'OH SAYYY CANN YOU SEEEEEEEE!'

Debt/wage slavery. The Federal Reserve fuckers set it up that way.

Only for cityfags and desolate villagefags. Life was comfy for those who could farm well.

Medieval peasants didn't have Yas Forums, weed, hentai, manga, anime or video games. Fuck off, nigger.

>clown world
so was the 15th, 16th,...

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With all the holidays on the Catholic calendar, a third of the days of the year were holidays.

Farming has never been comfy. They had to do everything by hand and they had to battle the elements without any of the technology they have now.

A peasant was a "free" person, not to be confused with serfs who were indentured to the lands on which they lived. Peasants were free to roam freely, poor as fuck, and panhandle/beg/labor for their meager existence. They, by law, were not allowed to own lands, nor fruit bearing trees, or any other means of self preservation beyond their humble skills at laborious tasks. They needed to ask the Lord of the lands to marry. By law they were not able to marry below or far above their caste/ranking in society. In contrast, anyone from anywhere can come to America and become a millionaire. The only thing preventing anyone from this are their own intellectual shortcomings. We work a lot because we want a lot. We're too busy inventing/molding the world as we want it to take vacations 6 times a year. What is there to see that we haven't perverted with our own image?

>be a peasant
>be a farmer
>nothing to grow during winter
>do just about nothing for 3-4 months
I mean I don't argue that amerimulattos are slaves but this is a shit comparison

Hard work is based.

GET BACK TO WORK SLAVE

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Not really. Peasants generally only worked like 6 months, 3 months they couldn't do a lot cause of the winter and and 3 months off because they had provided their Lord with everything they owed and there were a LOT of feast days back then too. Even when they were working, it wasn't the back-breaking labour we imagine. There were periods of hard work like the harvest but other than that it was pretty chill, they just needed to tend to the crops/ animals. Then they could have huge arse meals throughout the day with all their top quality home-grown ingredients, with their kitchens (and bedrooms for the kinky sorts) being on the same property as their farmland.

Peasants were often better nourished than nobles. The decline in 'commoner' health came with the industrial revolution, which is also where the long hours came in; and those people were working themselves to the bone without access to good quality food, and all the good imports to the city would be taken by the wealthy leaving the urban poor to waste away with little or bad quality food.

Feudal farming peasants legit had a life that is better than 90% of those alive today. You can take your fucking "you can be anything career" and stuff it, because 90%+ of people work shitty dead end jobs, and many of them had to go through depression and anxiety with rejection and terrible interviews and stints of feeling worthless while they were unable to even get a job. I can guarantee nearly every single person I know would have far preferred to have had a 'family profession' that they would grow up learning, they would have loved to be around family all day, and the very frequent feast days where they'd meet up with the cutie farmer's daughters from the region would have been amazing.

Modernity is shit and you have all been deceived. Life might be a bit better now than it was when everyone was coughing their guts up in factories during the early days of the industrial revolution; but before that it was great.

I'll have you know I've fucked around at every job I've ever had

Not only this but they worked lands they didn't own. The Lord of the land owned everything, and if need be, could strip a serf or peasant of their possessions to benefit his manor. A peasant or serf owned nothing, as it all belonged to Lords. Even knights were bestowed with this power, they too could strip any/all serfs or peasants of their belongings if they "needed" them. Serfs and peasants were also taxed to death.

>Working a few hours of manual labour for less than half the year is hard in any way.
>Having some blankets and warm clothing for the winter and a roof for the rain is hard.
You're looking down on them too much. Sure they didn't have central heating but that has never been required for survival. Burning wood was a very popular method of keeping the house cozy especially back in medieval times when most of Northern Europe was covered in trees.
>Peasants were taxed to death.
>With 'super high evil noble taxes' being at 15% of grain income alone.
>Meanwhile in Europe 50% is completely normal.

So in exchange for working a few more hours a day, we get to live with electric lighting, motorized transportation, various qualities of food, digital entertainment, more gadgets than we know what to do with, clean sheets, nice clothes and pretty much everything the peasants wished they had? I'm okay with that.

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And now compare living standards.
Everything we have now from running water to the internet are incalculably better than any of the shit they had in the medieval ages.

If you want to go back to medieval conditions then go fuck right off into the woods and start digging up wells and get planting bucko.

WHAT, SO YOU WANT COMMUNISM THEN!?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Seasonal work I'd assume. They didn't have giant heating systems.
Also, I'm pretty sure my life is better than dying in my 30s and famine.

Chad medieval peasant lived a life you can't even imagine, its like comparing you to Bloomborf lmao

>Sitting at a desk and doing excel sheets is the same as plowing a field all day

This thread is spammed for over 1 year. It's disinfo shilling. Employment was mandatory in feuds, there was no vacancy, not-working was illegal, this dumb comparison is using a law of bare-minimum of forced labor vs the bare minimum of vacations today; there is no bare minimum of forced labor today.

