republicans had NOTHING to do with conservatism being cool or the internet culture and memes of the Trump campaign. Charlie Kirk, Shapiro, TPUSA, all the boomers who watch Fox... all of them had nothing to do with it. It was all done by Trump and what was commonly called the alt-right (which includes this board).
Well, the left isn't dumb. They saw what happened during the election and took action to make sure it never happens again. In 2017 they and their friends in Silicon Valley started purging all the alt-right figures off of social media. The few that remain have to walk on egg shells to keep their accounts.
The mainstream Republicans did nothing to stop this censorship. Trump did nothing to stop this censorship. And now all thats left is retards like Kirk and Shapiro. The energy of Trump's 2020 campaign will be different than his 2016 campaign. It will be filled with boomer memes and stale retreads of 2016 memes. There won't be any new and edgy material.
Caleb Morris
>The meme war. Joe Rogan, Brittany Venti, Jordan Peterson, Alex Jones, these men were giants of our time. Dude all of this was cringe. Yes it was fun but in the same sense George W Bush-rally goers in 2004 had fun.
No wars fought on Israel’s behalf Appointed hundreds of federal judges and two kickass SCOTUS judges, not like that cuck Roberts Pulled out of NWO Paris climate accords and Iran deal and NAFTA China finally taken to task on tariffs Trump pulled off the (((mask))) of prominent media shops like CNN and NYT (((Neoconservatives))) leaving the GOP in droves to go plague the Democrats Minimal gun restrictions despite intense amounts of propaganda
Sure he didn’t build the wall, but he’s miles ahead of Jeb! and Melania is a much better First Lady than Jeb!’s ugly goblina would have been
Grayson Lewis
No, the majority of conservatives hold Reagan in very high regard. This is not a controversial thing to say, it's a fact.
A tiny fraction on Yas Forums thinking (correctly) that he was shit doesn't represent the majority viewpoint of conservatives.
This I think is actually a really key point to what I'm getting at. I think Trump and the whole 2016 movement as a whole was misinterpreted by people here and elsewhere. It became an 'all things to all men' kind of movement.
:^( It was meant to be different to that though. Trump in '16 was calling out neocons and so on. It was meant to be 'anti establishment'.
The rallies are actually a good example. If you look at Trump rallies in '16, and '17 and compare to today the audience looks different.
Hunter Murphy
>Conservatism is no longer cool. You are such a fucking dork
all american politics are cringe it’s just israel dicksucking >inb4 80 year old is fresh and new cringeeee
Michael Taylor
so much basedness
Logan Torres
>Trump in '16 was calling out neocons and so on. It was meant to be 'anti establishment'. And how did that work out? There is no wall and all of the policies are what Rubio or Cruz would've done. There is no white nationalism or white nationalist lite, as delusional people thought there would be at the time.
He probably would've kept dog-whistling to you if Richard Spencer didn't have the Nazi LARP rallies right after his reelection (Hail Trump, Charlottesville).
Blake Nelson
Hi faggot. You realize this isn’t reddit right?
Jaxson Rivera
I was SCREAMING at you stupid fuckers to not let jews brand you and name you. I TOLD you to not accept the jewish brand of "alt-right".
What did you do?
AWOOVEMENT XDDDDDDDD MIGA BROS DRUFMPTMPFT 2020 for 4 fucking years straight. It was only a matter of time until qboomers latched on and jews did they textbook embarassment and takedown of yet another group.
You could have stayed shapeless and nameless, but you wanted to play your stupid fucking identity games so here's your reward, retard.
MAGA was killed by MIGA and Grifters ousted/overtook every true conservative.
The spirit has been destroyed so grifters can sell the movement in neat little packages.
Joseph Edwards
>And how did that work out? There is no wall and all of the policies are what Rubio or Cruz would've done. I know. He's become a generic gop guy like all the rest of them. But I wasn't to know. I think George Dubya said it best.
Fool me once............. sh-shame on.. you ........You fooled me can't get fooled again!
>implying paradigm shifts occur in a 4 years time span That would make democracy relevant, you should stop giving attention to the noises of media hype. >In an age in which the media broadcast countless pieces of foolishness, the educated man is defined not by what he knows, but by what he doesn't know. Nicolas Gomez Davila
Every time I think "man, maybe Yas Forums isn't the total shithole that I remembered and there are actual interesting things on here", threads like this pop up and I remember why Yas Forums is retarded.
If you ever thought politics was "cool" rather than a contest between who is the least pathetic, then you are a faggot.
This is a shill thread. Actual conservatism is still punk rock. Not free market Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk type
Kevin Cooper
this.
