Why did Shikamaru forfeit?

No, the tournament just a formality. Their actual judges hide in the audience that actually judge if the participant is qualify to become Chunin. You can win but that doesn't guarantee that you can became of chuuni.

The tournament is a huge source of revenue, but the winners don't necessarily become chunins. When it comes to promotions they're looking for people that actually show tactics and leadership skills. Not only did Shikamaru use tactics during his fight, he made the wise decision to fallback/forfeit when he knew he couldn't win.

>Naruto passes the written test for having the guts to never give up despite being up against impossible odds
>Shikamaru is promoted to chunnin for having the good judgement to give up while up against impossible odds

>Naruto defeats one of the top students by using a mix of pure will and quick thinking, utilizing many strategies during the fight
>doesnt get promoted

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Nothing naruto did proved he was worthy of having lives at his command

Naruto only won because of plot armor and unlimited hax fox chakra. Sasuke did earn his promotion even though all he did was follow his master's strategy.

>watches Naruto
>expects thematic consistence
mfw

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>Neji demonstrates a fundamental understanding of the world and very reality they live in
>Doesn't get promoted
No justice. Neji was right.

To win he'd have to throw a kunai at her or something and that would go against his 200 IQ master plan to make her his wife

He lost because he cockily pulled his guard down too soon, he didn't deserve promotion then, he learned from that and became a Jonin in 2 years

Yet he was never acknowledged as the great philosopher of destiny he truly was. Unbased.

He wanted the pussy bro

Nice

>he learned from that and became a Jonin in 2 years
What was the point of that? He never did anything with that rank and everyone treated Shikamaru as his superior.

>his only mission in Shippuden was as part of Team Guy

F

Why is Shikamaru even given of so much importance?

Sasuke did not become chunin though

>for having the good judgement to give up while up against impossible odds
But he was literally about to win.

Unironically author favoritism

How? He was out of chakra.

>Naruto talks even the most psychotic villains out of being assholes instead of killing them
>Shikamaru just kills the first bad guy he comes across without even trying to talk things through

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He could have just grabbed a knife and stabbed her to death

Well, Shikamaru was a true shinobi. Nardo was fucking gay.

Shikamaru was such a blatant Kishi's self-insert it was hilarious

Shikamaru and Sasuke arcs in Shippuden were way better than Naruto's because there was no bad attempt at delivering a "message" in it

What an intellectual response

You don't see how that isn't inconsistent in the least? Guts isn't a good trait for a ninja.

The problem is that Sasuke's revenge plot falls into series' main message. Naruto's revenge plot during Pain fell into that too. Shikamaru's just...didn't, for some reason.
I just don't get why are Sasuke and Naruto receiving consequences/have to learn and develop, but Shikamaru does not

Tell that to Jiraiya

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Jiraiya wasn't really much of a shinobi.

Look ninjas ARE supposed to kill. You can’t really blame Shikamaru for not trying to talknojutsu Hidan.

Naruto was the only person who refused to kill his enemies. Even a pacifist ninja like Hashirama grew a pair and killed Madara when he betrayed the leaf.

Jiraiya himself was far from a perfect shinobi. He barely even associates himself with the Leaf

Who are the guys in that pic?

The rest of the series claims otherwise.

He was the only one who could do everything: sneaking, spying, gathering informations, torturing people, and beating up people by spitting fireballs at them.

But...didn't this end up as the main message? Even the last phrase of 699, with Sasuke's "not giving up, enduring bluh bluh... perhaps, this is what makes us shinobi"

>having the good judgement to give up while up against impossible odds
No retard, it was because he successfully bluffed his way in making it look like he was winning even thought he was 2 seconds away from losing.

What? Jiraiya was a very good shinobi.

It's not though. Naruto is a horrible ninja, luckily they didn't require a ninja to save the world but rather a superman with God powers.

When you're having dbz fights in the sky your knowledge of ninja tactical theory, spying, and assassination falls away to whoever can shoot the biggest ki blast.

She told him if he forfeited, she'd take his 10-year-old virginity. Don't be a queero, OP.

user is not talking about his skills - he is a Sannin for a reason. It's about a shinobi "mentality". Jiraiya had it too, but not in a perfect form

The ninja shit never mattered. Might makes right, always, and the mighty claim that guts is important, which means it's true.

What did Jiraiya miss then? He knew when to take action and when not to, he knew how to plot and stuff, and if it's about not giving up he had it just as much as Naruto.