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>If you want to go back to medieval conditions then go fuck right off into the woods and start digging up wells and get planting bucko.
I legit would if I could have family and community with me. As much as I love the internet, its a fucking waste of life and never makes me anywhere near as fulfilled or happy as actually spending time with others or doing manual labour does. There is no satisfaction in this life, there is no sense of community, no one would just help their fellow man build a shelter or something like they did in the past. Even families charge their family members for shit. Urban, technological lifestyles have robbed us of a lot of what made us human.

You think your central heating keeps you warm, but really it makes you feel cold within - when you compare it to having to snuggle with your lady or become a close bed-friend with another man (it might sound gay to you now, but that's only because you cannot even conceive of such a friendship and the stories you could share with someone you trusted that much). Your lights do nothing but ruin the beauty of the starlit sky. Sure, there are some advantages to this modern life; but I feel the bad far outweighs the good.

>I can guarantee nearly every single person I know would have far preferred to have had a 'family profession' that they would grow up learning, they would have loved to be around family all day, and the very frequent feast days where they'd meet up with the cutie farmer's daughters from the region would have been amazing.
>Modernity is shit and you have all been deceived.
I didn't need this feel.

I really enjoy working, but I just don’t get this specifically. The current American system is objectively trash that is ran by people who hate Americans. How can anyone justify working hard for it? I do as little as possibly needed because I don’t want to contribute, I just have to to survive.

Nominate me for president and I will legislate higher overtime pay, make mandatory ot illegal and pressure industry to double vacation time.

The average American worker bathes 40x more often that a medevil peasant.

This, but try explaining this to a normie and you get “but we have iPhones now!” I seriously hate even most of the people I know. This plague will wash everything away

/thread.

You own things, peasants and serfs didn't. You're allowed to plant an apple tree, serfs and peasants were killed for this. A Lord could and did strip serfs and peasants of their every possession, just because they could and it amused them. 70% of England were peasants, 20% serfs who were indentured to the lands they lived. Nobility was rare, the amount of lands they owned was obscene. The average estate being 1000 hectares or more.

Funny you should bring up English peasants because most of them were extremely free due to living far away from the manor of the noble who ruled them. Sure if you live on the noble's doorstep then there were rules governing you but for most English peasants it was the animal hunting ban that affected their lives the most.

1/3rd the country is unemployed with a permanent vacation.

Yeah, but if they worked hard in school they could get into college, and then they could be part of the ruling class... RIGHT?

>Nobility was rare, the amount of lands they owned was obscene
Which meant that in the vast, vast, vast majority of cases the peasantry had zero interaction with the Lord. I'm sure there was a petty and evil Lord or two back then, just as I'm sure there might have been one or two Anglo-Saxon Puritan settlers in the US with a secret fetish for sadism who whipped their niggers; but the vast, vast, vast majority of people neither had the reason, the opportunity or the desire to do anything that evil. The vast majority of peasants would have lived a far happier and ironically less subservient life than people do today.

Everywhere you go you have to follow rules, you need to bow to authority. To cross roads, to drive, to have an alcoholic beverage, to buy spoons (if you're a Bong like me). Almost every action we take has some authority's opinion weighing down on us and instructing us to 'do it that way' or else face forceful retribution.

Peasants had essentially none of that. Sure, they owed a small amount of their crops/animals to the Lord; but do you think the Lord personally collected and inspected every farm and their produce? They would have had absolutely no presence in the every day life of a peasant, and maybe a couple percent would actually have to talk to the Lord once in their lifetimes. Maybe that 0.0001% got fucked over by some arsehole; but the same happens today to a small percentage of people who have police raid their homes, shoot their dogs and generally ruin their lives for no other reason than that they can get away with it.

>washing beneficial bacteria and smells away from your body with fluoride water and petroleum-based chemicals

Bluepilled. How many animals do you see bathing with soap under running water? You are a sick slave.

They had obedient teenage wives, kids, housing, religion, community, purpose, culture etc...

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Americunt workers love to serve the super-rich, as long as they can afford a 55" HDTV to watch the NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR and all the college games like March Madness.

The rest of our money, just go ahead and take so billionaires pay less.

Didn't most people only live till like 40?

free
I said this already, they were free to be poor anywhere.

right, average poor citizens who still had to pay duty to whatever Lord lived around them, plus their royal taxes. Peasants COULD simply disappear and leave their entire country, serfs couldn't.

bacteria still stayed in food in those days so i dont think they had that great meals mate

>I suffer in the Middle Age

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and now the jews banned 90% of them to the point people work all the way up to christmas day and go to work the next day. Meanwhile I still remember my parents getting a week off around christmas.

So far in my life, my parents' being around on holidays slowly disappeared as i got older because of Jew getting upset his shekels were going down around that time.

If their Lord allowed it, yes. Peasants and serfs needed permission to marry, and couldn't marry below or far above their own caste.

>By law they were not able to marry below or far above their caste/ranking in society.
Imagine having a peasant gf. No make up, naturally slender from eating modest amounts of non-processed food, good genes as she would have not survived infancy otherwise back then, no stupid modern female career but just a humble turnip picker or something.

With the exception of places like Russia serfs were just a form of slave. Naturally they have less freedom than anyone else. It's like how corporate workers sell their soul to their companies especially in places like Japan and China where it is difficult to just fuck off and leave when you feel like it and endless overtime is the norm.