Oliver Phillips
>TPUSA Since when do they matter?
Dominic Adams
>when did conservatism become cringe? Reagan?
Jose King
>Actual conservatism What is actual conservatism? Trump aligns more or less perfectly with Kirk and Shapiro these days.
Benjamin Martinez
Actual conservatism is all about free markets and Ben Shapiro. Fringe offshoots are not what 'conservatism' is.
See above and TPUSA is representative of general conservatism.
Henry Morgan
Actually, Yas Forums and specifically /oldpol/ (i.e /new/) were never truly conservative. Not only did we support Obama, we were also majority atheist, majority pro-weed and majority anti-conservative. The word "degeneracy" being used as it is right now didn't exist. "We must secure our white race by making more white babies" didn't exist. You get the point.
Then stormfront happened. The very first shills. They created a program that allowed them to coordinate each other and shit up many websites with it, in the exact same fashion that literal shills do, and they created a subform called swarmfront dedicated to this. Needless to say, Yas Forums was the main target because it was the only forum where the free speech made their shilling tolerable if it was masked under the form of legitimate discussion. The whole calling everyone a nigger to trigger them and for the lulz now became serious and images began appearing going through great lengths to convince you to hate these niggers. It was procedural. Then Hitler/jew threads got spammed on a hourly basis. Now being a nazi was no longer ironic but serious. Then communists, who were a large portion of Yas Forums believe it or not, were told to fuck off and any reasoning for that was invented, namely jews. When the environment was free of the ideological opponent, they went after the ancaps, centrists and libertarians, each with their own brand of forced meme, and Yas Forums ceased supporting Ron Paul. They then went after the atheists and began spamming fedora pictures everywhere to the point that mentioning atheism was impossible. Now that the board resembled 80% stormfront, they went for the cherry on the top and began spamming BBC threads to create the illusion that someone is trying to make Yas Forums racemix to destroy the white race, but most importantly, that it's the porn industry operated by jews, turning the board against porn (again through forced memes).
And this is how the "conservative" Yas Forums of 2020 came to be.
Hudson Evans
the establishment is never cool. The establishment owns both the democrat and republican parties. Conservatism did not become cool, nationalism did. Republicans are moving away from that, especially TPUSA. so they're lame
Juan Fisher
>Not only did we support Obama I thought Ron Paul was the favorite candidate here, wasn't he?
Bentley Russell
>free speech forum >get told to fuck off >actually do so either you're full of shit or communists are actually triggered faggots who can't handle banter
You're right. It was the talk of Yas Forums back in the day when they arrived and started spamming it up.
Pretty soon Yas Forums will be an official neocon board I guess. Although if Trump wins again maybe it will become more left.
Juan Miller
Conservatives are retarded. These people are so stupid it's physically painful to talk to them. Almost all of them are motivated by religion of course, but it's not like they have a deep understanding of their religion, it's more like they are following certain figures who are telling them what to think. That's how Christianity goes gay-friendly in just 20 years.
Now libertarians are not like that, they're smart. Although very autistic. Left wingers recruit plebian masses, but the intellectual sort are also not like that, usually pretty smart. Although faggoty and overemotional.
"Conservatives" are basically this mass of retards to be dominated by stronger forces. The true aggressive right wing strain exists within fascist/nationalist movements. These people should be taking the reigns and dominating the retarded conservatives. You're going to find all the wit, biting social commentary, and humor on the nationalist/fascist right. Conservatives are doe-eyed and empty headed as always
Shut the fuck up faggot. Your ideology isn't even consistent let alone universal.
If I speak to fascists, marxists or libertarians from 3 different countries, they'll all agree on the basic ideas of people who share their ideology. A conservative from America is liberal, a conservative from Britain is a royalist, a conservative from Russia will praise the USSR. This is not intelligent thinking, it's blind deference to recent history.
Julian Stewart
>Libertarianism What's a leppo?
Jacob Sanchez
>newfag doesn't know about /n/ >newfag doesn't know why Mootles created /new/ to begin with 2/10 you still tried
And /n/ was pure Libertarian before /Stormfront/ invaded. Just because some shitposters on Yas Forums made pro Obama threads doesn't mean they were commonplace on /n/
Isaiah Moore
It was never any good. You're just an idiot who is easily manipulated by marketing.and now your interests have vapidly flitted onto something else
Charles Price
I'm sorry, was conservatism supposed to be a fashion statement? Last I checked conservatism was a political ideology. But leave it to a fucking retard pretending to be a conservative (yes, I know you're a lefty faggot). You lefties wear political statements as an accessory.