No. A lot of people died shortly after birth or the woman during giving birth. If you made it beyond a year or two as a male you were likely to live to 60+ and often times to comparable ages to people today.

>right, average poor citizens who still had to pay duty to whatever Lord lived around them, plus their royal taxes. Peasants COULD simply disappear and leave their entire country, serfs couldn't.
Taxes that were far less than what are owed today, which required far less work to acquire, and which interfered with their lives in a far smaller way.

>bacteria still stayed in food in those days so i dont think they had that great meals mate
Do you not have wild fruit in Belgium? Have you never gone for a stroll through the woods and eaten wild blackberries, elderberries or crabapples? They are delicious. ...And they would have cooked meat and vegetables to get rid of any dangers.

Limited food preservation meant you spent time each day working for your food, don't kid yourself. Four to seven mouths meant that your meals were relatively modest. Idle time was time you spent risking death.

They needed permission from their priest. Same as Christians do today. Permission was only denied in cases like one is a nigger, one already being married or both being men.

Russia wasn't part of Europe in those times. It didn't even exist. Viking Rus established Kiev around those times, but they were Scandinavians yet to be enriched by the Mongol hordes. They believed in chattle slavery, yes.

why are the same images and topics posted on here week after week, psyop, is there a command center?

>Taxes that were far less than what are owed today, which required far less work to acquire, and which interfered with their lives in a far smaller way.

Unless their local Lord needed a fancy new boat or adornments, in which case he would strip them of any/all wealth, which was extremely common.

For years now I've said that modern wage slavery is worse than medieval serfdom.

No, the Lord of the lands needed to give them permission.

>Implying I don't want to dedicate my life serving my good natured Lord and his virtuous Lady

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>In the Middle Ages, the average life span of males born in landholding families in England was 31.3 years and the biggest danger was surviving childhood. Once children reached the age of 10, their life expectancy was 32.2 years, and for those who survived to 25, the remaining life expectancy was 23.3 years.

academic.oup.com/ije/article/34/6/1435/707557

pull yourself up by your bootstraps. when i was young i paid my way through college as a sweeper at mcdonalds. I met my wife there and we've been married ever since. This generation of kids is so fucking whiny. just shut the FUCK up.

Literally what is your point? That you are allowed to live longer, so you can slave longer for your owners? And when your body is destroyed from being a slave all your life; you will indebt your children from the countless medical costs you will have. What an American dream!

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Is subservience built into the European genome?

Citation needed.
>I require a blowjob peasant scum. Suck the dough off my cock

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>average
A fair number of them lived to old age, it's just there a a fuck ton of kids who died young that screw with the numbers.

Ok boomer, remind me to coof at your face once I get the Coronavirus

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>Feudal farming peasants legit had a life that is better than 90% of those alive today.
The class structure of older societies was pretty consistent from Roman to English with some changes in names and rights. But in general IF you had a farm under a lord you were in the top tier of peasants.

Slaves, indentured servants, serfs, or freemen were about a 1/3 to 1/2 of the peasant class over time. These people would live in cramped quarters in cities, village centers, or boarding houses. They would day labor, work in mines, run treadmills, ect. In general they made just enough to live and once they got too old to work relied on children to feed them.

The citizens, shop keeps, farmers, traders, ect were the top end of the peasant class. If you actually got a farm, not a tiny garden plot, you were probably one of the richest peasants and employed a dozen or more freemen. You often had this farm under a lord or patron that provided protection for a set fee or percent of your yield, but you could scale up as much as possible leaving a lot of room for profit.

Do you honestly believe that the Lord has to sign off a paper for every random peasant marriage? In a time when nobles were powerful warriors rather than bureaucrats?
Where are you even getting your knowledge from? It's barely coherent nevermind correct.

yeah, nice working vpn, nigger

m.medieval-life-and-times.info/medieval-life/medieval-lords.htm

They also owned all young boys and men when it came time to war, you didn't have a choice, your Lord made you fight his fights.

>talking to the mutt about history

itt: amerimutts and co prove how little they know about European history.

What fucking Jew wrote this?

>slaves

Nope because, sadly, it's completely voluntary.

So fuckin stupid.
Are you killing, plucking, gutting and fileting you chicken for dinner? Hauling your piss bucket down to the tannery? Cutting wood and building a fire to cook?
There was absolutely no "free time" for medieval peasants.

What the fuck did they even do? Plant a few seeds and then hang out and get shit faced until it grew. Then you harvested it and stored it.....and then you were off until next growing season. Right?

I’ve never farmed and lived in NYC my whole life so I could be totally wrong but I assume farming is like 95% downtime.

Yes. Recognized marriages. Hidden marriages were punished. Either with taxes or duties, or corporal punishment. Serfs and peasants could be imprisoned by their Lord for an indefinite amount of time without a trial as well

>implying you had to cut wood every single day to make a fire

come on now idiot

Your history is that your WERE Viking Rus, then got Mongol'd hard at can. Sad truth.

Your history is that your WERE Viking Rus, then got Mongol'd hard af senpai. Sad truth.